Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Besides, the salary is not all that great for the position, certainly compared to say CEOs who run large companies. Now, the book deals and lecture circuit afterwards are pretty good.
I guess the free room and board is a nice touch too. I wonder if that's considered non-monetary remuneration and subject to taxes. I bet the current office holder has a plan to get around that potential tax liability if applicable.
I guess the free room and board is a nice touch too. I wonder if that's considered non-monetary remuneration and subject to taxes. I bet the current office holder has a plan to get around that potential tax liability if applicable.
I'm trying to find another section of the economy where its members are able to vote themselves a pay raise, or their own medical benefits, or their own pension benefits, or their own exclusion from rules which apply to the rest of us. HaHa. No luck finding it.
Do they read the bills they pass? Since all the major bills are hundreds if not thousands of pages long, are you kidding me. Pelosi herself admitted that we'd know what was included in the (I think it was, but may have forgotten) medical care bill when they passed it. What a joke it's all become. And not a funny one either. Would I seek out such a "job"? No, or I would have already. Would I accept it, if my peers nominated me? Sure. Hard? Yep. But, I will not betray my family (small nor large, if you know what I mean) to pad my bank account. Make a fair profit is fine. Rip off everyone else? Nope.
Do they read the bills they pass? Since all the major bills are hundreds if not thousands of pages long, are you kidding me. Pelosi herself admitted that we'd know what was included in the (I think it was, but may have forgotten) medical care bill when they passed it. What a joke it's all become. And not a funny one either. Would I seek out such a "job"? No, or I would have already. Would I accept it, if my peers nominated me? Sure. Hard? Yep. But, I will not betray my family (small nor large, if you know what I mean) to pad my bank account. Make a fair profit is fine. Rip off everyone else? Nope.
Serve 1 term... ONE... pensioned for life. Work 63 years, get your pension destroyed by taxes and devaluations, etc. Salary is crap, but the perks are killer.
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Speaking of all this:
(Off topic)
"WHAT THE HEALTH?"
Documentary on Netflix.
Pretty much the "Billion Lives" of the food/diet industry.
Illustrates how large food corporations influence the leading health associations, and how the government is tied to it all.
Best quote from the movie:
(Paraphrased) "The meat/dairy industry has all the money and power of Big tobacco and Big Pharma combined, with the personality of the NRA...they see what's been happening to the tobacco/alcohol industry over the past 50 years, and they don't want it to happen to them. So they throw enough money at their problems to bury them."
The meat/dairy complex has the FDA MORE on their side than tobacco/alcohol...and infinitely less public mistrust.
Imagine how much worse off we'd be in this fight for vaping, if tobacco was trusted as much as meat/dairy...
(Off topic)
"WHAT THE HEALTH?"
Documentary on Netflix.
Pretty much the "Billion Lives" of the food/diet industry.
Illustrates how large food corporations influence the leading health associations, and how the government is tied to it all.
Best quote from the movie:
(Paraphrased) "The meat/dairy industry has all the money and power of Big tobacco and Big Pharma combined, with the personality of the NRA...they see what's been happening to the tobacco/alcohol industry over the past 50 years, and they don't want it to happen to them. So they throw enough money at their problems to bury them."
The meat/dairy complex has the FDA MORE on their side than tobacco/alcohol...and infinitely less public mistrust.
Imagine how much worse off we'd be in this fight for vaping, if tobacco was trusted as much as meat/dairy...
If I could find a way to get around potential tax liability completely, I would. For those who like to pay taxes, they could file the 1040 taking no deductions and claiming no exemptions, they could feel good paying their "fair share".
That's pretty much the summary I gave in my head for the flick after I read the description a few days ago. I put the movie in my 'you know, I just might watch this' bin, but now it's been moved into the 'you know, I gotta watch this' one..
That situation is also broken and corrupt.
However, in the corporate world, shareholders do ultimately have the ability to affect the pay, benefits etc. of the executive staff and directors by a vote. I accept that, in reality vs. theory, it doesn't work out as well. But the power is there.
But, if our congressmen vote themselves a benefit either in salary or fringe benefits, how are we to affect this? Vote against the incumbents and expect the newly elected to vote to lower their own salaries or benefits. Haha.
Perhaps, WE not THEY should vote directly on their salaries and benefits.
Work an average of 133 days per year (most of us do 240), at a LOW end salary of 173k per year, with benefits I can't even dream about.
That's not counting all the speaking fees, backdoor deals, or any "private" lobbyist money.
J. Chaffetz is now implying that they should also get a $2500 "housing stipend". The whole world's gone crazy.
We've let the kids take the credit cards, AND hide the bills from us, and we wonder why we're broke. Orange jumpsuits for the lot of 'em.
I'm afraid this thread is straying way away from its topic into the realm of politics, and I'm sure we gonna get spanked soon. So, before that happens
Their pay should be the median average of the district they represent. Their healthcarr should be the same as their constituents. You wanna see someone work to improve their district? Make 'em live like they're in their district.
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Just saw this on CASAA fb feed:
FDA Grandfather Language Passes House Subcommittee - halfwheel
A measure to change the grandfather date of the U.S. Food & Drug Administration’s (FDA) deeming regulations from Feb. 15, 2007 to Aug. 8, 2016 has advanced in the House of Representatives Appropriations Agriculture Subcommittee.
That move came via voice vote, where there were no objections to advancing the FY18 Agriculture Appropriations bill, which included the language. The bill now moves to the full House Appropriations Committee, where the Cigar Association of America expects the measure to be taken up in mid-July. From there, the bill would still need to pass a vote in the full House of Representatives and have similar language pass the Senate before it would head to President Donald Trump to be signed into law.
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FDA Grandfather Language Passes House Subcommittee - halfwheel
A measure to change the grandfather date of the U.S. Food & Drug Administration’s (FDA) deeming regulations from Feb. 15, 2007 to Aug. 8, 2016 has advanced in the House of Representatives Appropriations Agriculture Subcommittee.
That move came via voice vote, where there were no objections to advancing the FY18 Agriculture Appropriations bill, which included the language. The bill now moves to the full House Appropriations Committee, where the Cigar Association of America expects the measure to be taken up in mid-July. From there, the bill would still need to pass a vote in the full House of Representatives and have similar language pass the Senate before it would head to President Donald Trump to be signed into law.
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Pretty sad that even a change to allow some vaping equipment to survive has to sneak in under the wing of the cigar lobby. Better than nothing though!
They got kicked in the shins on this too tho.
No new cigar or pipe tobacco blends...only pre 2007 stuff.
Shawn, there is nothing wrong with bringing politics into the vaping discussion. It is practically unavoidable. As long as the politics are contained within the topic of vaping and are constructive and germane. It's when people take the opportunity to tell us all about their political ideology and start trashing those they oppose. Occasionally there are times when some folks refuse to abide by this simple request despite the moderator's pleas. We deserve to be spanked when we cannot cooperate.I'm afraid this thread is straying way away from its topic into the realm of politics, and I'm sure we gonna get spanked soon. So, before that happens
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