E2 Cartomizer Technical Discussion
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I just clicked on it, it doesnt say they are out. It says 6- 9 day shipping.
ok i made samples packs for everyone that pm'd me, I waited for many to pile up from last night so I will ship them out tomorrow.
everyone else should be recieving theres today
everyone else should be recieving theres today
Got the juice today bad, Thank you. I am having wicking issues with it though. The pg I was using was great, but with the peg I am getting dry hits. I guess I am going to have to take out the filler cap.
its ok, just pm me your addy and ill send it out with everyone elses
i think the filler cap needs to be thinner or the hole in the middle needs to be wider, when i modded the fill cup and cut out the center to expose the air hole more it helps tremendously.
i had these 2 from last night that wicked semi ok with the filler cap so i modded them and wow the difference was huge.
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I can't remember now, but has anyone tried the XL's with the filler plug removed? (just the silicone washer and mouthpiece)? I'm trying that now with both the 808D and 510 version and it seems to working ok. No leaks so far and vaping fine.
Last night I tried a rinse and burn with both of these. I found out that once you get water in these you can forget about burning or blowing it out. I ended up having to remove the filler plugs and water poured out of both (quite a bit of it). I guess that makes sense seeing as these were designed to hold almost 2 mls of juice in. After the plugs were out I dry burned as usual, but instead of trying to re-seat the filler plugs I just inserted the washers flat side down and pushed them up against the top of the cups. I recall Scottbee saying something about the filler plugs being intregal to the design, but so far both are working as expected.
The advantages of this (if it continues to work) are two-fold as I see it: 1) It makes the cartos easier to refill and 2) it makes them much easier to rinse and dry burn.
Anybody else try this yet?
Last night I tried a rinse and burn with both of these. I found out that once you get water in these you can forget about burning or blowing it out. I ended up having to remove the filler plugs and water poured out of both (quite a bit of it). I guess that makes sense seeing as these were designed to hold almost 2 mls of juice in. After the plugs were out I dry burned as usual, but instead of trying to re-seat the filler plugs I just inserted the washers flat side down and pushed them up against the top of the cups. I recall Scottbee saying something about the filler plugs being intregal to the design, but so far both are working as expected.
The advantages of this (if it continues to work) are two-fold as I see it: 1) It makes the cartos easier to refill and 2) it makes them much easier to rinse and dry burn.
Anybody else try this yet?
I'd be really surprised if those are true 3.7V devices. I've yet to see a production battery, aside from the Kangers, that are "true 3.7V" units.
Got burned by that advertising a few times myself (T-Rex and MaxX).
oh yeah scott, god knows what its at but for some reason i like the riva.ego.hello batteries, cheap and work well and are pretty small in size, the only issue i had is that i did have a few doa from different vendors.
banjoman:: yeah i was doing that all night, modding the inner plug, modding the center plug, trying just the center plug and so on, i thing the main inner plug with the refuill holes needs a bigger center hole and needs to be thinner from top to bottom.
basicly we need the center plug with a bigger air hole and lips on the side to go around the cup a little.
at the same time, with the ones that dont leak at all i dont use any plugs and just a drip tip and im in heaven, i also stopped filling the leaky ones to the brim and those dont leak now, i stop at the base of the cup.
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Do keep us posted 'banjo'. I preferred filling these by dripping on the plastic versions, so this would be nice if it proves to be leak proof. From what 'bad' said above it should if you don't overfill.
BTW, Did you remove the filler ring altogether and just use the regular or seat both flat?
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I actually tried a 3.4v device and it was still burnt after 2 seconds, so maybe I'll grab a 3v KR808 and give that a try. The problem is that some flavors burn too easily (especially fruits), so a longer but lower voltage vape should do the trick.
Due to the Primer, I always remove all three caps/rings and give it a test vape before reinserting all the caps. The flavor/vape is actually better than when the caps are installed. Badkolo tried just a ring yesterday (modified filler cap) and it worked well.
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Here's a little more about the KR808 XL that I am playing with. As previously stated, the filler ring has not been disturbed. I didn't want to waste any more juice trying to get the nasty out, so this is what I did to clean the inside out. This is my first try for something like this, so hopefully some of you can come up with something better.
Mine still had some juice in it, so the first thing I did was try to get it out. Or at least some of it. I removed everything from inside except for the filler ring. Then I put a rubber boot on the threaded end (I called it a rubber boot when I first saw one, but later on found out that many people call it a condom). I put another boot on the mouthpiece end, just far enough to secure it. I held the cartridge with that end down and squeezed the air out of the boot. When I released it, a small amount of juice was pulled down from inside. I squeezed on it several times and eventually filled the boot. Juice was pushed up each time, but it only went into the empty space and not the reservoir. I don't know how much juice was left inside, but when I tried to remove the remainder with a syringe, the needle sucked air. This is not saying much because the tip of the needle was almost 1/2" from the bottom.
I washed it out in the kitchen sink using the syringe and a cup of water. This would have been an easy process, but with my bad eyesight I had to feel around to find the little hole. It's a good thing it wasn't dark.
I could have used the plastic filler tube that comes with the cartridges since it fits my syringe, but I used the needle. Once it was in the hole, I left it there. From then on, everything was quick and easy. Suck the syringe full of water from the cup, twist it on the needle and squeeze. Twist the syringe off and do everything again. All this time, water will be coming out of the other filler hole. I'm sure I did this more times than necessary, 'cause just in case it wasn't, I didn't wanna have to feel around for that little hole again.
Getting all the water out ain't so easy. My syringe didn't pull much out. Neither did the rubber boot as described above. So I left the boot on the threaded end and did something else. I held my head back, put the mouthpiece in my mouth a sucked. Now this may sound sort of nasty to you, and it really is. It tasted exactly like the City Water Supply of Liberty, Texas. It took more than one suck, since the pull is on a near vacuum, and air is needed to get the water out of the reservoir. This is easy enough to do. I just puffed on it like I was real serious about smoking a cigarette, and I think this got most of the water out. Mind you, all this was done with the threaded end sticking straight up.
Drying the water out of the wick ain't all that easy, either. I must have used up the better part of a 510 mega charge to dry it out. Water doesn't smoke, so for a while I didn't see anything happening. When the coil finally had a red glow, I released the button and waited a few seconds. Then I pressed the button again and nothing happened. Did the coil burn out? No. The wick recovered in those few seconds and the coil was wet again. Anyhow, I did this several times until the coil began to glow red almost immediately after I pressed the button.
After I filled the reservoir, the taste was sort of blah. It took several minutes of toking before yummy.
Change of subject. I see one quick problem if the filler ring is never removed. The ash and black crud cannot be brushed out very well after a dry burn, so another wash may be needed.
Edit: oops. I forgot to say. I used a heat gun to dry some of the water out before doing the burn.
Mine still had some juice in it, so the first thing I did was try to get it out. Or at least some of it. I removed everything from inside except for the filler ring. Then I put a rubber boot on the threaded end (I called it a rubber boot when I first saw one, but later on found out that many people call it a condom). I put another boot on the mouthpiece end, just far enough to secure it. I held the cartridge with that end down and squeezed the air out of the boot. When I released it, a small amount of juice was pulled down from inside. I squeezed on it several times and eventually filled the boot. Juice was pushed up each time, but it only went into the empty space and not the reservoir. I don't know how much juice was left inside, but when I tried to remove the remainder with a syringe, the needle sucked air. This is not saying much because the tip of the needle was almost 1/2" from the bottom.
I washed it out in the kitchen sink using the syringe and a cup of water. This would have been an easy process, but with my bad eyesight I had to feel around to find the little hole. It's a good thing it wasn't dark.
I could have used the plastic filler tube that comes with the cartridges since it fits my syringe, but I used the needle. Once it was in the hole, I left it there. From then on, everything was quick and easy. Suck the syringe full of water from the cup, twist it on the needle and squeeze. Twist the syringe off and do everything again. All this time, water will be coming out of the other filler hole. I'm sure I did this more times than necessary, 'cause just in case it wasn't, I didn't wanna have to feel around for that little hole again.
Getting all the water out ain't so easy. My syringe didn't pull much out. Neither did the rubber boot as described above. So I left the boot on the threaded end and did something else. I held my head back, put the mouthpiece in my mouth a sucked. Now this may sound sort of nasty to you, and it really is. It tasted exactly like the City Water Supply of Liberty, Texas. It took more than one suck, since the pull is on a near vacuum, and air is needed to get the water out of the reservoir. This is easy enough to do. I just puffed on it like I was real serious about smoking a cigarette, and I think this got most of the water out. Mind you, all this was done with the threaded end sticking straight up.
Drying the water out of the wick ain't all that easy, either. I must have used up the better part of a 510 mega charge to dry it out. Water doesn't smoke, so for a while I didn't see anything happening. When the coil finally had a red glow, I released the button and waited a few seconds. Then I pressed the button again and nothing happened. Did the coil burn out? No. The wick recovered in those few seconds and the coil was wet again. Anyhow, I did this several times until the coil began to glow red almost immediately after I pressed the button.
After I filled the reservoir, the taste was sort of blah. It took several minutes of toking before yummy.
Change of subject. I see one quick problem if the filler ring is never removed. The ash and black crud cannot be brushed out very well after a dry burn, so another wash may be needed.
Edit: oops. I forgot to say. I used a heat gun to dry some of the water out before doing the burn.
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Yeah, my bad.. I was talking about both cartos at the time (plural). I removed the filler ring altogether and just used the middle ring - flat side down. So far it's still working fine... no leaks. The silicone middle ring fits nice and tight so it should work fine. Pulling it out for refilling is a snap.
thank you br, that's the kind of experiences we need to see here. now get that old digital camera out and work on some more info. Someday this will all be put together in a E2 user guide and your last post will be included. PLAY with your camera old timer.
br,
If you don't remove that filler ring, it's almost impossible to get water or juice or anything else out of there. I blew my XL's out last night after rinsing and thought if I let them sit overnight they might dry out.. wrong. They both still had at least 1/2 ml or better of water in them. Before I gave up and pulled the filler ring out I tried to "burn" the water out. The result of that was that the filler ring on the 510 (2.5ohm) got so hot it discolored permanently. It also left scorch marks on the inside of the filler ring where it fits tightly over the ends of the coil/wick.
Off topic but I discovered something else last night: While 3.7v is fine for dry burning the 510 carto, it's a little wimpy when dry burning the 2.8 ohm 808D. I finally threw it on my Little Sister and cranked it up to about 4.8v to get the reaction out of the coil I was looking for.
If you don't remove that filler ring, it's almost impossible to get water or juice or anything else out of there. I blew my XL's out last night after rinsing and thought if I let them sit overnight they might dry out.. wrong. They both still had at least 1/2 ml or better of water in them. Before I gave up and pulled the filler ring out I tried to "burn" the water out. The result of that was that the filler ring on the 510 (2.5ohm) got so hot it discolored permanently. It also left scorch marks on the inside of the filler ring where it fits tightly over the ends of the coil/wick.
Off topic but I discovered something else last night: While 3.7v is fine for dry burning the 510 carto, it's a little wimpy when dry burning the 2.8 ohm 808D. I finally threw it on my Little Sister and cranked it up to about 4.8v to get the reaction out of the coil I was looking for.
You're welcome Charlie. I doubt if many of us here will be leaving the filler ring in, but for right now I am trying to test these things just like they came out of the box.
You might try soaking both silicone seals in VG overnight. I think you will find that they seal better. Then there is no problems removing them for filling or for drying.
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