Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[AttyPops]

FYI - e-cig. chip counter.
hacks. Many apparently didn't work well, though. Further, I haven't done an exhaustive search by any means. Just topical info.
Vuse e-cig modification

Bwahahaha, those only take days to weeks before they are hacked.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

Unless it was some sort of Live situation, I think I might consider passing. I’ve never read her work to gauge what sort of ‘tone’ and ‘direction’ she writes with. My faith in any sort of accurate and positive message making it all the way through to publication is right at about 5%. That raises a little with a live situation. Again though, I don’t know where she’s at in her journalistic career/view/ethics.

I would advise not winging it, have predetermined facts and treat the converstion like you are in court on the stand. Anything you say can and will be used against you.

Wouldn't be live, since it's a newspaper. And I definitely wouldn't do an audio interview. The only thing I'd consider really, would be written. I think I speak well enough, I guess, but then it'd just be paraphrased, parsed, and put into what they want. If it were written, at least I'd have time to consider how statements could be used out of context before submitting.

I still remember years ago, my wife being interviewed a couple of times for written publications - a newspaper, a magazine. Absolutely nothing went in there verbatim, and they completely fabricated some quotes, because they thought it'd look good. This was nothing terrible, really, to make her look bad or anything - they were just puff piece features, but it opened my eyes a little. Same kind of stuff happened with me, in PR press releases for industry publications. They just pretty much wrote what they wanted, and attributed it to me.

And that's what Oliviera does - puff piece stuff, usually in the Living section, rather than A or business. I looked her up after receiving her first reply. In the email exhchange, you'd find it hard to believe she was a writer. Even in the clip above: run on sentences, "I feel like I do talk about the cases," poor/missing punctuation. It's been like communicating with a 20 something employee, expressing feelings rather than facts. I have no idea if she has an agenda on this, but working for a newspaper- I can guess her political leaning. My hope was to enlighten her a little, and appeal to a young writer that maybe wanted to make a name by actually digging up facts not presented on the front pages of all the other papers & media. Even a little influence could help.

 

[Bronze]

I vape and I vote.

That’s nice, but who are you going to vote for? Will Joe keep vaping legal? How about Bernie? Liz? Anyone running for prez? If anyone believes any of the candidates will run on keeping vaping legal then I have some ocean front property in Iowa for sale. PM me.

We can blame Trump all we want but remember if his administration did nothing the vape industry would have disappeared more than a year ago. It just took him longer to get to the same point that Obama did.

Perhaps,”I vape, and I wont vote”, would be more accurate. Meanwhile, make your own plans if you want to keep vaping.

 

[zoiDman]

FYI - e-cig. chip counter.
hacks. Many apparently didn't work well, though. Further, I haven't done an exhaustive search by any means. Just topical info.
Vuse e-cig modification

Think "Windows Activation" like Pods paired to your JUUL Mod via your Adult Verified JUUL Account.

 

[AttyPops]

Think "Windows Activation" like Pods paired to your JUUL Mod via your Adult Verified JUUL Account.

Whatever it takes for them to lock the market due to youth access and all the "dangers" from all us "stupid users", eh?
I'm tell'n ya zoiD, it's done. It's over. I'm so disgusted. I don't mind that they limit youth access...but I want open systems.

It's like being on the ground after the bombs start falling. It's over, we're just seeing it play out now. Trump won't fix it, nor will Biden, Warren, etc.

Not that I want to discourage people from trying. Go ahead and call/write. Not saying it might not work. I mean, who knows? Space aliens may save us too.

<grumbles unintelligibly>

 

[ENAUD]

Whatever it takes for them to lock the market due to youth access and all the "dangers" from all us "stupid users", eh?
I'm tell'n ya zoiD, it's done. It's over. I'm so disgusted. I don't mind that they limit youth access...but I want open systems.

It's like being on the ground after the bombs start falling. It's over, we're just seeing it play out now. Trump won't fix it, nor will Biden, Warren, etc.

Not that I want to discourage people from trying. Go ahead and call/write. Not saying it might not work. I mean, who knows? Space aliens may save us too.

<grumbles unintelligibly>

The fix was in before the game began...

 

[Brewdawg1181]

I vape and I vote.

That’s nice, but who are you going to vote for? Will Joe keep vaping legal? How about Bernie? Liz? Anyone running for prez? If anyone believes any of the candidates will run on keeping vaping legal then I have some ocean front property in Iowa for sale. PM me.

We can blame Trump all we want but remember if his administration did nothing the vape industry would have disappeared more than a year ago. It just took him longer to get to the same point that Obama did.

Perhaps,”I vape, and I wont vote”, would be more accurate. Meanwhile, make your own plans if you want to keep vaping.

Yep. Seeing that so much lately kind of scares me. Hopefully, most mean only to use it as a threat. I mean, I know we like our vapes and everything. But to make THAT your single issue vote?

"Yep - I warned Trump, but now I'm just gonna have to vote socialist, I guess. "

 

[mightymen]

I vape and I vote.

That’s nice, but who are you going to vote for? Will Joe keep vaping legal? How about Bernie? Liz? Anyone running for prez? If anyone believes any of the candidates will run on keeping vaping legal then I have some ocean front property in Iowa for sale. PM me.

We can blame Trump all we want but remember if his administration did nothing the vape industry would have disappeared more than a year ago. It just took him longer to get to the same point that Obama did.

Perhaps,”I vape, and I wont vote”, would be more accurate. Meanwhile, make your own plans if you want to keep vaping.

I look at it this way. what has a direct effect on me?

Who made that a LAW that has an immediate effect on my well being. Which governor and party is responsible. If I ever thought I would vote for them my mind has just been made up for me. The states are the ones who pushed the issue and it is the states I hold responsible not the federal government.

 

[Katya]

Does anyone here think that the BT companies haven't researched this quite extensively and most likely have a pretty good handle on it?

Don't know, Rossum. I'm sure they have researched it, but I doubt that they have found an answer. If they had a healthier alternative to traditional cigarette that delivers the same ability to, at the same time, stimulate, calm and focus the user, why would they sit on it?

WTA liquids helped scratch the itch for me early on, but it seems they aren't the complete answer either.

Exactly. I'm still looking for a complete answer.

“It is quite a three pipe problem, and I beg that you won't speak to me for fifty minutes.”
― Sherlock Holmes

 

[zoiDman]

Whatever it takes for them to lock the market due to youth access and all the "dangers" from all us "stupid users", eh?
I'm tell'n ya zoiD, it's done. It's over. I'm so disgusted. I don't mind that they limit youth access...but I want open systems.

It's like being on the ground after the bombs start falling. It's over, we're just seeing it play out now. Trump won't fix it, nor will Biden, Warren, etc.

Not that I want to discourage people from trying. Go ahead and call/write. Not saying it might not work. I mean, who knows? Space aliens may save us too.

<grumbles unintelligibly>

I'm a it Ain't Over till It's Over type. And there is Enough Time from Now to the FDA Drop Dead Date for things to quite down. So I'll continue to Fight as long as I have Rounds.

But the e-Cigarette is Going Change.

So maybe the Way to Look at it is that We were/are the Fortunate Ones. That got to see it when it was 2 Piece Attys and Cartos all the Way to Today.

A Small Consolation. I Know. But it keeps me from Drinking.

 

[Katya]

There's also more...IDK...endorphin effect or whatever...from smoking (if I remember correctly).

Dopamine, Atty. It's all about the dopamine.

 

[Eskie]

Dopamine, Atty. It's all about the dopamine.

Never buy into a single neurotransmitter. It's a lot more complicated. Lots of other substances affect dopamine but yield very different experiences than nicotine, and nicotine sure doesn't feel like them.

 

[Katya]

Never buy into a single neurotransmitter.

Wouldn't dream of it, Eskie!

 

[AttyPops]

Don't know, Rossum. I'm sure they have researched it, but I doubt that they have found an answer. If they had a healthier alternative to traditional cigarette that delivers the same ability to, at the same time, stimulate, calm and focus the user, why would they sit on it?

They know every damn chemical inside and out. And probably all the effects, billions of combinations of effects I'm sure.

They've been at this well over 70 years with teams of scientists.

 

[AttyPops]

Dopamine, Atty. It's all about the dopamine.

Whatever. Bunch-o-stuff. There's still withdrawal even with nic.

I still think nic alone is addicting, but not like cigs are.

 

[Katya]

Very pro-vaping segment on Martha MacCallum with Kat Timpf. As we speak.

 

[ENAUD]

I have always had the thought that carbon monoxide has a role to play in that ciggo buzz. Even long time smokers who are withheld from smoking for several/many hours, at least in my case, got a little buzz when they can finally get a smoke.

 

[Bronze]

Very pro-vaping segment on Martha MacCallum with Kat Timpf. As we speak.

Cuomo will have her locked up after the show.

 

[ENAUD]

I have always had the thought that carbon monoxide has a role to play in that ciggo buzz. Even long time smokers who are withheld from smoking for several/many hours, at least in my case, got a little buzz when they can finally get a smoke.

Also noted via personal experience, that buzz is a diminishing return that seems to vanish rapidly. Hemoglobin has a much stronger bond to CO than O2, so it takes a long time for respiration to eliminate it. I've never seen to much discussion regarding CO and it's effects, but I have been in a barn with running engines, and had that very similar feeling to a nic buzz due to my exposure to CO.

 

[englishmick]

I vape and I vote.

That’s nice, but who are you going to vote for? Will Joe keep vaping legal? How about Bernie? Liz? Anyone running for prez? If anyone believes any of the candidates will run on keeping vaping legal then I have some ocean front property in Iowa for sale. PM me.

We can blame Trump all we want but remember if his administration did nothing the vape industry would have disappeared more than a year ago. It just took him longer to get to the same point that Obama did.

Perhaps,”I vape, and I wont vote”, would be more accurate. Meanwhile, make your own plans if you want to keep vaping.

Don't think I've heard any of the dem candidates express an opinion on vaping, but I think the chances of any of them coming out on our side are about zero. It's just not an issue that fits into the blue hat red hat spectrum.

When Pence's vaping bill happened in Indiana both parties lined up to support it. That was even before Juul and the teen epidemic and killer lung disease.

About the only thing that could help us now is a billionaire.