Finally HERE and Available NOW - GotVapes VORTEX

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these little issues will be addressed, there have been some breakthroughs and we are just looking at getting them implemented and tested. if all goes well then there will major improvements all around. sometimes the fixes are right in front of your face and I guess thats how we advance as a race.lol .

It's good to hear. Much appreciate what you guys do to build products and markets here in the US. Keep up the good work :)
 

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these little issues will be addressed, there have been some breakthroughs and we are just looking at getting them implemented and tested. if all goes well then there will major improvements all around. sometimes the fixes are right in front of your face and I guess thats how we advance as a race.lol .

:laugh::laugh::laugh:Don't worry, people on the forum will come up with fixes for the fixes:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

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I use 90/10 PG/VG TastyVapor. Leaks with all the flavours I use. I noticed the Coffee Caramel gets burnt pretty quick and tastes rancid after 3 tasty puffs. But mostly I have been using Blueberry Cheese Cake.
I have also used 100% PG Ry4 FreedomSmokes.
I have also used JC Tennessee.

batteries, I use 14500 in the Indulgence, Two EgoT batteries and a 1200mah GreenSmokes 510 Battery.

@mpetva Thanks for the PTB tip. Not used those bags since back in the day with standard 510 carts, until the blue foam mod came into play. 8) But already these are starting to require more maintainance, tweaks and mods than I can be bothered with. I may as well get back to tweaking my Genesis Hybrid mod.

I'll keep an eye out for the next batch and see if they are better.
Thanks


Before you give up:
What kind of battery are you using?
Is the juice thicker or thinner?

Without even taking your vortex apart...experiment with using tweezer to gently adjust the inner tube up and down to get the right space around the wicks for your juice. Wicking on these is mostly about 'surface area' of the wick, and juice being pulled over that surface to the coils.

On my eGo batteries, I'm not enjoying the Vortex as much simply because they don't burn quite hot enough at 3.4v for me (although they do still work...eGo seems happier with something around 2.5 or lower in resistance). We do need to keep in mind this batch was threaded and intended for a true 3.7v battery.

A little more heat pulls the juice right through and vapes like a steam train :)

Mine wick and taste much better without the ALF.
 

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these vortexs are great when they dont leak... 4 outta 5 for me leaked please let me know if anyone has a fix to them!!

Two things to consider...
Is the leak coming from around the outside base, or through the hole in the bottom of the Carto?

If it's coming through the base...attach the carto to a battery so you can work with the carto...gently rock and pull the outer sleeve off and wrap the base a couple times with teflon plumber's tape...or mix up a bit of food safe glue using flour or corn starch and smear a bit around the base. Put it back together...problem solved.

If it's comming through the hole in the bottom of the carto...
First, make sure you aren't accidentally dripping in the center tube when you fill. This is very easy to do.

Next, if you happen to have something like an old KR808D-1 carto cap with the little plug built in...put that on the battery end of the carto before you fill it. If you don't have such a carto cap...use something like a match stick or tooth pick to plug the bottom hole while filling. What is happening...is when the top cap is pushed on...it shoves enough air into the tube to force a few drops of juice through the wicks and out the bottom hole. Capping the hole before filling creates a vacume and helps prevent that. Once you have the top plug back on, the vacume is somewhat stablized, it'll be hard to get a free flowing leak started again unless you have super thin liquid.

Before putting it on your battery...give the battery end a good forceful blow...with the mouthpiece end held to tissue or something. That helps make sure the atty isn't flooded, and insures no gurgling if a little bit of juice did force through when putting the cap on and removing what ever you plugged the battery end of the Carto with while filling.

If it still leaks through the middle...carefully remove the top cap, and push on the inner tube with something like a pencil or pen. Sometimes the tip cap fits tightly enough around the inner tube that it pulls the center tube up a bit leaving too much room around the wicks. Pushing that back down closes that gap some.

If it still leaks after all this...the wicks are not aligned properly. You can pull the carto apart, take out the filler paper and throw it away, take off the center tube, fluff the wicks gently and reseat it all back together. You'll see how it works...two little wick areas...thicker juices need more room...thinner juices you want the center tube pushed closer to them.

Good luck and let us know how it goes :)
 
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Two things to consider...
Is the leak coming from around the outside base, or through the hole in the bottom of the Carto?

If it's coming through the base...attach the carto to a battery so you can work with the carto...gently rock and pull the outer sleeve off and wrap the base a couple times with teflon plumber's tape............truncated for brevity.......

Nice write-up Credo.
 

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We need to hire Credo to do some techincal writing for us : )

Good job Credo, thanks for the assist you give us on the forum...

Thanks...

I could use the work :)
I can build really nice computer based learning modules ;)

I just need to get a decent camera so I can show folks what the heck I'm talking about LOL...the one I have is great, but stopped working with the computer around Windows 95 (no current drivers)...go figure. After plunking down $230 for a Darwin (which I'm loving btw), I'll have to wait a month or so on a new Camera ;)

At any rate...I'll tinker with some interactive modules when I get some time.
 
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Two things to consider...
Is the leak coming from around the outside base, or through the hole in the bottom of the Carto?

If it's coming through the base...attach the carto to a battery so you can work with the carto...gently rock and pull the outer sleeve off and wrap the base a couple times with teflon plumber's tape...or mix up a bit of food safe glue using flour or corn starch and smear a bit around the base. Put it back together...problem solved.

If it's comming through the hole in the bottom of the carto...
First, make sure you aren't accidentally dripping in the center tube when you fill. This is very easy to do.

Next, if you happen to have something like an old KR808D-1 carto cap with the little plug built in...put that on the battery end of the carto before you fill it. If you don't have such a carto cap...use something like a match stick or tooth pick to plug the bottom hole while filling. What is happening...is when the top cap is pushed on...it shoves enough air into the tube to force a few drops of juice through the wicks and out the bottom hole. Capping the hole before filling creates a vacume and helps prevent that. Once you have the top plug back on, the vacume is somewhat stablized, it'll be hard to get a free flowing leak started again unless you have super thin liquid.

Before putting it on your battery...give the battery end a good forceful blow...with the mouthpiece end held to tissue or something. That helps make sure the atty isn't flooded, and insures no gurgling if a little bit of juice did force through when putting the cap on and removing what ever you plugged the battery end of the Carto with while filling.

If it still leaks through the middle...carefully remove the top cap, and push on the inner tube with something like a pencil or pen. Sometimes the tip cap fits tightly enough around the inner tube that it pulls the center tube up a bit leaving too much room around the wicks. Pushing that back down closes that gap some.

If it still leaks after all this...the wicks are not aligned properly. You can pull the carto apart, take out the filler paper and throw it away, take off the center tube, fluff the wicks gently and reseat it all back together. You'll see how it works...two little wick areas...thicker juices need more room...thinner juices you want the center tube pushed closer to them.

Good luck and let us know how it goes :)

thanks credo that was really helpful! the leak IS coming from the bottom of the carto but this is the weird part... when im using the original plug that came with it there is no leak but when i used the driptip that i got from gotvapes also thats when the leaking happens!
 

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I am having a little bit of an issue with the Teflon tape. It seals up the outer tube good but it seems to allow it spin rather freely and come off easier. Using a syringe tube may be my only fix for this as it fits nice and snug without anything needed to seal it up.

Using cornstarch paste worked well but discolored from the juice and just didn't look very good. Also taking it apart and reassembling again was a hassle.

I may have found a replacement for the center cup. The cap from an 18 Gauge needle looks like it might work good. I am trying to figure out a good way to make the slits for the wicks evenly with a dremel but it pretty hard to do free hand and get an accurate cut. The size and position of these slits are very critical for getting it to work correctly. Also it looks like I may have to heat it up a bit to get it to expand enough to slip on but I can't get that far until I get the slits figured out.

These things are a tinkerers dream as there are many things you can do with and to them...:facepalm:That sure didn't sound right....:p
 

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If it's comming through the hole in the bottom of the carto...

Also make sure it's not just condensate that is coming out. Mine build up quite a bit in the cup and if I stand them up it will eventually make it's way out the center hole and through what I believe is a siphoning effect continue to pull more juice out through the wick.
 

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if you use mighty tape it will never unravel and binds to itself also the new Gotvapes modders eco glue(100% safe and edible) will be up soon for those who want to tinker around. alot of the issue i think will be resolved soon enough, everyone feedback helped very much along with my tinkering to come up with super simple solutions and alleviate almost every issue that was spoken of.
 

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thanks credo that was really helpful! the leak IS coming from the bottom of the carto but this is the weird part... when im using the original plug that came with it there is no leak but when i used the driptip that i got from gotvapes also thats when the leaking happens!

Ah Ha!
Too much air flow....
If you want to use a drip tip try this....

Among all your e-cig junk...do you have any of those little silicon rings? CE2's have them as a leak barrier over the two little fill holes, and some of the prefilled regular polyfill cartos also put one right on top of the polyfiller as well (they do that to make it seem like they won't hold but a couple of drops if you try to refill them...so you'll buy more).

If you do...put a pin hole in one (so it'll be easier to dig out later), and pop that in first, then put your drip tip over that.

If you don't have such a ring laying around, you can make one...but at the sacrafice of one of your Vortex tips.

Take a razor or box cutter. Cut the bottom half off of your Vortex mouth-tip. Viola! You have a good seal that won't let air past....and a vacum keeps your juice inside the carto much much better.

Now put that ring in, then push your drip tip in.

See...the ALF filler was put in at the last minute as they realized that thin juices could leak if too much air gets in the tube. Lots of people are taking the filler out...which makes it even more prone to the kind of leak you're having. A good air tight seal at the top makes it much much harder for these things to leak on you.

Finally......if you have some super thin juice (some folks are putting water or alcohol in their juices to give them a little more throat hit...or otherwise alter the flavor)....
If you fluff the tips of the wicks out slightly with a needle so they're almost touching the edges of the wick slots on inner tube...that'll usually stop any leaking.

Or...you can replace that filler stuff with some tea bag material (Pyramid Tea Bags, the nylon kind...not the paper kind). That stuff wicks great and also stops leaks. You can wash PTB filler and use it over and over again.....
 
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I am having a little bit of an issue with the Teflon tape. It seals up the outer tube good but it seems to allow it spin rather freely and come off easier. Using a syringe tube may be my only fix for this as it fits nice and snug without anything needed to seal it up.

Using cornstarch paste worked well but discolored from the juice and just didn't look very good. Also taking it apart and reassembling again was a hassle.

I may have found a replacement for the center cup. The cap from an 18 Gauge needle looks like it might work good. I am trying to figure out a good way to make the slits for the wicks evenly with a dremel but it pretty hard to do free hand and get an accurate cut. The size and position of these slits are very critical for getting it to work correctly. Also it looks like I may have to heat it up a bit to get it to expand enough to slip on but I can't get that far until I get the slits figured out.

These things are a tinkerers dream as there are many things you can do with and to them...:facepalm:That sure didn't sound right....:p

How many wraps of TTFT tape are you using?
I put two or three good wraps on mine...the density creates a tighter wedge. I find I can usually take it apart and put it back together a few times before I need to redo the seal.
 

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How many wraps of TTFT tape are you using?
I put two or three good wraps on mine...the density creates a tighter wedge. I find I can usually take it apart and put it back together a few times before I need to redo the seal.

If I use more than 2 wraps the tube just cuts it and pushes it down to the bottom. The wife just brought home a bunch of syringes (she works in a pharmacy) So I'm just going to make new tubes for all of them. The tips fit tighter also so it's better all the way around.

I just put an order in with DigiKey so I can make a VV mod to really make these preform at their peak...

Also I got a great idea from a previous post... I am going to put an led inside the inner cup to light the whole thing up. You just have to pull the center contact out and slide the contact of the LED on each side of the insulator. I already tested one without a resistor and it worked fine. You will want to twist the leads a little so the flattest part lays along the metal, or solder fine wire leads to go into the connector so as not to bind or cut the insulator.

Edit: I have only been vaping for a month and I am already way to into this crap. I think there is a curse that comes with vaping...:blink:
 
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I just got some vortices from an ECF member, and I gotta say I love these things right out of the pack. They look cool, minus the tape, and i haven't had any leaking problems.

I've never been able to tolerate a cartomizer, even dual coil. They just taste dry and lifeless compared to dripping. But the vortex really pulls it off. I have a variable voltage box, and these things just belt out the vapor.

And the flavor is just top notch, because it's essentially a debridged atomizer with a clear vapor path to the tip, and there's really no way to improve-- Other than installing a slightly larger inner tube, perhaps.

So i'm excited to see some mods develop....
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hey i got the harlequin drip tip too :) kewl!!!!!

I polished it with toothpaste and a paper towel-- looks AMAZING! the pink has a mother-of-pearl sort of sheen, and the green is total ectoplasm.

Plus the inner diameter of the tip seems perfect for the vortex. there seems be no leaking, even if i sit the thing upside down
 
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