Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[Katya]

Today I got 2 emails from vendors, notifying people about the deeming. (Mountain Oak and mad vapes) It was the email from White cloud last week that first alerted me to the deeming release.
Any other vendors using their mailing lists to spread the word?

Several. Today I got an email from Nude Nicotine. They have Armor 3 nic with ascorbic acid (vitamin C) to prevent oxidation.

Nude Armor V3 - Nude Nicotine

@Kurt and other chemists in the room. What do you think about ascorbic acid in you nic? Good, bad, overkill?

 

[Katya]

Seriously, pure nicotine(1000mg/ml) is no joke. That site doesn't even have any warnings on it...

And I believe that, per ECF rules, we're not even allowed to discuss it here. The stuff is deadly and can only be used in specially equipped labs--never at home.

 

[WharfRat1976]

The FDA does everything in the best interest of public health.

Everything the FDA does is completely opposite of what's in the best interest of public health.

 

[The Ocelot]

Never mind. I removed the link. The more of it I listened to, the angrier I got.

 

[The Ocelot]

I dare you post that in the other place

Nawww. I want us all to be on the same side.

 

[Lessifer]

And I believe that, per ECF rules, we're not even allow to discuss it here. The stuff is deadly and can only be used in specially equipped labs--never at home.

I thought there might be a rule or something. I remember when I looked about a year or more ago, I couldn't even find a place that sold it, but i guess that's changed.

 

[The Ocelot]

FDA approved for non vaping applications I expect.

I expect the ejuice references will soon be off of that nic site.

Replacing it with a large danger warning would be a move in the right direction.

 

[bigdancehawk]

Not well.

The EU’s new rules for vapers: this is Brussels at its most petty and pointless | Spectator Health

"The failure of two legal challenges against the EU’s new Tobacco Products Directive means that a swarm of new regulations will come into effect from May 20. The new laws have all the hallmarks of the kind of unaccountable decision-making and bureaucratic excess that the European Commission has made its own."

We seem to be in a competition with the EU in imposing control over every possible aspect of our existence.

 

[Katya]

We seem to be in a competition with the EU in imposing control over every possible aspect of our existence.

Pissing contests between California, the EU and the FDA.

 

[gt_1955]

Don't worry, Australia will join you soon

 

[Katya]

Don't worry, Australia will join you soon

Thank you, love. It makes me feel so much better.

At least we're not the laughing stock of the civilized world.

 

[The Ocelot]

Thank you, love. It makes me feel so much better.

At least we're not the laughing stock of the civilized world.

Are you sure?

ETA: U.S. Becomes Laughingstock of World for Something Other Than Gun Laws - The New Yorker

 

[Katya]

I thought there might be a rule or something. I remember when I looked about a year or more ago, I couldn't even find a place that sold it, but i guess that's changed.

There's a rule alright. I've seen posts vanishing from the forum. The stuff is lethal and can't be handled without an industrial vent and a hazmat suit.

@Icemanxxxv please do not buy any nicotine base stronger than 10% (100mg/ml) and please make sure it's USP grade.

 

[Katya]

Are you sure?

Nope. But it makes me feel better, so please, kitty, don't rain on my itty bitty very temporary parade.

 

[Katya]

Nawww. I want us all to be on the same side.

So do I. Really. We are all on the same side and the sooner we realize it the better off we're going to be. I'm so sick and tired of this junior high crap.

End rant.

 

[bigdancehawk]

Don't worry, Australia will join you soon

I've always idealized Australia as the land of fierce anti-authoritianists--people with a low tolerance for being told what to do.

 

[nicnik]

I've always idealized Australia as the land of fierce anti-authoritianists--people with a low tolerance for being told what to do.

Now there gonna ship all vapers to a far away island.

 

[gt_1955]

I've always idealized Australia as the land of fierce anti-authoritianists--people with a low tolerance for being told what to do.

We do have a low tolerance for being told what to do, doesn't change the laws and regulations though How else would you explain the number of vapers in Oz given that possession of liquid nicotine is illegal in all states?

How do you tell if a politician is lying? His lips are moving ...
Don't vote for politicians, it only encourages them.

 

[gt_1955]

In my inbox this morning: Madvapes Blog - MADVAPES RESPONSE TO FDA’s “CIGARETTE PROTECTION ACT” | Madvapes

 

[Katya]

In my inbox this morning: Madvapes Blog - MADVAPES RESPONSE TO FDA’s “CIGARETTE PROTECTION ACT” | Madvapes

Madvapes is good people.