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How are you preparing for the vapocalypse?
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I'm with you. I'm not into DIY at all but I've been looking into getting some nic base just to have in case. I found a concentrate of my favorite flavor & it turns out it's not a "recipe" but just 1 concentrate so I feel ok about doing my own if I need to.
I don't know if you have this or not, but there's a program called juice Me Up that you can download (it's free; go check the eliquids forum to find it. That's where I got it but it was a while ago) that's helpful for doing the math for you so you don't have to (you can add in flavoring percentage and pg/vg ratio, nic base, etc.)
As far as the rest, I'm stocking up on REO bottles & other parts that might need to be replaced, and I have a lot of Kanthal so I can't see myself running out of that any time soon. Perhaps I'll get a few extras of my favorite rda too.
So with my current needs, pg/vg and nic ratios, what kind of nic base would be my starting point? Do you get it with that ratio already mixed? Then add the flavoring? Or worse comes to worse (don't like many flavors at all) just vape unflavored. That could potentially work for me. Simple tastes for simple minds and all that
So with my current needs, pg/vg and nic ratios, what kind of nic base would be my starting point? Do you get it with that ratio already mixed? Then add the flavoring? Or worse comes to worse (don't like many flavors at all) just vape unflavored. That could potentially work for me. Simple tastes for simple minds and all that
I do know that it's best to store the nic base on it's own and then add the pg/vg when you're ready to mix batches.
The base does come in a PG or VG base (I think you can also get it mixed but I don't remember which source does this) but it's a small amount of the pg/vg.
For you, dear, I have sympathy.
I would get 100 mg base in straight PG. Then to make your 70/30 @ 5mg, you use 5% nic base, 65% PG, 30%VG. Easy peasy.
Why PG base rather than VG? Unless you have a problem with PG and wish to avoid it entirely, I think it's a better choice for long term storage. The problem with VG is that it really doesn't mix well with nic because it's too thick, so at least some vendors end up adding water to it to thin it, but almost none of them disclose how much. I also suspect that water increases the oxygen carrying ability of the base, and for long term storage, oxygen is your enemy.
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I've gotten pre-mix in my preferred ratio and strength (30% PG, 70% VG, 15 mg), but it would take up too much space in the freezer to store a few decades worth of that.
I don't bother accounting for flavors in the strength or mix, but the flavors I use generally don't require more than 5%. That means my nominal 15 mg/ml gets cut to 14.5 mg/ml. Not a significant difference. Assume the flavoring is all PG, and my 70% VG gets reduced to something closer to 65%. No big deal. If I were using weak flavors that required 20%, then I might bother accounting for them.
No, provided you don't over-analyze it, it's really easy.
the DIY folks here on ECF are prepared to help any vapers who want to learn how to become eLiquid self sufficient.
we got you covered Robino1 ... it's the vapers who don't know what could be coming, them, we won't be able to help much.
we got you covered Robino1 ... it's the vapers who don't know what could be coming, them, we won't be able to help much.
So let's see... 1 liter is 1000ml. 100mg/ml strength means a liter contains 100000 mg of nicotine.
I vape about 4ml of 6mg a day. 4 x 6 = 24 mg of nic a day. A liter bottle of 100mg will last me 100000 / 24 = 4166 days. Or 11 years. I should be good for a while.
I think we'll have some warning before the hammer comes down on hardware, but if I'm wrong I have mechs and RDAs that should last a good long time. In addition to my everyday isticks, MVPs and kayfuns.
I vape about 4ml of 6mg a day. 4 x 6 = 24 mg of nic a day. A liter bottle of 100mg will last me 100000 / 24 = 4166 days. Or 11 years. I should be good for a while.
I think we'll have some warning before the hammer comes down on hardware, but if I'm wrong I have mechs and RDAs that should last a good long time. In addition to my everyday isticks, MVPs and kayfuns.
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Looks like I will be visiting the DIY forum
This sucks
Get on down there with us. It's lot's of fun and we'll help get rid of that pesky disposable cash so you don't have to worry about it anymore!
So with my current needs, pg/vg and nic ratios, what kind of nic base would be my starting point? Do you get it with that ratio already mixed? Then add the flavoring? Or worse comes to worse (don't like many flavors at all) just vape unflavored. That could potentially work for me. Simple tastes for simple minds and all that
Sorry Robin, my net connection wigged out for a bit.
Regardless awesome Rossum has it covered, I agree with all he said as good advice even not accounting for flavors. (I don't either for the same reason)
Its fun its easy its safe its cheap. <nods>
You know we do and it will be really easy for you to get the information you need to make juice
So crunching a couple of numbers (with the help of eJuice Me Up
), if you buy one liter of 100 mg/ml nic base, it will make pretty close to 20 liters (20,000 ml) of 5 mg/ml juice.If you vape 5 ml a day, 20,000 ml total/5 ml per day = 4,000 days. Divide 4,000 days by 365 days per year = 10.96 years.
I also suggest you buy the nic base in 100% PG because I believe PG will last longer than VG.
So with my current needs, pg/vg and nic ratios, what kind of nic base would be my starting point? Do you get it with that ratio already mixed? Then add the flavoring? Or worse comes to worse (don't like many flavors at all) just vape unflavored. That could potentially work for me. Simple tastes for simple minds and all that
Mixing to 70% PG and 5 mg nic you can even use 100% VG base at 48 mg/ml nic, but I would still go with the 100% PG base if I had the choice.
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I've gotten pre-mix in my preferred ratio and strength (30% PG, 70% VG, 15 mg), but it would take up too much space in the freezer to store a few decades worth of that.
I don't bother accounting for flavors in the strength or mix, but the flavors I use generally don't require more than 5%. That means my nominal 15 mg/ml gets cut to 14.5 mg/ml. Not a significant difference. Assume the flavoring is all PG, and my 70% VG gets reduced to something closer to 65%. No big deal. If I were using weak flavors that required 20%, then I might bother accounting for them.
No, provided you don't over-analyze it, it's really easy.
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and those that come after us...those are the ones that I worry about the most Thank you for the invite!
You know we do and it will be really easy for you to get the information you need to make juice
So crunching a couple of numbers (with the help of eJuice Me Up
If you vape 5 ml a day, 20,000 ml total/5 ml per day = 4,000 days. Divide 4,000 days by 365 days per year = 10.96 years.
I also suggest you buy the nic base in 100% PG because I believe PG will last longer than VG.
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I think the PG base would be best for me. PG doesn't cause me any problems...so far LOL
I think what is more important then PG or VG base; storing in glass containers and freezing for long term storage.
I have a chest freezer so storage is not a problem. Even have a spot all picked out
Can it be ordered in small enough bottles (glass) where I don't have to transfer and just pop the bottles into the freezer?
Myself and a number a friends have stopped smoking cigarettes by vaping. I don't see how anyone with a brain can think banning it is a good thing.
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