Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[r055co]

This is the thing.

If you can't buy it online, and you can't pay for it electronically, that is going to go a long way towards a defacto ban.

Yep, it's not like we haven't seen this coming for some time now. As I've said a number of times, those who think they have two more years have a very rude awakening coming. I've prepped and have well over a couple of lifetimes worth of supplies.

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[Sugar_and_Spice]

Here is the answer. We need to spend more time lobbying the states. This video is well worth a listen...it reminds us all(or educates the ones who don't know)of what this day stands for.
Happy fourth of July
Nullification: The Rightful Remedy (Full Video, 2012)

 

[jwbnyc]

When NY, where I live, started taxing cigarettes even more usuriously than was already the case, people started buying online to get around it. The states answer was to ban online sales, of course, to make sure people paid their obscene tariffs.

They wll do the same thing to ecigarettes. And the credit card companies will aid and abet.

Technically, all they have to do here is enforce the current laws to eliminate vaping, given the deeming, as we know it tomorrow.

I'm about as ready as I'm going to be at this point, have been since the deeming came down. There's always more one can do, but I'm good for Ten Years and that's that.

Anybody sitting on the fence better jump off real soon now.

 

[markfm]

The Mid-2010 NY tax increase is when I switched to vaping

 

[Buckeyevapen]

The book 1984 keeps screaming through my head.

2+2=5.

Sigh, happy life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness day folks.

 

[jwbnyc]

The Mid-2010 NY tax increase is when I switched to vaping

Pretty much the same here.

Had my first ecig in 2010. Took Two Years to make the switch completely.

 

[kas122461]

Its starting:



This was in relation to coils......

Here we go again with PayPal

I personally do not like paying with Paypal I never have, the only time I have used it is with a company like BYLEO, where it is the only way I can complete a transaction. When I do use them it has just been for the credit card option to pay now. They have never had my bank info, and I really don't want to give it to them. Now if they stop that, and the credit card transactions, then there is nothing I can do.

KAS

 

[satchvai]

Thank goodness for Bitcoin! Fortunately PayPal has been working during my stock up period, of which I am about done. I won't have to spend another penny on vaping for some time.

 

[phephner]

Its starting:



This was in relation to coils......

Here we go again with PayPal

In the four years I've been in the community it has been common knowledge that Paypal would shut you down for anything e-cig related if and when they figured out what you were doing. Paypal and/or eBay have never been "OK" with e-cig related items. This guy just finally got caught.

 

[satchvai]

“I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government.”
― Thomas Jefferson, Letters of Thomas Jefferson

Happy 4th of July

 

[crxess]

Its starting:



This was in relation to coils......

Here we go again with PayPal

Yawns and laughs. PayPal/Ebay - have to know the course to run it.
Pre-wind coils | eBay



I have never had an issue Listing or Buying. Just Follow the Rules(or evade well)

So, I spent the Day Correcting people on Twitter that cannot tell Veterans Day from 4th of July.(Thanks OBAMA<<<yes, h is clueless like them)
July 4th We Celebrate our Independence from a Corrupt Government(king) and the Freedom it Brought(now dwindling)
Posted Several Links to A Billion Lives Trailer along the way

Happy used to be Free Day Everyone!

 

[phephner]

Yawns and laughs. PayPal/Ebay - have to know the course to run it.
Pre-wind coils | eBay



I have never had an issue Listing or Buying. Just Follow the Rules(or evade well)

Perfect summary!

 

[m1ke]

View attachment 572583 This is being painted over because of US!!!! keep fighting and do not give up.

It seems that if you call the number on the billboard you get the complete runaround, they don't know about the billboard, they can't figure out why you're calling, and they can't refer you to anybody who knows anything about the billboard or who can "help" you to quit vaping. Nice way to spend public funds in Detroit, whose government is, it would appear, awash with money.

Whatta buncha bull....

 

[Kenna]

To be honest, it's doubtful that the film had anything to do with this decision.

Party pooper!

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[Kenna]

If we, as a Society really want Tobacco Related Health issues to subside, Everyone needs to be accountable.
No more Tobacco Lobbiest - not needed, their rights are set in stone.
No more underhanded Pharma Lobbyiest.
No more Pharma Funding Charities to Lobby.
No more Senators in the Pockets of any Health related lobbyist.
No more FDA interference in unproven Health Risk products. - No proof(real Proof) No Game!
No more Restricting Lower Health Risk Advertising .

Put Tobacco Taxes (100%) to Tobacco related health expenses, Harm reduction planning and Nowhere Else. Half life the programs and set End Life for Tobacco Tax funding. Game over!

As long as Government uses Tobacco Taxes for General Funding:
1) They are Dependent on Tobacco Sales
2) They are Lying Crooks

Dal

The entire deeming is based "Maybe, could be, it's possible, we don't know but". Fear mongering at it's worst without an ounce of actual science to prove a bit of it. Let's ask them if the same reasoning applies to rumors that Elvis is still alive. Or UFO's. Or (gasp) global warming.

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[r055co]

The entire deeming is based "Maybe, could be, it's possible, we don't know but". Fear mongering at it's worst without an ounce of actual science to prove a bit of it. Let's ask them if the same reasoning applies to rumors that Elvis is still alive. Or UFO's. Or (gasp) global warming.

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It's all about the money, nothing else period.

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[crxess]

The entire deeming is based "Maybe, could be, it's possible, we don't know but". Fear mongering at it's worst without an ounce of actual science to prove a bit of it. Let's ask them if the same reasoning applies to rumors that Elvis is still alive. Or UFO's. Or (gasp) global warming.

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Watching unfolding events, I could show where else it applies...........but I won't Derail the thread.

Agreed, It is Fear Based through finger pointing and accusation, junk science and outright lies..........hmmm......where have I heard that recently.

 

[WillyZee]

The entire deeming is based "Maybe, could be, it's possible, we don't know but". Fear mongering at it's worst without an ounce of actual science to prove a bit of it. Let's ask them if the same reasoning applies to rumors that Elvis is still alive. Or UFO's. Or (gasp) global warming.

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Elvis was abducted by Aliens ... everybody knows that


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[GunMonkeyINTL]

How, exactly, is it "off-topic" to point out that the administartion is documented as "discussing" the proscecution of climate-change-deniers, when the topic at hand on this page and the last is forced-acceptance of agenda-driven junk-science and lies?

Oh. Maybe the mod sees it as the truth and good-science. Maybe the anti-vaping science is valid, too.

But there's no chance they'd try to do to us "deniers" as they'd like to do to the global-cooling, I mean global-warming, I mean climate-change deniers.

 

[retired1]

If you want to go off topic and rant about non-vape related subjects, take it to the Outside forum. Otherwise, it doesn't belong in the general forums on ECF.

We're going to start issuing thread bans for those that just can't keep things on topic.