Flavour extraction by soaking in water
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Hello devilfish..
Here is how i did it.
1) In a small bottle i put Propylene Glycol 90% and 10 % water. I shook this well so that the water was mixed with PG. (The solution looked cloudy after this)
2) I got "Gudang Garam International" cigarette and pulled out all the tobacco from one cigarette and put it in the bottle for about 2 days... I shook the bottle every now and then.
3) I take this liquid and mix it with glycerin/PG and put it in the cartridge.
You can use some flavour with it as well. It works pretty good with Vanilla and coffee flavor.
I tried this with normal tobacco and it tasted horrible (like raw tobacco). Its just this perticular brand "Gudang Garam International" cigarette tobacco that works.. If you are in asia, i am sure you should find the brand at local stores. One pack would last a year
HTH . cheers.
okie kinda confuse here
summary take the cig cut mix with glycerin/PG and abit of water
than left it for 2 days?
hey fish, yeah VG should work as well. why dont u try it out and post here. and i suggest u take some help from someone who knows english at your office and get a clear idea of the procedure. I cant explain better than what i have already done..
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because u mention u putPropylene Glycol
than another bottle is the tobacco mix with water?
than mix it with glycerin/PG
so in the first place u mix the tobacco with proplyene glycol and water
than mix with glycerin??
so propylene glycol and glycerin is two different stuffs?
Cashmere: I brewed one this afternoon and, so far, I like the taste.
To start, I smoked 10 Kahlua cigars over the past 10 days and saved the unsmoked .... ends. I cut off the ash part, and put the tobacco pieces in a coffee bean grinder and chopped for about five seconds. Instant "pipe" size tobacco.
I put that in my little three-inch pot, covered the tobacco with water, and simmered on the stove for two hours. Major cigar stink in the house as it cooked!
Poured that through a coffee filter into a jar. Then took a vial and filled it halfway with 24mg commercial E-Liquid. Then one full eyedropper of my cigar liquid. Then another eyedropper of Bickford Kahlua extract. Very powerful stuff. Smooth with a major hit.
I'm not finished with this, however. I probably have 30ml of cigar liquid left over (and about 50ml of pipe tobacco liquid). I'll mix and blend to get what I want in the way of taste. I need to put in some vegetable glycerine for viscosity and sweetness of vapor.
Right now, the cigar mixture leaves quite an aftertaste, much like puffing a real cigar.
P.S. The leftover cigar tobacco is drying now, and I plan to spray it with Bickford Kahlua, mix it with a burley pipe tobacco and puff it in my pipe.
To start, I smoked 10 Kahlua cigars over the past 10 days and saved the unsmoked .... ends. I cut off the ash part, and put the tobacco pieces in a coffee bean grinder and chopped for about five seconds. Instant "pipe" size tobacco.
I put that in my little three-inch pot, covered the tobacco with water, and simmered on the stove for two hours. Major cigar stink in the house as it cooked!
Poured that through a coffee filter into a jar. Then took a vial and filled it halfway with 24mg commercial E-Liquid. Then one full eyedropper of my cigar liquid. Then another eyedropper of Bickford Kahlua extract. Very powerful stuff. Smooth with a major hit.
I'm not finished with this, however. I probably have 30ml of cigar liquid left over (and about 50ml of pipe tobacco liquid). I'll mix and blend to get what I want in the way of taste. I need to put in some vegetable glycerine for viscosity and sweetness of vapor.
Right now, the cigar mixture leaves quite an aftertaste, much like puffing a real cigar.
P.S. The leftover cigar tobacco is drying now, and I plan to spray it with Bickford Kahlua, mix it with a burley pipe tobacco and puff it in my pipe.
that means is overall is use the tabaco mix with glycerin and abit of water that it
left for 2 days and puff the way ...
UPdate is it this?
Detailed Description: Glycerin can be used for moisturising dry and chapped skin, especially of the hands. Information: Contains: Glycerin BP Dosage: Apply after washing hands or as frequently as required. Cautionary Instruction: Shake well before use. Keep out of reach of children. Store in a cool, dry place
now is the confusing part ,
so use which one?Propylene Glycol or Glycerin or use both to soak together with the tabaco ??
Detailed Description: Glycerin can be used for moisturising dry and chapped skin, especially of the hands. Information: Contains: Glycerin BP Dosage: Apply after washing hands or as frequently as required. Cautionary Instruction: Shake well before use. Keep out of reach of children. Store in a cool, dry place
now is the confusing part ,
so use which one?Propylene Glycol or Glycerin or use both to soak together with the tabaco ??
Devilfish, I'm going to let someone else answer you -- because soaking stuff is not the way I do it. I tried soaking tobacco with glycerine and the tobacco just absorbed the glycerine, which was then very difficult or impossible to recover. It was a failed experiment, as far as I'm concerned. The only thing to soak in glycerine is a vanilla bean. That will yield a tasty glycerine base.
I COOK the tobacco in water. No PG, no glycerine. Filter out the particulates as best you can and pour that cooked liquid into a jar. Use it as one ingredient for the final mix. Mix it with PG or VG or regular E-Liquid in small amounts at first.
I have no idea what you'll get other than a soggy mess of useless tobacco if you do it any other way. In my opinion, from my many experiments, it is best to consider each ingredient individually until a final fluid mix is made. Do not put VG or PG or anything else with the tobacco itself. Nicotine is soluable in WATER. That's all you need to get the flavor of tobacco for a mix.
As the heading here says ... you're doing this at your own risk.
I COOK the tobacco in water. No PG, no glycerine. Filter out the particulates as best you can and pour that cooked liquid into a jar. Use it as one ingredient for the final mix. Mix it with PG or VG or regular E-Liquid in small amounts at first.
I have no idea what you'll get other than a soggy mess of useless tobacco if you do it any other way. In my opinion, from my many experiments, it is best to consider each ingredient individually until a final fluid mix is made. Do not put VG or PG or anything else with the tobacco itself. Nicotine is soluable in WATER. That's all you need to get the flavor of tobacco for a mix.
As the heading here says ... you're doing this at your own risk.
thanks for some guidancehmm what i saw Threshold post
2) I got "Gudang Garam International" cigarette and pulled out all the tobacco from one cigarette and put it in the bottle for about 2 days... I shook the bottle every now and then.
so put in the bottle? how to get the liquid?this is the part I confuse too
sorry my english is poor ...
paging CaSHMeRe and Threshold
to calify this ?
" I got "Gudang Garam International" cigarette and pulled out all the tobacco from one cigarette and put it in the bottle for about 2 days"
what I confuse here is , the tobacco is pulled out and put in the bottle.
mix with Glycerin? is it?and left it for 2 days?
okie is it okie just use Glycerin?
or also need PG?
thanks .
sorry bob I just curious how they did itand for ur case I know u cook it and get the liquid
rite
The problem is that the tobacco will soak up the PG or VG liquid. REALLY soak it up, like a sponge. Now ... how do you get the flavored PG or VG out of the tobacco? Squeeze? Won't get much. Let it drip? Hell will freeze over first. That's why it's best to use water. You can even let the tobacco sit in water for days and then filter/strain out the tobacco. PG and VG are so thick that they don't easily come out of the tobacco.
If you've ever watched a cigarette you flipped into water, you know how fast it stains the water yellow, then dark brown. Same with making fluid. That stain does have some nicotine in it, since nicotine is water soluble, and some flavor of the tobacco you use.
That's the fluid you mix with PG or VG to get the e-smoking liquid.
If you've ever watched a cigarette you flipped into water, you know how fast it stains the water yellow, then dark brown. Same with making fluid. That stain does have some nicotine in it, since nicotine is water soluble, and some flavor of the tobacco you use.
That's the fluid you mix with PG or VG to get the e-smoking liquid.
sorry bob , so soak the tobacoco with water?but only for 2 days at most ?
Yes. You can do it that way. Or you can simmer it on the stove for about two hours (very low heat, no boiling).
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