Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[DavidOck]

Statement from FDA Commissioner Scott Gottlieb, M.D., on new efforts to advance treatment strategies for helping youth addicted to nicotine as a result of the epidemic rise in teen use of e-cigarettes

"The most recent data show more than 3.6 million middle and high school students across the country were current (within the past 30 days) e-cigarette users in 2018."

Sure would be nice to reference that data, otherwise one might think he was pulling it out of.... somewhere.

 

[stols001]

What the heck I thought he resigned??

I must be insane. I feel like I am today anyway (packing). I suck at it, apparently.

Anna

 

[zoiDman]

"The most recent data show more than 3.6 million middle and high school students across the country were current (within the past 30 days) e-cigarette users in 2018."

Sure would be nice to reference that data, otherwise one might think he was pulling it out of.... somewhere.

What I would like to see is out of those supposed 3.6 million, how many are supposed Daily Users?

Because Taking 1 Hit off a friends e-Cigarette quantifies one into that "Past 30 Days" group.

 

[DavidOck]

We're not supposed to know that.

 

[ScottP]

What the heck I thought he resigned??

I must be insane. I feel like I am today anyway (packing). I suck at it, apparently.

Anna

He did but he gave like 2 months notice instead of 2 weeks.

 

[ScottP]

What I would like to see is out of those supposed 3.6 million, how many are supposed Daily Users?

Because Taking 1 Hit off a friends e-Cigarette quantifies one into that "Past 30 Days" group.

Stop trying to be logical, that has no business in any study that the FDA will consider looking at.

 

[DavidOck]

Stop trying to be logical, that has no business in any study that the FDA will consider looking at.

Or factual. Same caveat.

 

[Jingles]

Having one sip off a friends beer at a party makes one an alcoholic needing treatment according to our FDA. When did they ever worry about that scenario?

 

[zoiDman]

We're not supposed to know that.

Yeah... Harder to call something an Epidemic when we are talking Single Digit Percentages that are Less than 5.

 

[stols001]

TWO MONTHS?

M'ethinks he is going to do something that he feels might get him killed (like ban ecigs) and then he's going into the witness protection program.

To be honest, he really deserves to, that lifestyle looks horrible and I currently sort of feel similarly as I sit here and fail to pack. Maybe I need to freaking... Pack the computer. Call the husband for a pep talk.

Something, Right now I'm sitting waiting for the advil to kick in.

I mean I realize he's in the government but two months seems unduly lengthy.

Anna

 

[Hoggy]

M'ethinks he is going to do something that he feels might get him killed (like ban ecigs) and then he's going into the witness protection program.

Hmmm... M'ewonders if you might not really be onto something here. After all, there does seem to be some kind of bizarre opposite-world phenomenon going on with the FDA/anti-smoking-nuts.

 

[zoiDman]

Vaporizers, E-Cigarettes, and other Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems (ENDS)

 

[zoiDman]

Help Wanted: Seeking Commissioner for Food and Drug Administration

 

[DavidOck]

From that:

Above all, the next commissioner should exhibit an unwavering adherence to science. This includes the ability to base policies on sound evidence and a willingness to monitor existing programs for real-world effects and potential unintended consequences.

For example, despite a nearly 30 percent decline in high schooler e-cigarette use between 2015 and 2017, the FDA and other health agencies undertook a campaign to educate parents and students about a supposed “epidemic” of youth e-cigarette use and to dissuade the behavior. In parallel with this campaign, youth experimentation with e-cigarettes—still small in numbers—increased dramatically.

Bolding is mine, not too optimistic.

Green is their link to:
Tobacco Product Use Among Middle and High School Students...

where it seems that use on more than 1 day in a month means you're addicted.

 

[Rossum]

Vaporizers, E-Cigarettes, and other Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems (ENDS)

LOL! 2012 called and wants their gear back!

 

[BillW50]

Help Wanted: Seeking Commissioner for Food and Drug Administration

You applied, right zoiDman?

 

[zoiDman]

You applied, right zoiDman?

You Betcha. But when it came to e-Cigarettes, they said I seemed to be a bit Overqualified.

And I Don't think they liked it when I said if I got the Job, I would want to bring in My Own person to head up the CTP.

I also Don't think that they liked it when I Questioned some of the Incomplete, Inaccurate, and at times, Fear-Based Spin that the FDA has used when issuing statements about e-Cigarettes.

Example... Some E-cigarette Users Are Having Seizures, Most Reports Involving Youth and Young Adults

So I'm Not super hopeful I will get a 2nd Interview with Azar. But you Never Know?

 

[stols001]

I wish Zoid WAS the FDA commissioner.

The sanity that would begin to gush forth... Not just ecigs either

Anna

 

[zoiDman]

I wish Zoid WAS the FDA commissioner.

The sanity that would begin to gush forth... Not just ecigs either

Anna

I'd Love to Run the FDA. Just not sure how Effective I would be?

Having "dry as dust sarcasm" coupled with Sharp Elbows can sometimes be a Bad combination for a Government Department Head.

 

[ScottP]

I wouldn't mind having the job, but I fear I would be assassinated by Big Pharma as soon as they got wind of my policy changes.