Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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Does this mean alcohol will soon be deemed a tobacco product?And the headlines keep coming.
Teen airlifted in critical condition after vaping alcohol at school
"A 14-year-old Wisconsin boy was airlifted to the hospital after attempting to inhale alcohol with a vaping device during class, according to police."
And the headlines keep coming.
Teen airlifted in critical condition after vaping alcohol at school
"A 14-year-old Wisconsin boy was airlifted to the hospital after attempting to inhale alcohol with a vaping device during class, according to police."
I guess I should have added: If your brain is defective, then no amount of safety in a device is going to save you.
When I was 14 I wasn't the most safety conscious person of course, none of us were, but I didn't go around eating detergent, inhaling alcohol, or shoving things up my nose. My only danger at that age was a skinned knee or broken bone(thankfully never happened) due to bike stunts that would be considered tame by today's Youtube standards.
I am starting to think that modern teens need to be wrapped in bubble wrap, with oven mitts taped to their hands and chained to a desk until their brains can mature a bit more. Then again, watching adults take the "whatever it is" challenge (where they jump out of a moving car, and do some little dance and try to jump back in before crashing), those teens may have to stay locked up until they are 40. I mean good Lord these people are stupid.
I keep waiting on the honest headline "Breaking news: Stupidity kills!" and for the government to wake up and realize that they can't regulate or ban stupid.
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This may make me a horrible person, but I do kind of sometimes wish they'd all be relocated to ONE state, or town or whatever (surely there is a state big enough and it starts with C although I would hate for all the smart CA folk to have to move) so that their mess-ups could be limited to one area and not ruining it for the rest of us. LOL.
I know it can't happen, the FDA is happily USING these people to justify their "ends" and it's totally amoral of me to wish, but I sure do WISH from time to time.
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I'm no expert on such matters, so I'm not about to attempt to answer that question.
All I know is the SMOK Stick X8 is a vape device that seems to fit the UL model of an internal battery mod with protection circuitry that uses a LiPo battery. Yet this device failed quite spectacularly with flames and explosion while charging. Granted, it was a SMOK product that failed.
But the UL model of design did not perform as planned.
Samsung's LiPo batteries famously caught fire. Not because of a rating mismatch but because of a production error. Seeing one of the biggest manufacturers of smartphones couldn't ensure the quality of their batteries I'd say it's safe to say vape manufacturers won't be able to either.
So there will be accidents, insisting on LiPo technology exclusively will make sure it's the more violent kind of accidents. Those phone batteries are nothing compared to what's going in a mod, there's gonna be limbs flying off in all directions.
no guarantee on limbs actually flying off. no money back. it break you buy new.
So there will be accidents, insisting on LiPo technology exclusively will make sure it's the more violent kind of accidents. Those phone batteries are nothing compared to what's going in a mod, there's gonna be limbs flying off in all directions.
no guarantee on limbs actually flying off. no money back. it break you buy new.
I'm no expert on such matters, so I'm not about to attempt to answer that question.
All I know is the SMOK Stick X8 is a vape device that seems to fit the UL model of an internal battery mod with protection circuitry that uses a LiPo battery. Yet this device failed quite spectacularly with flames and explosion while charging. Granted, it was a SMOK product that failed.
I think if one Searches the Web, they can find Just About Anything that uses a Battery that has caught Fire. That Isn't Relevant in todays Web Infused age. It's the Percentages on the Population Level that catch fire that is Relevant.
I showed a Regulated Mod once to a Designer I have collaborated with because He couldn't figure out why an e-Cigarette might Fail?
He was Astounded that something that ran off a Battery could be sold where the User could Unintentional (or Intentionally) adjust it (via a Build) beyond the Safe Abilities of the Battery inside it.
Then I showed Him a Mech Mod. He was Completely Dumbfounded by it. He Wouldn't even hold it when it had a Battery and an RDA on it. He called it a THR Pipe Bomb.
LOL
A Trustfire DIY battery box, it's already on the way. Enjoy!What do I win?
we strongly recommend to not enjoy the battery box and instead bury it deep underground for some poor soul to find in 1000 years
Ya know, if it's on its way from fasttech, it just might take 1000 years to get here!
Right, I agree. However the difference between LiPo and Li-Ion is that LiPo explosions are more violent and reactive than Li-Ion. So on the off chance something bad does happen, you are going to be wishing you had Li-Ion and not LiPo in your hand/pocket. You should watch the video linked by Baditude on the previous page, it will explain a lot about the various chemistries and relative safety. As I have also said a large part of battery safety is a properly designed protection circuit. Personally I feel Evolv does a really good job of this. AFAIK there have been 0 battery explosions related to use of an Evolv DNA board.
That should NOT be possible in a regulated mod by any reasonable manufacturer. ALL of them at least claim to have short protections, low ohm protections, reverse battery protections, etc. which would prevent this scenario. I do not know of any battery explosions that occurred on a regulated device while in use. All of the incidents I know of were loose batteries in pockets/purses, mech mods, or LiPo batteries being charged inside the mod they were built into.
If the coil was shorted or way too low for the batteries, then he wasn't wrong.
All Good Points.
And All the more Reasons I believe that a FDA PMTA-able Mod/Atomizer setup will look Very Different than what Most Vapers are accustom to seeing Today.
I'm thankful I've had time to accumulate what I like so I don't ever have to look at what the FDA thinks I should use, let alone use it.
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