Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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We're from the government, and we are here to help...
Our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves.
About two months into converting to vapor instead of smoking, i began to look into DIY...when I did the maths, I said to myself...there is no way they are going to let us ex smokers off the hook this easily and so cheaply...was I mistaken??? I think not!
I feel bad for the vapers of Massachusetts. How are you going to show a tax stamp on anything that was purchased before a tax stamp was required? What about DIY? if that law passes it needs to be challenged immediately.As they say......No good deed goes unpunishedShakyamuni Buddha said we live in an upside down world. He got that right, 3000 yrs ago.
Exactly the reason we are all stocking up before the FDA decides to ban or highly tax 100mg nic base. Better to have it and not worry than to wait for the hammer. Most of us are members of the "I got mine" club. Our nic is in the freezer before the lock down.
I actually started about a year before you did. Not that much of the gear could be futureproofed too much at that time. At that point my REO was my future proof gear. I eventually added a 2nd REO and a provari by the end of 2014. A few other assorted mechs and various RDAs as they hit the market. I even have a few Gennys tucked away but I am praying I never need them. I have since added a huge amount to the collection.Spring of 2014 is when I began future proofing my vape
The big important thing really is to have the Nic squared away. PG, Vg, Food flavorings, batteries, wire and cotton really are not something to worry about. Can you imagine the riot that would ensue if they tried to ban Koh Gen Doh makeup pads or tax it insanely calling it vaping gear? Somehow I don't see the fashionistas putting up with that.
Wow I caught up on this whole thread. I refuse to be depressed and scared, I just can't do it. So I will note I had NO idea what Goodwin's law was, and now I do.
Have I mentioned I once owned a VW bug?
Sigh. Politics truly are divisive indeed. It's a rough game .I have an elderly father who lives in Aus, made a METRIC TON of money in the US before retiring "back home" with the trophy wife. IDK, he kept asking me my opinion on things like "global warming." (Dad, I remember you, when I was 5, talking about the upcoming ice age, maybe they will cancel each other out.") "Why don't they get the guns away from the crazy and violent I'm sure there is a way to do it without violating the 4th amendment." ("ARGGHHHHHH!!!!") I finally let him have it. He emailed back he was "deeply hurt" by my words, and "I was insulting me, my wife, all of your siblings." (I had mentioned NONE of them.) He decided, "I need to cut off email contact with you."
I was just like: "Um here are my political views, we differ a bit can we please just talk about nice things?" Anyway I emailed back a kind apology and said perhaps my email was "tactless" and if we did not talk again, I thanked him for being my father, and told him I loved him. What are you going to do?
Whoever invented the slogan "The personal is political" should be taken out and shot. There is a REASON you vote in PRIVATE. But, if you can't hold a reasonable conversation with your (supposedly mature) parent regarding opposing view points I could see a civil war erupt. I'm not kidding, either. Things are getting weird.
Because so many things going on are so deeply tragic, they do need to be addressed, they have never been addressed. I would like to see the homeless population addressed. F
big tobacco. They should fend for THEMSELVES.
I will say, I do believe the rabbit is out of the hat. I do believe that youth will continue to obtain illegal vapes. This is because they are ALREADY illegal to minors now, and they have ZERO problems obtaining them. They do NOT want to smoke.
Big tobacco is finished, pretty much. The last few die hard smoker will die a slow, painful death, but regardless of how well or poorly we fight back, vaping will remain. It is my SINCERE hope that this generation is the generation that will END SMOKING, (That's the slogan from an impossible to find now "TRUTH" commercial, that used to play all the time.)
They will end it with vaping. I rejoice.
Anna
Have I mentioned I once owned a VW bug?
Sigh. Politics truly are divisive indeed. It's a rough game .I have an elderly father who lives in Aus, made a METRIC TON of money in the US before retiring "back home" with the trophy wife. IDK, he kept asking me my opinion on things like "global warming." (Dad, I remember you, when I was 5, talking about the upcoming ice age, maybe they will cancel each other out.") "Why don't they get the guns away from the crazy and violent I'm sure there is a way to do it without violating the 4th amendment." ("ARGGHHHHHH!!!!") I finally let him have it. He emailed back he was "deeply hurt" by my words, and "I was insulting me, my wife, all of your siblings." (I had mentioned NONE of them.) He decided, "I need to cut off email contact with you."
I was just like: "Um here are my political views, we differ a bit can we please just talk about nice things?" Anyway I emailed back a kind apology and said perhaps my email was "tactless" and if we did not talk again, I thanked him for being my father, and told him I loved him. What are you going to do?
Whoever invented the slogan "The personal is political" should be taken out and shot. There is a REASON you vote in PRIVATE. But, if you can't hold a reasonable conversation with your (supposedly mature) parent regarding opposing view points I could see a civil war erupt. I'm not kidding, either. Things are getting weird.
Because so many things going on are so deeply tragic, they do need to be addressed, they have never been addressed. I would like to see the homeless population addressed. F
big tobacco. They should fend for THEMSELVES.I will say, I do believe the rabbit is out of the hat. I do believe that youth will continue to obtain illegal vapes. This is because they are ALREADY illegal to minors now, and they have ZERO problems obtaining them. They do NOT want to smoke.
Big tobacco is finished, pretty much. The last few die hard smoker will die a slow, painful death, but regardless of how well or poorly we fight back, vaping will remain. It is my SINCERE hope that this generation is the generation that will END SMOKING, (That's the slogan from an impossible to find now "TRUTH" commercial, that used to play all the time.)
They will end it with vaping. I rejoice.
Anna
a little more info.. Starting at Paul Revere
- to borrow from someone on twitter 'the vapers are coming, the vapers are coming!
- to borrow from someone on twitter 'the vapers are coming, the vapers are coming!
Hmm....I read it and it is detailed and complicated but in the end he says it's okay to compare someone/something to Hitler. But if it ends the discussion....well, I can understand that. Who even wants to think about Hitler? One thing I'll never forget is a statement from a Holocaust survivor. She said never think that this can't happen again.Godwin's law - Wikipedia
"For example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that, when a Hitler comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever made the comparison loses whatever debate is in progress.[8] This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's law.[9] "
I'm too slow.
Thank you, WhiteHighlights and happy to meet another MA vaper. I'm going to try my best to be there. although I'm working. If I can find a space to park my Moby Dick van, I'll be there.
Alrighty now.............Today I received my Gas mods RDA from ************, distributing from NJ and CA. My package arrived from CA. It arrived suspiciously, according to my paranoid MA mindset.
So, I'm thinking the package was opened. It was very easy to open myself. I've never received a package with this warning tape around it. Since I didn't have to sign for it, it was delivered this way exactly. This is what they would have found in it. Do you think they even know what this is? The back of the box gives some info. Bottom line is I received it and the box itself wasn't opened. What do you make of this?
So, I'm thinking the package was opened. It was very easy to open myself. I've never received a package with this warning tape around it. Since I didn't have to sign for it, it was delivered this way exactly. This is what they would have found in it. Do you think they even know what this is? The back of the box gives some info. Bottom line is I received it and the box itself wasn't opened. What do you make of this?
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I recieved a Fasttech package today that was re-taped with clear packing tape after (I assume) customs opened it.Alrighty now.............Today I received my Gas mods RDA from eBargainVapes, distributing from NJ and CA. My package arrived from CA. It arrived suspiciously, according to my paranoid MA mindset.
So, I'm thinking the package was opened. It was very easy to open myself. I've never received a package with this warning tape around it. Since I didn't have to sign for it, it was delivered this way exactly. This is what they would have found in it. Do you think they even know what this is? The back of the box gives some info. Bottom line is I received it and the box itself wasn't opened. What do you make of this?
One thing leads to another. During my google fu with others trying to offer help and explanations I found this.....
Cigarette filters contain pig’s blood
Cigarette filters contain pig’s blood
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