Anyone who say the actual footage knows this was just one of the many things Michael Moore fabricated. He's admitted to doing so too, on multiple occasions, under the guise of "entertainment." That man is shameless, but I guess he's far from alone in this New World.
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Anyone who say the actual footage knows this was just one of the many things Michael Moore fabricated. He's admitted to doing so too, on multiple occasions, under the guise of "entertainment." That man is shameless, but I guess he's far from alone in this New World.
I hate Michael Moore a LOT, a great deal, more than many humans on the planet, I genuinely do. He is such a nasty human being, I mean when he did that one movie on gun control, I was like "DAMN IT MICHAEL. The world does not exist for you to go RUNNING around fabricating lies and like, putting people in uncomfortable situations, and exploiting it. When he snuck into, I think it was Clint Eastwood's estate, I was like, "That is beyond shameless, and I don't care what your politics are, or what point you are trying to prove, but I would never DO that, let alone PUBLICIZE it, I would have burned that footage before it could never see the light of day."
There is no "point" to be made if that's the way you act, I'm sorry.
He actually managed to make the dude at his dad's former factory look like a nice person, to be honest. I don't really love putting people in uncomfortable situations, let alone making a movie out of it.
I don't quite wish him death, but I do wish him irreversible blindness from time to time that and perhaps like, a taste bud dies forever each time he does something UNFORGIVABLE. It would be an awesome diet plan for him, I'm just staying. But only because if he could do that to someone else, he probably would.
I first saw that footage in his movie, and I watched it with no soundtrack a couple months later. The difference was pretty amazing although I have to say, I was also yelling at the screen the first time, "Like what, DUDE you WANT our president to incite fear and panic in a Kindergarten classroom because he's not a LIBERAL like you that is just UNFORGIVABLE."
I kind of thought W showed incredible restraint, although probably he was like, "Oh mah god I don't care what MM thinks I have better things to do with my time." LOL.
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There is no "point" to be made if that's the way you act, I'm sorry.
He actually managed to make the dude at his dad's former factory look like a nice person, to be honest. I don't really love putting people in uncomfortable situations, let alone making a movie out of it.
I don't quite wish him death, but I do wish him irreversible blindness from time to time that and perhaps like, a taste bud dies forever each time he does something UNFORGIVABLE. It would be an awesome diet plan for him, I'm just staying. But only because if he could do that to someone else, he probably would.
I first saw that footage in his movie, and I watched it with no soundtrack a couple months later. The difference was pretty amazing although I have to say, I was also yelling at the screen the first time, "Like what, DUDE you WANT our president to incite fear and panic in a Kindergarten classroom because he's not a LIBERAL like you that is just UNFORGIVABLE."
I kind of thought W showed incredible restraint, although probably he was like, "Oh mah god I don't care what MM thinks I have better things to do with my time." LOL.
Anna
Interesting observations. I saw a Trump retrospective on CNN a while back. Seeing him in his 30's, to me he came across as highly intelligent, and quite down to earth and perceptive. It took me by surprise since I wasn't familiar with him back in those days.
Interesting.
Ex-Smokers Who Quit Vaping Are Likely to Relapse Back to Smoking
I'm not sure I can say that I would have expected it, but since I've never reduced my nic (and have no plans to), I guess I'm not the best example/reference.
Legislators take notice (fat chance...).
Ex-Smokers Who Quit Vaping Are Likely to Relapse Back to Smoking
I'm not sure I can say that I would have expected it, but since I've never reduced my nic (and have no plans to), I guess I'm not the best example/reference.
Legislators take notice (fat chance...).
For the most part I agree with everything you said. I just think you left out a bit. There are three primary causes for the demise of true journalism.
The first was what I call "the great consolidation". Historically nearly all media outlets were independently owned and operated. Over the past several decades they have all sold out so that now 5 or 6 conglomerates own nearly all media sources. So instead of hearing lots of independent voices we now hear only 5 or 6.
The second was "cable news". Originally the only televised news people had was local news on the local affiliates of the 3 main channels (ABC, NBC, and CBS). Then in 1951, when the coaxial cable was extended to the West Coast, transcontinental broadcasting became possible and "World News" was added. With only 3 competing stations there was no need for over the top sensationalism and with only 30min per news show they didn't have a lot of time for embellishment of facts or additions of opinions. Then in the 1980's came the rise of 24h cable news. CNN in 1980 and CNBC in 1989. The 1990's saw Fox News and MSNBC added as well. With 24h news cycles that relied heavily on advertisements and ratings, we saw an increase in exaggerated headlines and a whole lot more time devoted to the broadcaster's "opinions" on the news. Facts are facts but all the extra time spent on opinion is where the biased slant really started taking place.
The third was the rise of the internet and social media. The internet brought in the possibility of 'instant" news. News stories could for the first time be written or filmed and published immediately for consumption. This made news a race to be first. No more time to verify sources, and check facts, if something is seen, heard or filmed it has to get pushed as fast as possible with the most exaggerated headline possible to generate as many "clicks" as possible. If you break the story second or third, too many people may have already heard about it and you lose out on click revenue. With no time to gather facts and write detailed factual stories, what you get today is usually 1 small unverified fact, with lots of opinion around and about it, and a bunch of copy/paste twitter responses to the supposed fact, and they call that "news".
What we are left with is mostly opinion pieces from only a handful of companies with very little fact being reported by anyone, and exaggerated in ways to generate the most views, the most clicks, the most revenue. Sensationalist opinion is what is selling, dull unadulterated truth is not.
I still believe strongly in the Wall Street Journal, and rely on it daily. As far as I can see, there's no other print option if someone's looking for good & solid information. The USA Today's not bad, because they provide mainly small snippets.
As turning points go, a huge one came in 1994. The OJ Trial shot up the ratings for "cable news", and literally got people hooked on a 24 hour news cycle. When it was over, even Geraldo Rivera was given new life, and we saw an avalanche of shows feeding a frenzy for a now addicted population.
Just an opinion, worth the paper it's not even typed on.
As turning points go, a huge one came in 1994. The OJ Trial shot up the ratings for "cable news", and literally got people hooked on a 24 hour news cycle. When it was over, even Geraldo Rivera was given new life, and we saw an avalanche of shows feeding a frenzy for a now addicted population.
Just an opinion, worth the paper it's not even typed on.
The WSJ is one of the few publications with any integrity remaining. Most of the rest of them are pure garbage. The press has surpassed the politicians in being among the seediest people in the country.
I'm not pessimistic about this stuff. How many people watch MSNBC or Fox and believe they are seeing impartial truth? My guess is not many. Sure there are some who fall for the idea that their chosen politicians and media outlets are telling the truth and everyone else is lying. Most of us aren't that dumb, we know they are all lying. And I'm doubtful that there was actually some golden age when the media reported facts, and then stuff went downhill.
It's harder in the case of something like vaping where there is very little information out there at all, unless you actively look for it. And people aren't motivated to do the work of filtering out the noise.
I am (pessimistic). From what I witness on social media, everyone is just screaming their opinions at anyone who will listen, and very few do (listen).
In fact, my FB profile pic is currently set to (below) because that's exactly what the world looks like through my now cynical eyes.
I hope that you are on target, and not me. That's the truth.
Wow, that was a lot of interesting information, much of it I agree with.
I am sincerely praying every day that well, social media will implode at some point.
BUT (I'm sure I will shamelessly cross post a bit) a HUGE milestone was reached today, marked upon my calendar for decades to come, my kiddo (after his move) found his Very First Full Time, paid higher than minimum wage job, with benefits, doing something he will like, working with customers who have electronics problems, and repairing them, he had his on the job audition (tearing down and rebuilding a phone I am so glad he did so many electronics things growing up).
Those of you who have kids of that AGE will know what I am talking about-- there is NO greater gift a child can give their parent besides financial independence and a job. Srsly he need give me NO mother's day gift further until the end of time. LOL.
More sadly, he did relapse into smoking after he quit vaping and he's having a bit of a whale of a time with it, although it isn't MUCH but it still isn't great.
I'm never quitting vaping man, I relapsed WHILE vaping. Happy to be okay NOW but man.
Anna
I am sincerely praying every day that well, social media will implode at some point.
BUT (I'm sure I will shamelessly cross post a bit) a HUGE milestone was reached today, marked upon my calendar for decades to come, my kiddo (after his move) found his Very First Full Time, paid higher than minimum wage job, with benefits, doing something he will like, working with customers who have electronics problems, and repairing them, he had his on the job audition (tearing down and rebuilding a phone I am so glad he did so many electronics things growing up).
Those of you who have kids of that AGE will know what I am talking about-- there is NO greater gift a child can give their parent besides financial independence and a job. Srsly he need give me NO mother's day gift further until the end of time. LOL.
More sadly, he did relapse into smoking after he quit vaping and he's having a bit of a whale of a time with it, although it isn't MUCH but it still isn't great.
I'm never quitting vaping man, I relapsed WHILE vaping. Happy to be okay NOW but man.
Anna
Actually there was. I didn't mention this specifically but originally evening "news" was only 15 minutes long. They didn't have time to make up garbage and give slanted opinions. They certainly didn't critique First Lady's for what they were wearing or if their arms looked fat. Even when they went to 30 min nightly news 15 min was still the regular news and the other 15 was weather and sports. Throw in commercials and there isn't a lot of time for nonsense. For that reason at least the local news here is Houston still does a decent job of just facts. Although, periodically there is a little opinion sprinkled in. Of course there is no way of knowing what they choose to leave out (in the interest of time), but what they do say has some semblance of actual journalism in most cases. Unfortunately it is mostly about local shootings, house fires, and car crashes.
Another thing I left out was the rise of "celebrity worship". I left this out because this is more the fault of the public than the media itself. They are going to cover what makes them the most money and our current population seems to care more about who the Kartrashians are sleeping with than what is really going on in the country. They care more about what Melania Trump is wearing (and how it is somehow always the wrong attire for the occasion) than what her husband is doing in the White House. Too many people are completely disengaged from real reality preferring instead to be entertained by "reality TV".
I am neither a glass half empty, nor a glass half full type of person. I am the guy that comes in, drinks the water, and leaves while the optimist and the pessimist are still arguing about it.
Don't confuse my pessimism for an argument. I don't like that I'm seeing the world through these eyes as it's totally out of my nature. Having literally lost friends on both sides of the aisle though makes it sometimes difficult not to see the division that exists today.
Socially liberal and fiscally conservative has become an unpopular position for reasons beyond my ability to comprehend. It won't change me, but it does impact my view.
This is precisely why I tend to use ECF as a place to come for laughter. Sometimes to a fault for the masses, but always quite effective as a self-medication tool against the realities "out there". It's cheaper than the street options too, thankfully.
Well, not counting all the mods, atties, batteries, coils, wicks...
Hmmm. Now I'm beginning to wonder about the option.
Yet when you look at most of America, that's who we are. I think we are mostly moderate people when you strip away all the bs. The internet has just allowed a few extremists to spread their message disproportionately when they used to be isolated in small groups.
I remain a moderate, socially liberal and fiscally conservative. We can't swing back to the middle fast enough for me.
Time to vape excessively and knock back a couple beers!
I always felt we were 40-60% of the country, but I'm lacking confidence of late.
I'm two ahead of you. Catch up, slowpoke!
I always laugh n cry when I see those man on the street interviews. They ask random people simple questions like when was the Declaration of Independence signed. Or how many states are there. Or who is the vice president. And no one gets it right. The average person is utterly clueless. My dad always said it would be easy for the Soviet Union to take over our country. All they had to do was promise not to take our TVs or cars away from us (today it would be our cell phones and X-Boxes).
Interesting, yes, but not especially surprising.
I'm over 4-1/2 years since I gave up cigs, but I still worry what would happen if I couldn't vape.
Cronkite and the Roots of Media Bias - Commentary Magazine
An essential element of the mainstream media's myth about its own impartiality is the notion that before Fox News came along we were living in a golden age of broadcast news reporting. The days when national news was the dominion of three networks and a few major newspapers is portrayed as Eden before the fall, an era when partisanship of the kind that is now both familiar and expected was unknown. A key element to this fairy tale is the idea that the journalistic icons of the time, like CBS's Walter Cronkite, were Olympian figures who would never stoop to play favorites or inject ideology into the news.
But this view is totally false. As media news analyst Howard Kurtz writes in the Daily Beast, a new biography of Cronkite by Douglas Brinkley spills the beans on the godlike anchorman's unethical practices, including blatant partisanship that would make the conservative talkers on Fox and the liberals on MSNBC blush.
Walter Cronkite: Liberal Media Icon
"And that's the way it is"
An essential element of the mainstream media's myth about its own impartiality is the notion that before Fox News came along we were living in a golden age of broadcast news reporting. The days when national news was the dominion of three networks and a few major newspapers is portrayed as Eden before the fall, an era when partisanship of the kind that is now both familiar and expected was unknown. A key element to this fairy tale is the idea that the journalistic icons of the time, like CBS's Walter Cronkite, were Olympian figures who would never stoop to play favorites or inject ideology into the news.
But this view is totally false. As media news analyst Howard Kurtz writes in the Daily Beast, a new biography of Cronkite by Douglas Brinkley spills the beans on the godlike anchorman's unethical practices, including blatant partisanship that would make the conservative talkers on Fox and the liberals on MSNBC blush.
Walter Cronkite: Liberal Media Icon
"And that's the way it is"
I agree that most US based news channels can’t be trusted. The BBC and Al Jezeera are the exceptions for me. Totally unbiased news.
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