If I hear how this is a free country one more time, I'll puke.
That's about the best response I could ask forI have to think about that tbh. I think of it as a decision children are not mature enough to make on their own. I lean toward it being something that parents should buy for their kids, but i will think about your argument.![]()
Right...for *other purposes*, just don't go sell them at your B&MBut I do not see the availability of flavorings for other purposes being restricted because of it.
Why is an injunction a certainty? I think you have to ask for it and Nicopure to my knowledge hasn't. And a trial my not happen for years.A lawsuit was filed by Nicopure. The injunction would follow. Whether the lawsuit provides remedy is something else but that an injunction will be issued is certain.
Commander in Chief to StartLike I said in another Thread, Mr. Zeller isn't on my Christmas Card list. But directing All Anger/Blame on Mr. Zeller is like cutting the leaves off a Weed in the Garden. It Doesn't do Anything. Because the Problem/Cause still remains. You have to Pull a weed out Roots and All.
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Because that's what happens while the case is decided on.Why is an injunction a certainty? I think you have to ask for it and Nicopure to my knowledge hasn't. And a trial my not happen for years.
Listen here starting at about 27:40. While Cynthia (Executive Director of SFATA) is no attorney, she explains it well.
May I suggest that you restrain the urge...walls have ears. You don't wanna be labeled a terrorist. Your avi already qualifies you.I'll tell you, common folk like me have stood by the last few years and signed petitions and such and supported organizations and that has ended in the worst case results. Now, you'll be seeing us taking action in ways that may not be liked, but it's all we have left. See ya on the streets...
I'm not arguing, because I don't know the law, but that's not what the lawyer from SeviaUSA said. He said an injunction is only granted if the judge believes there is a good chance of the suit winning, and not being granted the injunction could be detrimental to the case, as it shows the judge does not believe the case truly has merit. Or at least that's what I got out of it.If the case is accepted for consideration
an injunction is automatic until the case is resolved either way.
Yea, like I said.If the case is accepted for consideration.I'm not arguing, because I don't know the law, but that's not what the lawyer from SeviaUSA said. He said an injunction is only granted if the judge believes there is a good chance of the suit winning, and not being granted the injunction could be detrimental to the case, as it shows the judge does not believe the case truly has merit. Or at least that's what I got out of it.
How staggering? If you don't have millions to gamble, don't even think of trying. You'd need to start with a law firm specializing in this sort of regulatory law. Then you'd need chemists, biochemists, epidemiologists, physicians, statisticians, a host of researchers in a variety of specialized fields, and God knows what else.
IMO this lie is reaffirmed just as much by vapers as it is by anyone else.
"Of course we support age restrictions, anyone in their right mind would."
Good for you. Keep saying that when they cart you off to prison
or the looney bin for being a vape terrorist.
BTW, any thoughts on a march on DC..you can bring your weapons.
Ouch - strong position alert!
Why do think this is problematic?
I'd be extremely interested in knowing how you reached that conclusion.A preliminary injunction barring enforcement of the Deeming regulations will almost certainly be granted.
In a (peaceful..) march on DC I'd be right there with y'all.I will no doubt be joining him.![]()
I just want to clarify something. I don't expect any of the groups to actively fight against age restrictions, people aren't ready for that, the guilt by association to smoking is too strong. I just wish we would stop promoting age restrictions like they actually make sense.
From Senator Johnson's letter to the FDA:
That insufficient data pertains to ALL of the regulations.
- How is the FDA’s regulation of e-cigarettes not a premature restriction on an industry given the FDA’s admission that it does not have “sufficient data” about e-cigarettes to determine the effects on the public’s health?
scroll up.I'd be extremely interested in knowing how you reached that conclusion.
You mean a "master file?"I know it would be a bit more extensive but it seems that all the reports needed could be put into a 'form letter' like we get from Congressmen. :- ) Made available to vendors. It would take a coordinated effort - probably the biggest hurdle. But stuff like Bill G's post on smoking decreasing as ecigs increase would be part of the packet. Burnstyn's 'in the mist' study that tells how all the ANTZ studies are bogus would be included.
yes, tomorrow: "Please provide this material as soon as possible but no later than 5:00 p.m. on May 31, 2016."Reminds me :
Wasn't there a deadline mentioned in the Senator's letter to the FDA ?
Commander in Chief to Start, but I have no problem taking up my sword against any of them. Where do I sign on?
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Sorry, but of all these people *I* feel the one with the most knowledge and the highest threat to Vaping is - Mitch Zeller