Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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One news tidbit is Philip Morris got voted down by the expert panel of the FDA for approval of their iqos system as a modified risk tobacco product. Those votes are not binding on any final decision by the FDA, things have been approved without expert panel endorsement, but the panels recommendations carries a lot of weight.
 

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Good advice, deeming or not. I think it's because the deadline has been pushed out... But who KNOWS. The FDA is not exactly a transparent organization and I am starting to think they are being extremely non-definitional on purpose, sometimes. I guess time will tell....

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I think it's quiet because the big deadline for PMTAs has been pushed back, and the FDA seems to have no enthusiasm at all for enforcement of those portions of the regs that are already in effect. I get the sense that someone fairly high up in management (i.e. appointed by the current administration) quietly said, "Hands off!"
 

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I think it's quiet because the big deadline for PMTAs has been pushed back, and the FDA seems to have no enthusiasm at all for enforcement of those portions of the regs that are already in effect. I get the sense that someone fairly high up in management (i.e. appointed by the current administration) quietly said, "Hands off!"
I disagree due to the current attorney general that is in the administration.
 

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I disagree due to the current attorney general that is in the administration.
You can disagree all you want, but you'd be wrong, because the FDA is not part of the Department of Justice and thus the Attorney General has no influence over them. :)
 

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Is this the quiet before a bunch of crazy? Or is it quiet because one of the major deadlines was pushed to 2020?

Of course I'm proofing myself by learning how to build.

Keep calm
Keep vaping.

I think a lot of this is like buying Christmas Presents.

When it is December 20th, and you Haven't done any shopping, a sense of Urgency and Panic can set in. But when it is February 16th, well, it Isn't something most people think about all that much.
 

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I'm with Rossum on this.
What Role/Influence is the current AG playing in all this e-Cigarette-wise?
Depends exactly what active ingredients you're putting in your vape. If it's just nicotine, the answer is: None. :D
 

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You can disagree all you want, but you'd be wrong, because the FDA is not part of the Department of Justice and thus the Attorney General has no influence over them. :)
Well he is already in opposition of medical marijuana. I'm just judging him on his own record. He has no business interfering with states rights.
 

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Well he is already in opposition of medical .......... I'm just judging him on his own record. He has no business interfering with states rights.

If you are Bored and have some Free Time on your hands, you might do some Recreational Read regarding Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution. Interesting stuff.

Just me. But I would Rather have the AG/Justice Department enforce All Federal Laws. Than have Him/Her pick n' choose what they want to Enforce and what they Don't.

If a Federal Law is wrong, then Congress should Change it. That's their Job.
 

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If you are Bored and have some Free Time on your hands, you might do some Recreational Read regarding Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution. Interesting stuff.

Just me. But I would Rather have the AG/Justice Department enforce All Federal Laws. Than have Him/Her pick n' choose what they want to Enforce and what they Don't.

If a Federal Law is wrong, then Congress should Change it. That's their Job.
Agreed! However Congress is not very effective these days. I think they're on vacation again
 

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I would prefer the Attorney General... have influence over the president and fed. employee (including Congress) and their activities. Period. He seems like the man for the job, as he hates everything equally...

Also, it would be nice if the FDA reviewed politican's behavior for fraud, theft, and insanity, and any left over time (none) could be spent reviewing the safety of our meds, and there would be no time, so we could just use the EU legislation and science. Mildly better.

Also, OUR GOVERNMENT IS ENTIRELY....insane, at this point. Anyone who doesn't realize that has been programmed. Those of us not horrified by the programing going on in our youth are probably (less effectively) programmed by prior governments, so we need to round up all the over 100 year olds in the country, and they should be locked into a room until they come out with a new political system.

Even George Washington warned against a TWO party system... And look at what it's turned into, Dear Joyce Crayzee-alot speaks for the dems, and our Fearless leader speaks for the republiCANs... sorta.

Oh, sorry, we were talking about deeming regs. THANK GOD the Attn gnrl has no say over the FDA, there wouldn't even be ADVIL left on the shelves.... Too "habit forming."

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If you are Bored and have some Free Time on your hands, you might do some Recreational Read regarding Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution. Interesting stuff.
It is.

Unfortunately, the folks who wrote that clause incorrectly assumed that Congress would only pass laws addressing matters that were explicitly delegated to the federal government in the Constitution, because everything else was, "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

If one reads the whole thing quite literally, one can easily come to the conclusion that about 90% of everything the FedGov does is illegitimate because it is not explicitly authorized to do those things by the Constitution.
 

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Well he is already in opposition of medical .......... I'm just judging him on his own record. He has no business interfering with states rights.
Maybe, but didn't he assist in the approval of a synthetic, pharma supplied substitute?

https://www.davidwolfe.com/jeff-sessions-war-medical-marijuana-big-pharma/

Interesting, too, how state's rights outweigh federal law only when it fits an agenda... thinking bathroom bills and gay marriage and such...

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