How are you preparing for the vapocalypse?
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what worries me is that some think in this day and age simply stockpiling
certain things like nic base and whatever they have on there list will be
ample protection from the excesses of over regulation and taxation.
i don't think the FDA is going to leave any horses out of the barn this
time around. they will simply make the possession of any materials
intended for the use in making non-FDA approved juice or non-FDA
approved e-cig components illegal. if worse comes to worse i am
willing to bet they will conduct programs where you can turn in
your ENDS(non-FDA approved electronic nicotine delivery systems)
and contraband juice prosecution free.
regards
mike
certain things like nic base and whatever they have on there list will be
ample protection from the excesses of over regulation and taxation.
i don't think the FDA is going to leave any horses out of the barn this
time around. they will simply make the possession of any materials
intended for the use in making non-FDA approved juice or non-FDA
approved e-cig components illegal. if worse comes to worse i am
willing to bet they will conduct programs where you can turn in
your ENDS(non-FDA approved electronic nicotine delivery systems)
and contraband juice prosecution free.
regards
mike
what worries me is that some think in this day and age simply stockpiling
certain things like nic base and whatever they have on there list will be
ample protection from the excesses of over regulation and taxation.
i don't think the FDA is going to leave any horses out of the barn this
time around. they will simply make the possession of any materials
intended for the use in making non-FDA approved juice or non-FDA
approved e-cig components illegal. if worse comes to worse i am
willing to bet they will conduct programs where you can turn in
your ENDS(non-FDA approved electronic nicotine delivery systems)
and contraband juice prosecution free.
regards
mike
In my most extreme moments, I have considered the dissolution of my marriage which would include a separation agreement that was a 90/10 split of assets with the former spouse having the 90. Then, when the feds arrive at my now meager doorstep seeking to enforce the good intentions of the ruling class, I will be free to do whatever I choose to do without causing her to suffer for my discontent with the government.
In my less extreme moments, I simply am pleased that I am old and won't be forced to both watch and live for long in the totalitarian state into which we are now devolving.
Yep, only way I know to use that mod. I understand stacking is a risk and I followed all related precautions and am fully versed in battery safety. In any case, moot point as I received a couple of iStick 50's this past Saturday. I'm absolutely thrilled with it as is my 75 year old mother who got the other one!
I'm still curious as to why you can't use your 510's on a standard 3.7v mech mod if it came to that. Are they all 3 ohms and up like mine?
Pg and VG are widely used products that will never be banned.
PG is used in everything from high end food flavorings to iv drugs.
It will never be banned. Same with VG, widely used and impossible to ban.
MAYBE they ban sales of liquid Nicotine, but that's not an easy task banning liquid nic and allowing big tobacco to stay compliant, so I doubt we will see it any time soon.
Dedicated e cigs may be regulated, but raw materials will never go away.
They are commonplace items that are heavily used.
PG is used in everything from high end food flavorings to iv drugs.
It will never be banned. Same with VG, widely used and impossible to ban.
MAYBE they ban sales of liquid Nicotine, but that's not an easy task banning liquid nic and allowing big tobacco to stay compliant, so I doubt we will see it any time soon.
Dedicated e cigs may be regulated, but raw materials will never go away.
They are commonplace items that are heavily used.
if you intend to use it to make e-juice the answer is,yes of course.
regards
mike
they can't ban the items.they can ban the intended use.
this concept is already in use in law enforcement when
it comes to other activities we can't mention here.
regards
mike
VG is the easiest of all. Not illegal but restricted. With DHS enforcing it.
I'd rather stock on antifreeze.
Common sense should never be used in any discussion of what government may/may not do, including but not limited to regulation.
Banning ingredients? Probably not. Licensing purchasers of said ingredients?????
If they don't like/want it, they will find a way.
Banning ingredients? Probably not. Licensing purchasers of said ingredients?????
If they don't like/want it, they will find a way.
Being older than dirt this isn't my first rodeo and for vaping the future I foresee is quite bleak. For the U.S., federal and state governments smell a fresh revenue source while BT and BP see us as a threat to their profit margins, a very formidable coalition of opposition indeed. The endless negative news stories spewing junk science and wild claims about the hazards of vaping are a telling sign of where the nation is heading on this issue.
Over the next 5 - 7 years I expect to see wave after wave of increasingly heavy regulations, restrictions and....taxes. Vaping will ultimately be demonized to the point it will be considered as bad as smoking so expect total "bans" in most public places and even in some areas where smoking is allowed. Realistically, the only vaping items that can be taxed, restricted or controlled are * liquid nic *, RBAs, certain mods and vendor made juice. Keep your eye on liquid nic because it will be the easiest for them to tax and control, the choke point. Meanwhile, batteries, diy flavorings, PG, VG, wick material and resistance wire wont be a concern because these items are used in/for other applications and are readily available through other industries/sources other than vape shops.
Personally, I've stockpiled enough liquid nic, RBA's, Mech mods and spare parts to last for decades. Being a NET fan and avid home extractor there is very little the government can do that will impact my current day to day routine in the slightest. Prudent planning/prepping today can keep you from being a remorseful, penniless victim tomorrow.
Over the next 5 - 7 years I expect to see wave after wave of increasingly heavy regulations, restrictions and....taxes. Vaping will ultimately be demonized to the point it will be considered as bad as smoking so expect total "bans" in most public places and even in some areas where smoking is allowed. Realistically, the only vaping items that can be taxed, restricted or controlled are * liquid nic *, RBAs, certain mods and vendor made juice. Keep your eye on liquid nic because it will be the easiest for them to tax and control, the choke point. Meanwhile, batteries, diy flavorings, PG, VG, wick material and resistance wire wont be a concern because these items are used in/for other applications and are readily available through other industries/sources other than vape shops.
Personally, I've stockpiled enough liquid nic, RBA's, Mech mods and spare parts to last for decades. Being a NET fan and avid home extractor there is very little the government can do that will impact my current day to day routine in the slightest. Prudent planning/prepping today can keep you from being a remorseful, penniless victim tomorrow.
The good news for me is I'll never be "a remorseful, penniless victim" for very long.
Wait a minute!!
Wait a minute!!
We have the perfect confluence of activists. There are those who see a revenue stream through taxation. There are those who see others, such as me, enjoying themselves in a way of which they do not approve. One will diminish the use by increasing the cost; the other will diminish use by the use of prohibition laws and shame.
I, too, have stockpiled ingredients. I use a mech mod with backups that I can generally repair myself [REO]. I am as prepared as I can be, I hope that it is sufficient.
I, too, have stockpiled ingredients. I use a mech mod with backups that I can generally repair myself [REO]. I am as prepared as I can be, I hope that it is sufficient.
I have two ongoing goals with respect to vaping...
--to get smaller and smaller gear that does what I want it to do
--to make things simpler and simpler
What I want it to do is provide a means to vary power somehow, and last long enough on a charge for my purposes.
As far as making things both smaller and simpler, stacking batteries would be going in the wrong direction for me.
I can't use my 2.2 ohm 510 atomizers at 3.7 volts anymore because I'm used to more power than that.
And a reduction in vapor production back to those levels will reduce my satisfaction level to the point of not being happy.
EDIT: The Little Sister would have made me really happy
EDIT: I should have bought a few before they stopped making them
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they will have to verify each and every order to insure its
for an intended use or the government will ban all but
point of purchase sales.
the systems are already being put in place. here in
Minnesota they scan your I.D. at the cash register
when reloading or purchasing pre-paid credit cards.
adding more things to the list will not be a problem.
regards
mike
they can't ban the items.they can ban the intended use.
this concept is already in use in law enforcement when
it comes to other activities we can't mention here.
regards
mike
Nope. The commonplace materials aren't banned.
The action of manufacturing is deemed illegal.
Which may happen.
But PG and VG will never be banned.
You can't list all the everyday uses of PG in a post because of text limits.
It's in everything.
No way they will shutter all those industries.
Big pharma alone wouldn't allow it.
That's like banning all glass. Ain't gonna happen. Use yer head.
If anything gets banned other than retailing, nicotine regulation is how this plays out.
It's the only logical scenario that affects DIYers.
if that is what the FDA intends to do,they can and will do it.
they will do it before vaping gets to big as to harm producers.
if the government tells the industry to comply,they will comply.
this it will never happen stuff will vaporize right before our eyes.
its the only way they can control it as e-juice is incredibly easy
to make.
regards
mike
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