Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[zoiDman]

This is strange. I'm a supporting member of CASAA and usually get all their emails--I didn't get this one. Also, I can't find any confirmation of this anywhere--not on CASAA website or their subforum here, not on Google. Are you sure this email is legit?

That's Interesting.

Because I just did some Googling and you are right. The Only thing I can come up with is this...

FDA issue recommendations to pull flavors this Friday : electronic_cigarette

FDA to announce Federal Vape Ban Friday 10/11? : electronic_cigarette

 

[Qew]

I didn't get a CASAA email either. I did get an email from The White House today telling me that Trump is taming the bureaucracy that runs roughshod over Americans by signing 2 executive orders this week. The email contains a link to a 10/9 statement from acting OMB Director Russ Vought, which in turn has a link to the full op/ed on the Fox News website.

It's all about how deregulation helps to keep the feds out of our business. I was going to grab some snips but decided against that. One order is titled the "Bringing Guidance out of the Darkness", the other is named "Transparency and Fairness".

Acting OMB Director Vought: Trump Keeps Promise to Tame Bureaucracy That Runs Roughshod Over Americans | The White House

Acting OMB Director Russ Vought: Trump keeps promise to tame bureaucracy that runs roughshod over Americans

 

[Blitzdonlife]

I didn't get a CASAA email either. I did get an email from The White House today telling me that Trump is taming the bureaucracy that runs roughshod over Americans by signing 2 executive orders this week. The email contains a link to a 10/9 statement from acting OMB Director Russ Vought, which in turn has a link to the full op/ed on the Fox News website.

It's all about how deregulation helps to keep the feds out of our business. I was going to grab some snips but decided against that. One order is titled the "Bringing Guidance out of the Darkness", the other is named "Transparency and Fairness".

Life is full of irony.

 

[Brewdawg1181]

My new favorite description of oxidized nic!

I know, right? Sounds funny, but let some stay around at room temp and tell me I'm wrong!

 

[Rossum]

I know, right? Sounds funny, but let some stay around at room temp and tell me I'm wrong!

I opened a 2 year old room temperature sample this summer (100 mg, PG). I didn't really intend to sniff it, but caught a whiff. It was nasty.

As to exactly how one would describe the smell, well; smell, like taste, is somewhat subjective.

 

[DavidOck]

Lots more flavors in the vodka aisle.

 

[Katdarling]

Life is full of irony.

And irony is full of life.

 

[NolaMel]

This is strange. I'm a supporting member of CASAA and usually get all their emails--I didn't get this one. Also, I can't find any confirmation of this anywhere--not on CASAA website or their subforum here, not on Google. Are you sure this email is legit?

@kristin If you're around--is this happening?

The email address I posted looked legit, but like you when I went independently to the website I couldn’t find it. If @kristin can confirm it’s not legitimate, I’ll block the source. I don’t want to spread incorrect information, but to me it did look legit until so many others said they didn’t get the same info.

Edit... just checked this fb page, and no mention. .(Louisiana chapter) very odd and concerning. I certainly don’t want to disseminate incorrect information when we’re all already upset

 

[NolaMel]

I went back and pulled up other emails from CASAA and they all had the same email address. This is weird

 

[stols001]

So much to multi-quote, so little time. First of all, I would say I want Dr. Goldberg to be my doc but that is not actually what I want. I would like him to be my (first and only) like victim of my dungeon mistress and I could do stuff like heat up candle wax SLOLY over time,, replacing it with IDK things that burn at an even HIGHER temperature (kryptonite? Plutonium?) and we could experiment and see at what proportion the candle wax began to be exceeded by the plutonium or whatever, kryptonite and then I would also teach him about percentages and EVEN if the vape was 90% water ,if we had PURE nicotine, the vaper would STILL be getting more vape in them as the water SEEPED through like various airholes on to the vaper's hands. Yeah. Also we would discuss and test via whip and wick, the various whip/wick properties and think that Ceramic wick might win.

I don't want to do this mind you but like, someone needs to bring him back to reality. He is crying out for it. I bet he'd even pay me because I understand that is how dungeon mistresses work, even its by via a note to his wife, saying "How could you marry the dumbest doctor on the planet, give me cash.'

And she would say like, "He said he was a well paid garbageman" and fork over my 2 million (sorry some dumb is like taxing.)

Okay maybe lizards and snakes are like, mortal enemies I would not know really but I have watched hhe movie Wall-E with a certain kind of loving sort of yearning, when he's just DEALING with dead trash and old movies.

I LITERALY SAW A ROACH JUST SCURRY ACROSS MY NICE CLEN FLOR AS I WROTE THIS. I mashed it is wounded and trying to get away but like I don't want to kill it. part EWWW part ARYGH.

I want to live in Biosphere 2 II only it didn't work and I bet you anything they put roaches and skeeters and snakes too it was the 60s all peace love and roach. OMG, it was getting away and I tried to kill it but I'm not sure dude. I mean, it might be fulfilling like it's moral imperative to breed.

No biodome it's a bit small, claustrophobic almost also the microwave lacks serious power.

Sigh I forget the rest that was traumatizing.

DEFINITEY moving out of the city though. Yup.

Also yarning to be flary has not dissipated, I could self heal my stupid pink eye an eradicate the bugs and animals I wanted. Yeah. I know. I would do a bad job. would DO it though even if I had to wear that dumb Tinkerbell costume and Peter Pan was like, "Oh NO clap for Tinkerbell" and I would counter "What is the sound of one hand CLAPING Peter if you re so smart" as I died.
Anna

Yeah I want to be Wall-U

 

[Katya]

I went back and pulled up other emails from CASAA and they all had the same email address. This is weird

Well, we'll find out soon enough, I guess.

And thanks for checking, Mel!

 

[mikepetro]

"Prudential to charge higher insurance rates for people who vape — the same as smokers"

They cited “Increased attention on vaping over the past few months and linkages to a few deaths and multiple illnesses, have resulted in warnings from the FDA, federal government and some states banning the use of flavored e-cigarettes,” as their justification.

Another revenue stream, I suppose......

 

[Myrany]

"Prudential to charge higher insurance rates for people who vape — the same as smokers"

They cited “Increased attention on vaping over the past few months and linkages to a few deaths and multiple illnesses, have resulted in warnings from the FDA, federal government and some states banning the use of flavored e-cigarettes,” as their justification.

Another revenue stream, I suppose......

Saw that coming awhile back.

 

[mikepetro]

An interesting series, watch the all the episodes.

 

[AttyPops]

^^ That vape shop in the intro (Joost vapor store front at 17 seconds in)??? I shop there sometimes. For now. (groan)

 

[AttyPops]

Watched all videos. Feel for the guy. Good on him for fighting the good fight against these short-notice draconian legal changes/corruption with BT.

This is NOT how a democratic republic is supposed to work. Democracy dies in darkness AND in corruption/collusion/back-room deals. I don't care how they're rationalizing all this crap.

 

[LoriP1702]

Watched all videos. Feel for the guy. Good on him for fighting the good fight against these short-notice draconian legal changes/corruption with BT.

This is NOT how a democratic republic is supposed to work. Democracy dies in darkness AND in corruption/collusion/back-room deals. I don't care how they're rationalizing all this crap.

Amen.
Sad times.

 

[DarrenMG]

Feel for the guy too. Quite the success story up until this point.

There really is not much to be done for vape shops owners, they don't make laws, and it is costly to influence law makers (well $ may speak, but they don't have it).

I am hacked off that our law makers are jumping on this trend for political points. They do make laws.

I know people want to blame the media, but the media doesn't operate in a vacuum either, we have too many consumers of media (including those politicians) that are unable to reason, filter, wait for other opinions, etc. The media does not make laws that wipe people out like this.

My anger is directed at the law makers first and foremost. These are the people to be angry at for destroying these vape shop businesses.

 

[englishmick]

Saw this one today. I could quibble with some details but it's a pretty good analysis of what's going on with vaping.

There’s Not Just One Vape Crisis — There’s Three

 

[AttyPops]

My anger is directed at the law makers first and foremost. These are the people to be angry at for destroying these vape shop businesses.

My problem with them is that they're either complete fools, or they're not being honest with us. Hint, it's that last one.

And when that happens, it's no longer a representative democracy/republic. The fundamental institutions we've apparently taken for granted, have crumbled. And I'm not a revolutionary. Not a libertarian, nor extreme left socialist.

I just expect a democratic republic to function as such.

And I'll repeat, I think it's more than just tax revenue going on here. But regardless, the assertion still holds no matter what the motivation. And road to hell is paved with good intentions and rationalizations. But they all end up with some dishonesty somewhere.