Public shaming is more effective at changing behavior than passing laws. I am sorry she was so intimidated and frightened that she might be considered "offensive" that she feels she must hide the things that she does to add years of productivity to her life and save her untold future expense.
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Surely not, we just concluded a primary here in Kentucky. Everyone running was doing so to help me, protect me and stand up for families.
That's one of the few good things about getting older; attempts to shame us become less and less effective. We just don't care what the young and foolish think.
The vapor gives you a sort of Wild West look! LolSadly the specs in my avatar are no longer available. They were the cat's meow for anyone with Presbyopia because they were adjustable strength. This allowed me to use the same glasses everywhere, outside driving, in front of my computer, and even reading my tablet in bed. They were a wonderful concept that I loved, but they weren't very durable, and the company went out of business, I suspect due to warrant claims (that and they were obviously very top-heavy for a small start-up, at least a half-dozen people with titles that implied six-figure salaries).
PS: Here's what they actually looked like:
Thank you for the heads up. I couldn't last indefinitely on what Ive got. Now it seems I'll have to focus on quality and spend some extra bucks.
Yes, if the FDA rescinded this bs, there would be an anti tobacco backlash, no matter that it's not a freakin tobacco product.
Exactly. Judge Leon ruled that the FDA could regulate vapor products as tobacco products, but they have never been under any statutory obligation to do so. That's what makes Judge Grimm's decision in this case seem wrong to me.
I've not been able to find a copy of the decision itself. In fact I haven't found the official name or docket number for the the case. Can you tell I'm not a lawyer?
What I have found is that Judge Grimm found that the FDA's delay is in violation of the Tobacco Control Act of 2009. Really? That act doesn't mention vapor products at all!
Government constantly finds ways to extend its powers beyond what the law actually gives it.
There's a Judge Grim? Truth is surely stranger than fiction.
Wow, he's perfect for a People's Court type of show!
The only vape shop near me closed over a year ago so if they ban online sales, we'll be fracked. No car at the moment.
Or anyone else for that matter.That's one of the few good things about getting older; attempts to shame us become less and less effective. We just don't care what the young and foolish think.
I'd be less concerned about getting equipment than consumables.
Hmm. Maybe it's time to consider DIY. I'm not in love with any brand, except maybe the NETs I got from Kind. Yikes, they are pricey though!
Ha Ha!That right their reminded me of a scene in Red Octobor, where the politician said " Jack, my job is to be out there kissing babies, while I'm stealing their lollipops"...
We are disorganized, out gunned, might as well be old Salem and anyone associated with smoking/tobacco are the modern witches to be shamed, shunned, burned at the stake...America has a sick need to always have a current "whipping boy" to focus the collective angst upon...
The primary constraint to being able to DYI in the future is whether you'll have access to nicotine. Everything else needed has numerous other uses and is unlikely to become difficult to obtain.
I started buying nic base two weeks after I quit smoking in December of 2013 without really intending to. I had no clue about DIY at that point, but figure if push came to shove, I'd figure it out, and there was no way I'd ever let anyone take the miracle of vaping away from me. I didn't start DIYing unit a couple of years later. Since then, the cost of my consumables has worked out to around $50-60 per year.
I can personally vouch for the fact that properly packaged nicotine base has a very long life in a freezer. The liquid I'm vaping right now was made using nic base that I bought more than five years ago.
Bottom line: Buy some nic base and put it in your freezer. You'll sleep better at night not having to worry about getting fracked.
The primary constraint to being able to DYI in the future is whether you'll have access to nicotine. Everything else needed has numerous other uses and is unlikely to become difficult to obtain.
I started buying nic base two weeks after I quit smoking in December of 2013 without really intending to. I had no clue about DIY at that point, but figure if push came to shove, I'd figure it out, and there was no way I'd ever let anyone take the miracle of vaping away from me. I didn't start DIYing unit a couple of years later. Since then, the cost of my consumables has worked out to around $50-60 per year.
I can personally vouch for the fact that properly packaged nicotine base has a very long life in a freezer. The liquid I'm vaping right now was made using nic base that I bought more than five years ago.
Bottom line: Buy some nic base and put it in your freezer. You'll sleep better at night not having to worry about getting fracked.
You're right. I was going to just buy some "unflavored" organic max/100% VG juice at 6 mg, but with the price (as well as the amounts) it would take so long to have a goodly stash. ($24-32 for 50-100mls)
I was looking at Naked Nicotine and that was usp nic and affordable, at least. Not organic, but can I be so picky for an emergency supply?
Also, the company that I buy from, Velvet Vapors, is using Flavour Arts mostly and it made me realize that if they can do it, so can I!
It is scary to think that like it really may be verboten to buy juice or juice supplies.
And yep, frack is a great word that BSG/Galactica came up with as their F-word. It works!
You're right. I was going to just buy some "unflavored" organic max/100% VG juice at 6 mg, but with the price (as well as the amounts) it would take so long to have a goodly stash. ($24-32 for 50-100mls)
I was looking at Naked Nicotine and that was usp nic and affordable, at least. Not organic, but can I be so picky for an emergency supply?
Also, the company that I buy from, Velvet Vapors, is using Flavour Arts mostly and it made me realize that if they can do it, so can I!
It is scary to think that like it really may be verboten to buy juice or juice supplies.
And yep, frack is a great word that BSG/Galactica came up with as their F-word. It works!
I've used MyFreedomSmokes and Nicotine River nic for years. At MyFreedomSmokes t's about $50 for a liter of 100mg nic base and it's clear once you pour it into a glass bottle. Nic River is abou the the same to me. You can detect a very slight pale yellow tint if you look down through the liter bottle in bright sunlight, but I find it to be smooth with barely detectable nic bite at 3mg strength in a mix. Most people like a little nic bite, especially if they are coming off the cigs.
Organic is a buzz word term for a tobacco product grown without the use of pesticides. Nicotine from tobacco is going to be as organic as it gets.
Given the chemistry involved in extracting and purifying nicotine from tobacco, I'm skeptical that any nicotine could be considered "organic".
I meant the base liquid. Very few juice companies say what VG they use. Like soy, palm, or whatever. The nic is nic from a lab, it's the base I think about.
PG and VG are commonly used in foods and are FDA approved for food and drug use.
Good article comparing PG and VG.
VG vs PG: What’s good for your health? | Vaping Blog
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