How are you preparing for the vapocalypse?
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I started collecting some nice mechanical mods about 3 years ago for such a time as this. Yeah, it's crazy...Oregon is 100% Euthansia and yet they're against life-saving vaping? I think the pro-death mentality prevails. Nothing much makes sense in our nation any more.
I've just stockpiled 5 Clouper Mini's. That's about $150 worth of the best little mod I've ever experienced. Far less than I've paid for single mods in the past. I have some very nice attys that I rebuild and tons of the juice I like best. I could also do w/o nic and would prolly get along just fine with PG/VG. But flavors are easy to get. Anyhow, I'm ready for the big-ban.
But I woudn't put it past our present government to storm our houses and confiscate all our guns and vape stuff. If they can make it past my front door.
Truth. It's entirely based on looks like a duck, talks like a duck, walks like a duck type of mentality. And a very easy sell to the uninformed. With the uninformed being just about everybody.
The real unforgivable crime with tobacco was allowing cigarette companies to take a natural leaf and engineer it into a chemically perfect addiction bomb. With a grip so strong that almost nothing can stop the relentless pull when trying to get away from it. Cigarettes are distinctly different than tobacco leaves.
I deeply wanted to quit and I did on a dime on June `18th, 2013. During the first couple weeks I suffered the "hollow" feeling even when getting more nic than I needed. That same hollow feeling during the transition can be pretty strong for some folks. WTA seems to help. So does dual use unfortunately. I took the nutritional supplement 5HTP and it worked really well. I'm pretty sure I have serotonin imbalance inherited in my genes. Very minor but probably one of the reasons I started smoking in the first place. Cigs definitely mess with serotonin. It's proven.
I quit smoking for 2 years back around 2003 by using wellbutrin to get off them. Worked almost too easy. After a month I basically forgot I smoked. The side effects were awful though. My sleep was all messed up. Dreams were crazy. Headaches often. Especially in the evening. I couldn't wait to stop taking it. I did after 8 weeks instead of 12 and managed to stay smoke free but the grip was always tugging and I couldn't shake the "hollow feeling". I was irritable more often than I was used to and my fuse was short (I virtually have no temper at all so my friends and family didn't like those couple of years. lol).
I relapsed with ease but finally found a way out back in 13. I'm not a doctor so my advice is nothing more than anecdotal but for anyone who suffers the nagging "hollow" feeling while vaping may consider trying 5htp. I take 100mg/day and my overall mood is always right on with my usual laid back self.
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I just have visions of needing to include my nicotine base stash in my will. It just might become a valuable asset.
Robin ******** in Florida
I started collecting some nice mechanical mods about 3 years ago for such a time as this. Yeah, it's crazy...Oregon is 100% Euthansia and yet they're against life-saving vaping? I think the pro-death mentality prevails. Nothing much makes sense in our nation any more.
I've just stockpiled 5 Clouper Mini's. That's about $150 worth of the best little mod I've ever experienced. Far less than I've paid for single mods in the past. I have some very nice attys that I rebuild and tons of the juice I like best. I could also do w/o nic and would prolly get along just fine with PG/VG. But flavors are easy to get. Anyhow, I'm ready for the big-ban.
Hmm makes you wonder. Are they helping those that get their supposed sickness from smoking to end the the drawn out death sooner? Or are they helping to keep the supposed smokers around to say look how our support of euthanasia is helping these poor souls ?
I know, I see things in a twisted way.
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I worked out the math for me, if I bought just 120ml of 100mg/ml liquid, that would last me for about 400 days - assuming 6ml per day at 5mg nic...so assuming I drop down in nic at some point, 1L of base liquid would last me for a good long while. It would, of course, require me to find my "Perfect ADV" so in the process I'd have to use more liquid, but still - that's a long time for me. And heck, MFS will sell you 50L of 100mg/ml base...there you would definitely need to will it to someone after you die...the 55 gallon drum would have to be willed to many people. lol.
I worry about not having access to what I need to stay away from analogs if the prohibitionists have their way (which it looks like things are moving in that direction). I have 2 eGos, 1 mech mod, a REO Grand, a 20w iStick, and a VF 40w Clone...5 RDA's plus a ton of tanks and coils. If SHTF, I know I would be better off with Mechs...ok, so buy a few more mechs, some extra coils, some extra kanthal and a few extra batteries. Learn to rebuild the Subtank OCC heads...learn to rebuild the Kanger new dual coil heads...in theory I would be set by buying some nic base (say 2L) and getting a micro-fridge (which wouldn't be a bad idea anyways...then Dad would stop taking my beer and I'd already have the nic base in storage...) to store the nic.
If BT was really smart, they would pick up the market on the unflavored base liquid and stop trying to cut us vapers out all together - limit sales to the public to say 36mg/ml (or around there) and only sell 60ml bottles - or if they're really mean, 30ml bottles. They would rake in the big bucks. Of course, throwing $$$ to congress makes a ton of sense, too. [/Sarcasm]
If the government was smart, they would do a "reasonable" tax, collect the proceeds, and let us alone.
I don't know if I see either BT or the government being smart or reasonable, though...
I worry about not having access to what I need to stay away from analogs if the prohibitionists have their way (which it looks like things are moving in that direction). I have 2 eGos, 1 mech mod, a REO Grand, a 20w iStick, and a VF 40w Clone...5 RDA's plus a ton of tanks and coils. If SHTF, I know I would be better off with Mechs...ok, so buy a few more mechs, some extra coils, some extra kanthal and a few extra batteries. Learn to rebuild the Subtank OCC heads...learn to rebuild the Kanger new dual coil heads...in theory I would be set by buying some nic base (say 2L) and getting a micro-fridge (which wouldn't be a bad idea anyways...then Dad would stop taking my beer and I'd already have the nic base in storage...) to store the nic.
If BT was really smart, they would pick up the market on the unflavored base liquid and stop trying to cut us vapers out all together - limit sales to the public to say 36mg/ml (or around there) and only sell 60ml bottles - or if they're really mean, 30ml bottles. They would rake in the big bucks. Of course, throwing $$$ to congress makes a ton of sense, too. [/Sarcasm]
If the government was smart, they would do a "reasonable" tax, collect the proceeds, and let us alone.
I don't know if I see either BT or the government being smart or reasonable, though...
Decided to start stockpiling. Apart from one vendor fighting to make amendments, the UK legislation will come into effect next year. I'm only surprised it didn't happen sooner. As soon as I saw billboards and TV ads for cigalikes I knew the surface tension had been broken. Though I'm sure that what you want will always be available either from grey imports from China or from black markets, I'd like to get a good supply of quality matériel under my belt.
I've wrote about this before in another forum, but I'll just repeat it here. South Korea (where I used to live) is crazy on vaping regulations. People pay 40 cents per mL of any nicotine containing e juice as tax. (this was a year ago, and I heard the tax went up even more) Online purchase of e liquid is strictly prohibited, and DIYing e juice is illegal also. Vapers in South Korea are furious of course, but really, there's nothing they can do since all the laws had been passed. ....., I can't believe I have to experience all that here in America too.
Well, you will have to experience all of the above and be shunned by society if you don't submit. But remember, and this will make you feel much better, it is for your own good and the good of the collective as has been decided for you by those who are smarter than you and are much more caring than you.
Never trust those who seek to govern you.
Does anyone have any reliable data on how long you can preserve VG/PG for in a freezer?
You do not need to stockpile pg or VG both have other uses that will mean you can buy them freely stock up on nic base that's where the hammer will fall.
Doh...
Disregard my answer. This is correct. I somehow read pg/vg as pg/vg Nic Base.
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Well FDA taking vaping so seriously and certain States and Provinces treating vapors the same as smokers. Since I started vaping , ive been doing 500 pushups every day and currently I can do them in just 12 minutes , on top of that I can run 3 times the distance when I use to smoke tobacco and i dont feel like .... all the time . I also quit drinking alchohol , pop and drugs . I eat healthy and I feel better than ever . I dont think that vaping has any major health risks .
And yet again they want to make it illegal ? How stupid can that be ? How about they make tobacco illegal ? Oh wait they are getting paid by the tobaco companies so why would they , those ffing .......s ,
And yet again they want to make it illegal ? How stupid can that be ? How about they make tobacco illegal ? Oh wait they are getting paid by the tobaco companies so why would they , those ffing .......s ,
I think the reason vaping doesn't have traction in the political world is because it isn't controlled by a few large company's that can grease the wheels with money, it's hundreds or thousands of small company's that have created a large industry and in typical fashion our politicians are so blinkered they now only see the large company. I fully expect them to try and kill off vaping and I fully expect them to fail miserably it's too big now they can make it harder but it is beyond them to kill now, think prohibition as that's the route I see ahead for vaping in twenty years or so people will be looking back at now and wonder how we ended up with such idiots for legislator's.
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