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I don't know what percentage of vapor is water. But I read once that it's only visible because of the water that is taken up by the VG or PG. Pure VG PG would be invisible. No idea if that's true.
That sounds a little fishy... But the Propelyne Glycol I use says 99.9% propelyne glycol...
 

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From awhile ago:
Analysis of electronic cigarette vapor

66% H2O - see pdf 16-3 at bottom of first post
This was 10 year old information, and @rolygate went on to say in his next post:

"This is the level of incompetence we are faced with, when looking at research carried out by both laboratory researchers and clinical researchers. It does little to give you confidence in the results of other clinical research when e-cigarette research is obviously so comprehensively mismanaged."

So I, and he, question the results of that data.
 

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This was 10 year old information, and @rolygate went on to say in his next post:

"This is the level of incompetence we are faced with, when looking at research carried out by both laboratory researchers and clinical researchers. It does little to give you confidence in the results of other clinical research when e-cigarette research is obviously so comprehensively mismanaged."

So I, and he, question the results of that data.

Yes. I was only replying to, and addressing where, englishmick may have seen it. It has been reposted many times, but that was the source.
 

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A few points:

What was that saying "The sweetie heard around the world?" Linda my dear, I am going to give you some internet "pick up" pointers (and I was on the internet EARLY back in the days alt.meetups were like, getting together all the time.)

90% of all supposed pick ups or whatever you want to call them are actually made by Asperger engineers and they are confused if you call them on it. 5% are sarcasm (as this was) and the remaining 5% are real, but they are usually blatant like some guy responding to the hello message by saying, "I feel a LOT better after witnessing your beautiful smile, etc."

IGONORE them all. Really. It's just best. I mean it is the INTENET they literally cannot reach through the screen and grope you. If it becomes alarming like they are PMing you "I MUST BE with you, I am investigating your host and trying to pinpoint your location," you know, stuff like that, THEN you PM a mod.

I mean just ignore them you don't want to hurt a poor Asperger's guy's feelings who just thinks he is being nice, and you don't want a sarcasm war either.

I will say I have had a few complements of my age defying red hair but they are people I know and I know they are just being AWESOME.

So I was like, "Eh,"

But really not ignoring it or at least doing so in public just makes you look... I will be polite and use the word "Shrill"

Really, they can't reach out and cop a feel and 95% of the time, you are going to be WRONG and being wrong is no fun.

Here endeth my tutorial on internet um, "pickup attempts."

I had lots of engineers in my alt,. days want to pick me up and the word "No"
just always seemed to work (in person.) I had one poor guy who got MAD at me and claimed I led him on or something and I was like,, okay point to ONE time I ever said anything other than "No, I have a BF,,"

As far as deeming all the PTMAs are getting interesting it could really just be HAPPENING argh.
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    Its also your fault guys IMHO.
    You tried to fight ... a bit, but it was obviously not enough.:unsure:
    There are like 5 different active topics on ECF for "let's stock for a lifetime before the evil govt will ban everything for us" instead of "let's actively fight for our rights because we know what's best for us"
    That's the way of loosing the fight.
     

    AttyPops

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    Its also your fault guys IMHO.
    You tried to fight ... a bit, but it was obviously not enough.:unsure:
    There are like 5 different active topics on ECF for "let's stock for a lifetime before the evil govt will ban everything for us" instead of "let's actively fight for our rights because we know what's best for us"
    That's the way of loosing the fight.
    Interesting perspective from the UK.
    Can't say I disagree. There's a hate-government mentality [is fostered by corporatism] here, so there's a lot of apathy and self-fulfilling prophesy rather than expectation/demanding...right now. Oligarchy.

    The day we take congress back from "special interests" (read BT, BP, etc), is the day we can start fighting for our rights.

    I'll just note that stocking up isn't exclusive to doing other things, we can do both. ;)
     

    stols001

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    I don't think that is exactly a fair assessment you have no idea like, what people are doing besides stocking up. If I posted about every letter or phone call completed, we would all be very bored, and well, it would be less time for phone calls.

    If you EVER thought grass roots advocacy was going to beat like, big tobacco, you are kind of.... naïve in my opinion. I mean... Come on.

    Yeah if we did more of what? Send one of each vaper to kill a tobacco lobbyist or politician who was not "like minded."

    Give it up already. Vaping will remain (and return, kind of like the MJ industry) at some point. Big T will probably be involved in some of it but not all of it.

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    Don29palms

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    nah. nobody has done anything much.
    the only way to protect vaping is to start an nra type organization.
    that would mean everyone would have to cough up some money.
    if every member of both forums coughed up $10, maybe
    we could get something done.
    vapers don't wanna do that.
    I think there are more people that are interested in protecting their constitutional rights than there are people that vape.
     

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