as far as I know there are 2 biggest liq. nic. manufacturers in China who deliver to most smaller ones. So there will be not much difference in just liquid nic I guess.
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as far as I know there are 2 biggest liq. nic. manufacturers in China who deliver to most smaller ones. So there will be not much difference in just liquid nic I guess.
That is pretty much what I settled into, I keep a plastic bin of assorted nic in 30 /50 ml bagged bottles of nic on top of my stash. I pick them willy Nilly when I pull them from deep freeze and move them to the fridge freezer for mixing...when my daily user 250ml eliquid bottle gets low, I let one come to room temp and mix a 200ml batch of 6 mg/ml flavorless.Lazy?
I think one of the mistakes starting out is buying a bunch of flavors with no idea what to do with them (yeah, I did it too). It helps if you can find a few recipes for clones of juices you already know and like. buy the flavorings just for the recipes. See how they taste compared to the original, and play around from there. It helped me get an idea of what flavors were really doing what, and a sense of how much to use. After that, either stick to the recipes you know you like (mostly what I did) and/or slowly expand from there. But I think even buying a "starter kit" is a waste, as you'll have two dozen flavors which are unrelated to your particular preference.
And yes, if unflavored works, you've got the easiest prep possible. Then you can become a nic snob and compare different company's nics to see which has the best flavor, and instead of a drawer of flavorings, a freezer full of different brand nicotine. Sorta like vodka.
Only tools needed are a plastic 100ml graduated cylinder and a 5ml syringe to measure the nic into the bottle. whole mixing process takes less than 5 minutes, most of which is waiting for the vg to slowly drip from the graduated cylinder.
When I am done mixing, the small bottle of nic goes back into the freezer, the warming/cooling cycle doesn't effect the 100 mg/ml nic whatsoever, and it stays fresher that way.
That sounds like it might be just a rumor. All nic does not come from China. NicRiver, for instance, carries freebase nic from Poland (which I just ordered) or India. Carolina Xtract is US. I've seen it sourced at other well known suppliers from Sweden, and yes - some from China.
CNT claims to be the world's largest supplier of nic, and sources leaf from Argentina, Germany, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Brazil and USA. Extraction is done in India, and actual final manufacture is in Switzerland.
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Just the one?
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And at ~750 flavors, suddenly Rossum doesn't seem so crazy with his unflavored, anymore.
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I was organizing flavorings today and my neighbor said, "I didn't know you painted." lol, she thought they were bottles of paint (which I did have at one time).
I think I have about 250 flavors, I lost count.
I think I have about 250 flavors, I lost count.
Just the one?
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And at ~750 flavors, suddenly Rossum doesn't seem so crazy with his unflavored, anymore.
It's a big drawer.
I said I vape more unflavored than anything else. I did not say I vape it exclusively.Just the one?
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And at ~750 flavors, suddenly Rossum doesn't seem so crazy with his unflavored, anymore.
I think I've got a couple of dozen flavorings floating around, but I've never bothered to do anything with quite a few of them. That said, one recipe that's in my daily rotation consists of five different flavorings!
To each his own I say.
I'm in the flavor camp. But I'm GOOD at DIY dang it! I suck at building though. I have to be good at SOMETHING.
I never tell new flavorers to like make a complicated recipe. I'm also a good cook. If thy do not taste thy ingredients singly, how will thy know how they may interact together?
I think like Julia Child said that. Or maybe she merely implied it but there was a woman who LOVED food.
Good mixers are like that. They truly love the unique flavors they can create and etc. I'm vaping an eggnog mix right now among other things. It took a bit of crafting but it is one of my favorites BECAUSE of that.
But yeah, taste the Brussel sprout before adding it to a recipe. How else will you really know. I will admit with some time under my belt I don't single flavor everything but weird new stuff, I often will.
Also.... Patience is a virtue.
Unflavored is okay. It's like (to me) a bit quick and dirty. Kind of like drinking an ensure shake instead of eating lunch (which is something I often do if in a rush. With dentures it's just.... You got to make sure they are all securely affixed. You have to make sure if its bite sized, you can eat it. You got to go inspect your "teeth" for well, whatever, which you can't really feel because they aren't "teeth" etc.
To each his own I say.
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I'm in the flavor camp. But I'm GOOD at DIY dang it! I suck at building though. I have to be good at SOMETHING.
I never tell new flavorers to like make a complicated recipe. I'm also a good cook. If thy do not taste thy ingredients singly, how will thy know how they may interact together?
I think like Julia Child said that. Or maybe she merely implied it but there was a woman who LOVED food.
Good mixers are like that. They truly love the unique flavors they can create and etc. I'm vaping an eggnog mix right now among other things. It took a bit of crafting but it is one of my favorites BECAUSE of that.
But yeah, taste the Brussel sprout before adding it to a recipe. How else will you really know. I will admit with some time under my belt I don't single flavor everything but weird new stuff, I often will.
Also.... Patience is a virtue.
Unflavored is okay. It's like (to me) a bit quick and dirty. Kind of like drinking an ensure shake instead of eating lunch (which is something I often do if in a rush. With dentures it's just.... You got to make sure they are all securely affixed. You have to make sure if its bite sized, you can eat it. You got to go inspect your "teeth" for well, whatever, which you can't really feel because they aren't "teeth" etc.
To each his own I say.
Anna
Five flavors at once? Must be a veritable cacophony of chaos, rioting in your mouthI said I vape more unflavored than anything else. I did not say I vape it exclusively.
I think I've got a couple of dozen flavorings floating around, but I've never bothered to do anything with quite a few of them. That said, one recipe that's in my daily rotation consists of five different flavorings!
Not really. While the recipe does have five different flavor ingredients, all together they add up to just under 3% of the mix, and that gets dripped in from the top in an atty that's also bottom-fed unflavored. That's been my "breakfast" vape for a number of years.Five flavors at once? Must be a veritable cacophony of chaos, rioting in your mouth
Reality for me (but of course, we're all different): I vape for the nicotine and out of habit more than for the flavors.
I literally [will likely always] vape nicotine for the positive cognitive and memory effects - and help with depression (contrary to popular belief).
.... But I flavor for the fun!
I literally [will likely always] vape nicotine for the positive cognitive and memory effects - and help with depression (contrary to popular belief).
.... But I flavor for the fun!
I think it’s helpful for my Bipolar 2 mostly depression. Vaping helps calm and slow my wandering mind. It’s a stimulant but I’m not sure how it works to calm people.
I read a study a while back that said it’s the rhythm of the inhale and exhale, much like meditation. Don’t know how valid that is, but it definitely slows down my frantic brain.
I guess it's similar to how Concerta/Ritalin/Adderall, which are stimulants, affect those with ADHD, calming them down and allowing better focus. My son had some degree of it many years ago, and it used to boggle me when I was researching whether to medicate him, how speed had that effect on some.
Whatever it is, glad it helps, Fidola!
Nicotine is one of a very small group of chemicals, probably the only one that is in common use, which works as both a stimulant and a depressant. Chemicals like this are called Biphasic.
(Is nicotine a stimulant or a depressant?)
What Are The Short Term Effects of Nicotine On Your Body?
When you vape or smoke, the short term effects of nicotine are the main thing you’ll notice. This is a bit more complicated than you might imagine, though.
Nicotine is a stimulant, so as well as creating a pleasurable feeling, it also raises your heart rate, improves your ability to pay attention and boosts memory. But it has a “biphasic” action: if you have a little bit, it acts as a stimulant, but if you have more, it can relax you.
For smokers, this means that you inhale more deeply to get a more relaxing effect from nicotine and take shallower inhales to get more of a stimulant effect. Generally, smokers will do this as needed without even necessarily realising it.
For vaping, the majority of devices make you press a button to inhale, but the same basic rule applies. If you want a more relaxing effect, take big puffs and keep vaping until you feel relaxed. But if you want a pick-me-up, take shallower puffs and don’t vape for too long.
(What Does Nicotine Do To Your Body? The answer might surprise you… – Ashtray Blog)
(Is nicotine a stimulant or a depressant?)
What Are The Short Term Effects of Nicotine On Your Body?
When you vape or smoke, the short term effects of nicotine are the main thing you’ll notice. This is a bit more complicated than you might imagine, though.
Nicotine is a stimulant, so as well as creating a pleasurable feeling, it also raises your heart rate, improves your ability to pay attention and boosts memory. But it has a “biphasic” action: if you have a little bit, it acts as a stimulant, but if you have more, it can relax you.
For smokers, this means that you inhale more deeply to get a more relaxing effect from nicotine and take shallower inhales to get more of a stimulant effect. Generally, smokers will do this as needed without even necessarily realising it.
For vaping, the majority of devices make you press a button to inhale, but the same basic rule applies. If you want a more relaxing effect, take big puffs and keep vaping until you feel relaxed. But if you want a pick-me-up, take shallower puffs and don’t vape for too long.
(What Does Nicotine Do To Your Body? The answer might surprise you… – Ashtray Blog)
I guess it's similar to how Concerta/Ritalin/Adderall, which are stimulants, affect those with ADHD, calming them down and allowing better focus. My son had some degree of it many years ago, and it used to boggle me when I was researching whether to medicate him, how speed had that effect on some.
Whatever it is, glad it helps, Fidola!
I suppose that makes perfect sense. My sister is all kind of and takes Adderal to slow down and focus. I’ve never even wondered about that.
And thanks. I hope your son is doing well.
Isn’t that interesting and I’ve never thought of that. ive mentioned before that I like dripping because it’s very calming for me and really does take it down a notch
At this point, I barely inhale. Guess I'm in it for the stimulation (though I took it up for the salutary effects of nicotine on brain function). Makes sense. Always liked my stimulants, and MS is a sapper, so boosts are even more welcome.
Thanks - and he's fine.
OK- way off topic warning: I'd kind of forgotten about this, but it's kind of interesting (to me, anyway). It's funny, but in 2011, when I asked the pediatrician about ADD, it was really only a pretty subjective questionnaire, with maybe a dozen or so responses. VERY subjective and unscientific, but millions just medicated anyway- seemed everyone was doing it. I was very skeptical, but we tried Concerta for a short time, no real help, but diminished his appetite.
Ended up taking him for something called QEEG, I think it was - an exhaustive brain wave measurement thing. Took several days. They'd hook him up to electrodes, have him perform tasks (visual and auditory), and measure the brain activity. Also interviews and pages of questions, and all sorts of analysis. Turns out he did have a very low level ADD (not ADHD), but according to his brain wave patterns, it wasn't the type that responds well to typical ADHD meds. We got a 30+ page report, with all kinds of scores and graphs, recommendations, and stuff like this about his brain waves. I forget what it all means, but I felt better about not medicating him, and doing only behavior modification training. (hope he's not embarrassed that I'm showing his naked brain!
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I've always questioned the wisdom of dosing children with speed. Maybe all these ADD/ADHD kids should be advised to vape instead. Just think--a kindergarten full of five-year-olds blowing clouds!
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