iTaste MVP v2 Owners Group

[DingerCPA]

I see. That is inline with what I just experienced.

I built a 30 guage coil 11 wraps @ 2.2 ohms. The coil fired fine, but I cannot get it to stop flooding. Before the flooding hits (after a few hits it starts), the coil takes a while to heat up (a solid 5 seconds before the full hit comes in). The draw was pretty tight as well from the longer and thicker coil, and even with a flavor wick on top, it still flooded out. Obviously this solves my "go higher ohm" dilemma since I will have to go down from here. Im thinking 10 wraps or maybe even 9 wraps of 30 guage (if the MVP can handle 1.3-1.5 ohms) might get more airflow and prevent flooding. 32 guage coils I built work well.

This is why backups are good. After the 4th time tearing the protank apart, I said screw it for the night and screwed the Aerotank on

If anyone with experience rolling 30's has any advice, im all ears...

Yay Jandry!

I wrap 30g on a 1/16" bit for my kanger heads. I'm finding on my kf's, I like the itsy-bitsy-tiny screwdriver (bigger diameter, but not sure exactly what) that came with my kf's. I'm about 9 wraps (compressed) and I land right about 1.8-1.9 Ω. Haven't tried my toothpick in awhile - that may be this weekend's project

+1 on Luke's comments about "thermal mass" (I was a EE a loooooong time ago, not an ME ) I always go back to the "straw/garden hose/fire hose" analogy. Thicker diameter wire (i.e. lower gauge) has more "area" through which electrons need to pass and it will take longer for the coil to allow for that flow.

 

[herb]

Considering im recoiling a Protank 2 coil, would you recommend 32gauge or 30guage wire? I understand some basics about it:

32 guage will require less wraps to attain chosen resistance. 30 guage will require more and thus offers a better surface area, and it also tends to last longer being a tougher coil.

Heres where Im a little confused: it is often suggested that a 1.8ohm coil heats up faster than say a 2.5ohm coil, but this doesnt make sense to me; if the mvp is capable of pushing 11 watts through each (by variably adjusting voltage), how would it be any different in terms of initial heatup speed?

Also, I hear that 32 guage heats up faster than 30 guage, but has less wraps to achieve a given ohm rating and thus less surface area around the wick to produce vapor. So am I right in assuming that building a 32guage wire with 6 wraps (example) to make X ohms will hit quicker but produce less vapor than a 30 guage wire with 9 wraps to make the same X ohms?

Sorry for all the questions. Its difficult to discern answers since so many are using mech mods with sub-ohm builds, so many are futilly trying to use lower ohm coils on regulated devices (where the device cant move the amps anyways), etc.

Im trying to get a baseline for what gauge I should try. I know im limited by the Protank 2 coil cup size (compared to the massive looking coils on kayfuns, etc), so I could use any hints you guys can offer..

I know someone earlier mentioned a kayfun, and I certainly dont mind rebuilding my own stuff, but is it really that useful on something like the MVP2? I mean the MVP 2 is a great device, but I would imagine you wouldnt see much benefit from a kayfun unless running much higher wattage. Any thoughts here?

I like 30 as an all around gauge for Pro tank rebuilds and even Kayfuns and as far as the MVP working on Kayfun's , it works great for Kayfuns .

With 28 gauge it also works but keep the diameter with 28 gauge to 1/16th for best results because any larger than 1/16th heats a bit too slow on the MVP .

I get great results with a Kayfun and the MVP , even at 9 watts running coils from 1.5-1.8.

 

[Kingsley1065]

Just found this forum. Looks Great!

I have exclusively been an Innokin user since I graduated up from ego type batteries. I have two Itazte VV/VW for when I'm on the go and an MVP. Mostly have been using Aerotanks on them with the new dual coils. Perform great.

Of course, never being satisfied, I'm mulling over the whole drip thing and was happy to see that it is possible on my MVP. Sounds like I can get started without a major investment. (Like the guy at my local B&M shop told me) I'll read thru the old posts until I THINK I know what I'm doing.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

 

[Danolink]

Off topic I will always love My MVP's But for check this out for real Love it.

https://www.fasttech.com/p/1740402

 

[KTMRider]

I see. That is inline with what I just experienced.

I built a 30 guage coil 11 wraps @ 2.2 ohms. The coil fired fine, but I cannot get it to stop flooding. Before the flooding hits (after a few hits it starts), the coil takes a while to heat up (a solid 5 seconds before the full hit comes in). The draw was pretty tight as well from the longer and thicker coil, and even with a flavor wick on top, it still flooded out. Obviously this solves my "go higher ohm" dilemma since I will have to go down from here. Im thinking 10 wraps or maybe even 9 wraps of 30 guage (if the MVP can handle 1.3-1.5 ohms) might get more airflow and prevent flooding. 32 guage coils I built work well.

This is why backups are good. After the 4th time tearing the protank apart, I said screw it for the night and screwed the Aerotank on

If anyone with experience rolling 30's has any advice, im all ears...

Try 8 or 9 wraps with the 30 ga at the same diameter. 1.5-1.9 seems to be the sweet spot for the Kayfuns. I'm using 28ga on a 3/32" drill bit (2.38mm) with 10 wraps for 1.7-1.8 ohms and it works perfect on my Kayfuns. I'm also using cotton wicks and haven't had any flooding or leaking issues with them (knock on wood).

I like 30 as an all around gauge for Pro tank rebuilds and even Kayfuns and as far as the MVP working on Kayfun's , it works great for Kayfuns .

With 28 gauge it also works but keep the diameter with 28 gauge to 1/16th for best results because any larger than 1/16th heats a bit too slow on the MVP .

I get great results with a Kayfun and the MVP , even at 9 watts running coils from 1.5-1.8.

I'm usually around 8-9 watts with the Kayfun. I tried up and down and always seem to end up at 8-9 watts.

Just found this forum. Looks Great!

I have exclusively been an Innokin user since I graduated up from ego type batteries. I have two Itazte VV/VW for when I'm on the go and an MVP. Mostly have been using Aerotanks on them with the new dual coils. Perform great.

Of course, never being satisfied, I'm mulling over the whole drip thing and was happy to see that it is possible on my MVP. Sounds like I can get started without a major investment. (Like the guy at my local B&M shop told me) I'll read thru the old posts until I THINK I know what I'm doing.

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!

I bought a Smok Caterpillar RDA last week to try out. It was cheap at $12 from my B&M, same as online but no wait. I have a 1.5 ohm single coil because I only have 28 ga wire. It's a great way to try out a new flavor w/o filling a tank.

I've been trying out an Aerotank the last few days on the MVP. It's not bad but I really like my Kayfuns.

 

[CabinetGuyScott]

If you like cotton you'll love rayon, I do anyway. My offer of free samples still applies but I will be AWOL for the next five days or so. I've got plenty to spare! When I started rebuilding I dropped my nic from 10mg to 5. YMMV.

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I'll +1 on the rayon.

After following the couple of major threads on rayon for the past couple of weeks, and searching for a source of the 40' package, I ended up buying the 500' ($11 at Sally's Beauty supply) just yesterday.

I was completely skeptical that this could possibly have the affects that most rayon users report...

WOW!

And all I did was change out the flavor wick!

The burst of flavor was amazing, enhanced by smoother than the cotton in one kanger tank, and silica in another.

So this morning I rebuilt 1/2 dozen heads I'd been saving up, anticipating I was going to get rayon, one way or another. I'll be back once I swap in a head with the rayon wick experience.

Sidebar: I use the pre-made coils from Fasttech. Can't believe these NR-R-NR coils are only 4¢ each: $2.16 Pre-Coiled Welded Wires - NR-R-NR (50-Pack) 50-pack - 32 AWG / 1.5ohm / 30*30mm at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

And with 500' of the stuff, not only will it last multiple lifetimes (which I hope to have! ), but can soak some in bleach and lay it out on the bathtub / kitchen grout & caulk to kill off the tenacious summer-time mildew

100% rayon believer now

 

[RIMP]

Thanks for the link

 

[sando7]

.........@CabinetGuyScott, thanks for the info on the Cellu, i got a sample coming; can't wait to try some!

 

[a wandering soul]

Hmm.. I keep reading about rayon.. Ill admit i'm skeptical but seeing so many positive responses,i guess I need to try it out one of these days....

Via spontaneous binary code

 

[sando7]

Hmm.. I keep reading about rayon.. Ill admit i'm skeptical but seeing so many positive responses,i guess I need to try it out one of these days....

Via spontaneous binary code

you might want to wait until the dust settles in-case any of us Ginni-pigs fall over dead

just kiddin!

 

[brookj1986]

Some have noted that they've dropped their nic after they switched to rayon. There's greater throat hit and finer particulation of the vapor which leads to greater absorption of the nic so it takes a bit less nic for the same effect.

Me, im standing pat at 6mg in most cases, though I've cut a little bit.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk.

 

[sando7]

man i went from 18mg to 6mg in the last few months just using reg Cotton, even lower when super subbing, i hear ya........i tried some of those square Japanese Cotton pieces or whatever it is and didn't like it a bit sure hope the Cellu isn't the same stuff.

i have a big bag of Polly-fill stashed from my Mycellium days, wonder if i can use it; have no idea but some cartos have poly fill in them....anybody know if it's safe to use?

 

[a wandering soul]

you might want to wait until the dust settles in-case any of us Ginni-pigs fall over dead

just kiddin!

Truthfully, I have been.


Im not anxious to drop nic.. Started in feb at 24 and now am exclusively at 6.. Ofc I am dripping sub ohm exclusively now... But moAr flavor is ALWAYS something I look for! Ill look around and see if I cant bug someone into a sample and see for myself.


Whats this? Polyfill? Myco buddy? :highfive:
Ahh those were the days... Heck I thought carts were filled with polyfill..
Via spontaneous binary code

 

[sando7]

Truthfully, I have been.


Im not anxious to drop nic.. Started in feb at 24 and now am exclusively at 6.. Ofc I am dripping sub ohm exclusively now... But moAr flavor is ALWAYS something I look for! Ill look around and see if I cant bug someone into a sample and see for myself.
Via spontaneous binary code

wait until you get an RDA that requires quad coil set-up and be subbing at 0.25, you'll drop your nic real quick

 

[a wandering soul]

I've run duals at .3 and yeah.. I can only imagine.

Via spontaneous binary code

 

[sando7]

got an IGO-W6 a week or so back, man it's a monster Vape w/ 26ga; almost unbelievable but it's tricky to build

better get back to the ole MVP before a storm happens

nothing like a good Carto Tank on the MVP

 

[1LastShot]

I'm just gonna sit back and watch ya'll with your sub-ohming and your rayon [emoji41] Lol

 

[sando7]

..........@1LastShot

did you figure out what was wrong with the SVD

 

[garyoa1]

I'm just gonna sit back and watch ya'll with your sub-ohming and your rayon [emoji41] Lol

Me two! Reading about how itz created makes me kinda wary. Especially since it's not "supposed" to be used for human consumption there would be no safeguards as to how it's made. There are some mean chemicals involved in the process.

 

[sando7]

Truthfully, I have been.


Im not anxious to drop nic.. Started in feb at 24 and now am exclusively at 6.. Ofc I am dripping sub ohm exclusively now... But moAr flavor is ALWAYS something I look for! Ill look around and see if I cant bug someone into a sample and see for myself.


Whats this? Polyfill? Myco buddy? :highfive:
Ahh those were the days... Heck I thought carts were filled with polyfill..
Via spontaneous binary code

it was something i picked up on at a Myco site, very usefull stuff and clean.......haha yep it's been a long while now, still get a patch once in awhile under the airconditioner where it drips outside from Myc i buried there yrs ago....was a B+ kind of guy in school, you know what i mean

i just might try some polly-fill in a blank carto, take a few vapes and see what happens