Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[Baditude]

Yeah but not the lawmakers that count.

Until the Feds make it legal you would not BELIEVE the amount of jobs/careers that are just CLOSED to you completely.

And I wonder if lawmakers have to take "random drug tests" and the like. I am guessing NOT.

Hemp has probably been America's #1 cash crop for decades despite it being illegal to grow in most states, and that is about to change. There are more uses for hemp than getting a recreational high. Its oils have analgesic and anti-inflamatory properties as well as other medicinal uses. The plant itself is useful for making clothing and other home goods, and I've seen a boat made from hemp plant fibers that was as strong as carbon fiber.

Clothing made from hemp

Boat made from hemp



Employers blocked from discriminating against staff using marijuana in ...

Bill Proposes to Prevent Discrimination Against ... - Skoler Abbott

 

[Zazie]

Hemp oil could also be used to fuel cars. It's a renewable energy source and grows like a weed on lousy soil.

 

[HigherStateD]

Hemp has probably been America's #1 cash crop for a decade dispite it being illegal to grow in most states, and that is about to change. There are more uses for hemp than getting high. Oils have analgesic and anti-inflamatory properties as well as other medicinal uses. The plant itself is useful for making clothing and other home goods, and I've seen a boat made from hemp plant fibers that was as strong as carbon fiber.

Clothing made from hemp

Boat made from hemp

Hemp is legal to grow in 49 states, with a valid permit. Most states allow a maximum THC content of 0.3%, with south carolina being the exception, allowing for 3%. Idaho is the only state it remains illegal in.

 

[stols001]

Hemp's fantastic, IMHO. I had a pair of hemp pants once, and they were great, and lasted forever.

As to medicinal oils and whatnot, yes, that is all true.

However, my mother, who lives in Colorado and who SWORE she would never do anything besides cbd now takes a tincture of the SMALLEST amount of other stuff in it. She says it helps her arthritis greatly, and like, her whole disposition has changed.

Seriously, she has not been this chill in her whole life. I have NOTHING against medicinal oils but the most effective part of the plant should not preclude you from.... A lot of stuff. If you can make it through medical school that way, AND pass your boards, you should be allowed to PRACTICE. Period.

I am now taking valium, mainly because my doc gave it to me for a back injury AND stress It ALMOST killed my fine motor tremor, which I was DYING to have continue. The switch was really hard, and I don't know how usual it is for a person to take valium in the daytime (I mean.... possibly) but for a hypermetabolizer like myself, well, honestly the half-life was ROUGH. I was pretty fried and So happy it is pretty much OVER.

But, if I can do that and not kill anyone, I am telling you that switch probably impaired me more than a REASONABLE other substance user of other stuff, and it's just... It's DUMB.

Anna

 

[Rossum]

The definition of guerilla warfare is sudden, violent action with as much possible damage inflicted when you have few resources, but you know the terrain. It is going to have to be that.

Just to be clear, I was speaking metaphorically. I do not advocate the initiation of violence. Let me snag a portion of the Wikipedia definition:

Guerrilla warfare is a form of irregular warfare in which a small group of combatants, such as paramilitary personnel, armed civilians, or irregulars use military tactics including ambushes, sabotage, raids, petty warfare, hit-and-run tactics, and mobility, to fight a larger and less-mobile traditional military.

We vapers are indeed a small group, but we do have better mobility.

We are just all going to have to embrace our criminal side just like alcohol and prohibition until the government gives in. I'm down.

If we prep, there isn't even anything criminal about what we're doing.

 

[stols001]

Um, I don't think that definitions that are all about "warfare" and "military" are really like having reasoned discourse about the issues. They are fighting and usually with weapons of some sort.

I mean you want to like, build a careful trap and get a politician to walk over it and he collapses into a pit and you want to TALK him into submission? I don't think it works like that.

There are not very many vaping criminal acts, but once vaping is severely restricted, the acts involved in helping other vapers are going to be quite CRIMIAL indeed.

Seriously, Anonymous didn't DO that much besides incite AWESEOME dis-organized rallies and a few PSAs and a LOT of the main folks involved got LOCKED up by the government.

We are talking about talking down Scientology an organization the GOVERNMENT couldn't stop for like, what, fifty years?

The government has a LOT more at stake here and if you think the very act of talking about a non-Juul vape could get you arrested.

@Rossum either you are thinking along different lines than I, but I have a feeling when all is said and done 90-90% of vaping will "soft" crime and maybe 5% HARD TIME.

Anna

 

[JCinFLA]

I saw a new-to-me ad (several times within an hour and 1/2) on TV earlier this afternoon...sponsored by a law firm. Another 1 of those stating the typical "you may be entitled to compensation if you've experienced....." It was about JUUL, the current addiction problem with teens using it, and the dangerous medical conditions possibly experienced after use. (Those were their words, not mine, by the way.) Gave the phone number and website info for the firm, for people to contact them if they've experienced: addiction, seizures, stroke, and/or respiratory problems after using it.

I'd read on here somewhere about the written ad (related to seizures), but hadn't seen anyone post about seeing 1 on TV yet. Please excuse my post if someone has posted about the new TV ad elsewhere.

 

[stols001]

Man, I wish *I* had lived in time when engaging in a criminal act had given ME the right to a freaking LAWSUIT instead of you know, punishment.

OH WAIT-- No, I don't! Because I lived in a time when people actually took responsibility of their actions and the consequences thereof. AND I learned how to be a decent human being!!!!!

This is like the person who engaged in a DUI and killed someone suing their CAR company for their actions and getting a million dollars.

snowflakes, and the ones currently being bread.

I DO NOT want to get political in any direction really other than to say, if things don't come to a head and CHANGE , this country will be ed. BIG TIME.

Anna

 

[Rossum]

I saw a new-to-me ad (several times within an hour and 1/2) on TV earlier this afternoon...sponsored by a law firm. Another 1 of those stating the typical "you may be entitled to compensation if you've experienced....." It was about JUUL, the current addiction problem with teens using it, and the dangerous medical conditions possibly experienced after use. (Those were their words, not mine, by the way.) Gave the phone number and website info for the firm, for people to contact them if they've experienced: addiction, seizures, stroke, and/or respiratory problems after using it.

I'd read on here somewhere about the written ad (related to seizures), but hadn't seen anyone post about seeing 1 on TV yet. Please excuse my post if someone has posted about the new TV ad elsewhere.

The first thing we do, let's....
(except retired ones in Kentucky, they get a pass)

 

[somdcomputerguy]

There are more uses for hemp than getting a recreational high.

Hemp and the other plant are close cousins, but one can't get high off hemp.

 

[Bronze]

Hemp and the other plant are close cousins, but one can't get high off hemp.

Betcha Anna could.

 

[stols001]

but one can't get high off hemp.

Technically you could gather up a HUGE pile and clamber on top and you would be "high off hemp."

I thought help was outlawed in many states because it was way too easy to hide certain "clumps" of more... High yield crops, so to speak?

I mean, in the 60s there were people in HYSTERICS about this stuff honestly.

In some ways, cracked eggs in saucepans was a WAY gentler era than "WE WILL BURN ALL THE HEMP."

With the egg commercial there still exists the totally possibility of still saying YES.

Anna

 

[HigherStateD]

Technically you could gather up a HUGE pile and clamber on top and you would be "high off hemp."

I thought help was outlawed in many states because it was way too easy to hide certain "clumps" of more... High yield crops, so to speak?

I mean, in the 60s there were people in HYSTERICS about this stuff honestly.

In some ways, cracked eggs in saucepans was a WAY gentler era than "WE WILL BURN ALL THE HEMP."

With the egg commercial there still exists the totally possibility of still saying YES.

Anna

The federal farm bill(s) of 2016 & 2018 addressed this, temporarily, and then permanently. They, in their mighty wisdom, said hemp was no longer marijuana, and as such, could be grown if properly tested. Similar to mushrooms, but I digress. Things like CBD, and all other cannabinoids except the almighty THC are now federally legal.

 

[stols001]

Well good because hemp is pretty useful and IIRC can be grown in a bunch of climates. God knows, large SWATHES of Arizona could stand to have some green around.

Where is my proliferation of cheap hemp clothing? It's all being used in biofuel I bet.

Don't correct me. I mean, do if you want. I actually know vaguely close to zero about hemp apparently and farming DEFINITELY. The one time I even wanted to stay to watch an Amish thing they were playing volleyball. It was cute. Hats on. Most of the time I feel like the CHARACTER (I cannot specify this enough) not the ACTRESS KIRSTY HALLEY in that movie about Witness Protection among the Amish.

They should NOT have tried to make that one a comedy by the way. But yeah, Amish Volleyball, vaguely charming. Farming Lifestyle, not so much.

Don't let those crazy Southern Hemisphere ladies on the shinyitis threads fool you. There is nothing CHARMING about delivering a lamb CAN I TELL YOU.

Also, yeah by all means correct me if you feel the need, it's just that I already know I'm probably incorrect, and, as long as I'm not required to participate in breech lamb delivery which would SUCK, but I would just.... Do what I was told by the farmer, vet whomever.

And there would be no life lessons like James Herriot, nor rom com. I would not fall in love with a farmer/vet and I have already told the husbands that most stuff that is "Typical" in a set of owners of land "chickens" "goats" etc. scare me to DEATH.

I would like to farm coyotes though, the canine kind. I bet I could get some pretty sweet specimens going

Also according to my kid, owning a cheetah is pretty safe, with limited space. They are shy creature apparently and they only want to eat things that can go JUST slightly less fast than THEY can. So if you keep them cooped up and well fed, they might be safe.

I'm not sure if like, I BELIEVE all that, but I'm also not ready. Coyotes I am pretty sure I could handle. I don't know how much of a cash crop they might be and what sort of legal safeguards I need to write into my "sellers' document" that I hand the parents as my adorable sweet coyote puppies climb up into their welcoming children's arms and whatnot.

A refund?
A limited life insurance policy?

Oh well, some stuff I can figure out later. LOL.

Anna

 

[Dr. Seuss]

I used to work with a lady who had asthma or something similar and she had an inhaler that ran on battery and the “mechanism of action” was vibration of some sort, and it produced a vapor.

Reading this thread, I’m still not really sure what to expect ahead, I get exactly what is going on, but not really the end game. What response it’s triggering though is the inner MacGyver.

There’s a lot, a lot of people that are a lot smarter than I am so what I’m wondering is if there may be some sort of back to the beginning “garage modding” scene that may emerge from all this and what exactly that may look like. The guerrilla talk got me on this train of thought. Where there’s a will there’s a way and the type of engineering that goes on in prisons has always fascinated me. As the line between “inside” and “outside” get blurrier here in America, I wonder what we’ll see.

Plus we have the internet. If someone were to have the initiative to get a head start on something along that line of thought, it may prove beneficial.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I used to work with a lady who had asthma or something similar and she had an inhaler that ran on battery and the “mechanism of action” was vibration of some sort, and it produced a vapor.

Reading this thread, I’m still not really sure what to expect ahead, I get exactly what is going on, but not really the end game. What response it’s triggering though is the inner MacGyver.

There’s a lot, a lot of people that are a lot smarter than I am so what I’m wondering is if there may be some sort of back to the beginning “garage modding” scene that may emerge from all this and what exactly that may look like. The guerrilla talk got me on this train of thought. Where there’s a will there’s a way and the type of engineering that goes on in prisons has always fascinated me. As the line between “inside” and “outside” get blurrier here in America, I wonder what we’ll see.

Plus we have the internet. If someone were to have the initiative to get a head start on something along that line of thought, it may prove beneficial.

My advice is to stock pile your favorites. Mods,tanks, stock coils or wire to build your own and learn to make your own ejuice. Become independent so whatever happens has no effect on you or the way you vape.
My 2 pennies

 

[Eskie]

I used to work with a lady who had asthma or something similar and she had an inhaler that ran on battery and the “mechanism of action” was vibration of some sort, and it produced a vapor.

Reading this thread, I’m still not really sure what to expect ahead, I get exactly what is going on, but not really the end game. What response it’s triggering though is the inner MacGyver.

There’s a lot, a lot of people that are a lot smarter than I am so what I’m wondering is if there may be some sort of back to the beginning “garage modding” scene that may emerge from all this and what exactly that may look like. The guerrilla talk got me on this train of thought. Where there’s a will there’s a way and the type of engineering that goes on in prisons has always fascinated me. As the line between “inside” and “outside” get blurrier here in America, I wonder what we’ll see.

Plus we have the internet. If someone were to have the initiative to get a head start on something along that line of thought, it may prove beneficial.

That's an ultrasonic nebulizer. Actually pretty nice as they're small and run off batteries so they're easy to carry around, unlike the air compressor nebulizers. But the type of vapor they produce is cool, not the warm vape we're used to. There are already 2 ultrasonic vape mods on the market, neither of which have been well received in reviews. Haven't read anything from actual users on here on them.

As to hemp, there are several threads on this forum about using it as wicking material. Some liked and some didn't. If you Google it you'll find hemp packaged as wicking material if you want to give it a shot. I think there's even one drop in coil that's part hemp, like the Falcon tanks that are part wood pulp, I just can't remember the brand.

 

[DaveP]

That's an ultrasonic nebulizer. Actually pretty nice as they're small and run off batteries so they're easy to carry around, unlike the air compressor nebulizers. But the type of vapor they produce is cool, not the warm vape we're used to. There are already 2 ultrasonic vape mods on the market, neither of which have been well received in reviews. Haven't read anything from actual users on here on them.

As to hemp, there are several threads on this forum about using it as wicking material. Some liked and some didn't. If you Google it you'll find hemp packaged as wicking material if you want to give it a shot. I think there's even one drop in coil that's part hemp, like the Falcon tanks that are part wood pulp, I just can't remember the brand.

We have one of the ultrasonic nebulizers that gets used during the Winter. It works fine, but the cold mist falls to the floor as soon as it exits. I could see how a nebulizer mod would be a cold and unsatisfying vape.

 

[YorkMan]

Y’all are worrying me. I don’t want to become a vape prepper! Prep for hurricanes is enough for me.

 

[Rossum]

Y’all are worrying me. I don’t want to become a vape prepper! Prep for hurricanes is enough for me.

I have a very simple prep plan for hurricanes: Be somewhere else by the time a hurricane gets here. But that's not a viable plan for the storm that he FDA has scheduled for nine months from now.