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pufZeppelin

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I originally did this and still try to keep it in the green.
I just checked and I did get the yellow light but after about 3 hits it was back red.

I don't follow what/how you're saying that ?
if it's yellow CHARGE IT
if it's red it NEEDS Charged :danger:


What do you mean by checking the charge numbers

v like he said: hold both buttons -- Ω comes up first, then the internal battery remaining charge

When you press both side buttons to read resistance, the next screen is voltage remaining.

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ooooooooooooooooooooh, maybe I see what your saying ???

if MVP is dead, battery in red
when you plug it in it will stay on yellow for awhile,
telling you, "you can't use it as a passthrough YET"

when the battery reaches enuff state of charge
it turns green and stays green until charge is complete, then turns off...

maybe this is what you are asking ??? yes ?

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I feel stupid I always Thought the voltage it showed after the resistance was the set volts based on wattage setting.


If the lights represent battery charge: where green is mostly charged
Yellow is halfway charged
And red is almost dead
When taking a hit.
My battery will go from a hit with a green light then 2-3 hits with the yellow light then it will turn red till its charged.
 

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Have you changed the coils in it yet?

When I turn mine upside down and start to remove the bottom the e-juice starts to come out of the drip tip.

Does that mean the tank must be completely empty to change the coil!!??!!

I haven't changed the coils yet....but I have turned it upside down a few times to be sure it's wicking properly and there was no leakage.
What I have noticed is that the vape from a dual coil is super intense. I think this will only be a tank I use with morning coffee, when I really need extra hard hits, because this thing is CRAZY intense. I wasn't sure what to expect..more vapor...but didn't even think that I would be getting twice as much of everything (throat hit, etc) with dual coils. It's pretty awesome. I may even get lower nic juices for when I use this clearo.

I see a lot of people complaining about leaking. I wonder what kind of juice they use. For example, I would get quite a bit of leakage here and there with pro tanks back when I was only using 80% PG juices. Those juices were a lot thinner and wonder if that is what caused the leaking. I thought max PG was the only way to get decent throat hit when I first started vaping. Now I have a happy place at a 50/50 blend usually if I have the choice.
 

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good deal getting a cool magic box !

awwwwh, don't worry about WATTS
it works the same way VV or VW, just start low and
move up the scale till you get good vape...

2.1Ω @ 4 volts is about 7.5 watts

use this calc to do the conversion math for ya
- Ohm's Law / Watt's Law Calculator

in your case , what I do, set V about 3.8, then W @ 7.5
that way you can just select either one and be high or low
without having to run thru each scale every time...
that's after your done playing with it of course :D

have a good time with your new toy (careful you don't vape your face off)
:)

Thanks! I am actually vaping my face off, but it's ok.
I think I get it for the most part. I can use the VV feature, but the wattage can change depending on the resistance of my coils. But if I use the VW feature, I will get the same vape even if the resistance of my coil changes, yes? Because it will still feed the same wattage no matter what?

I am not worried about it. I'm just going to enjoy it. I figure over time, I will learn the ins and outs of it. Just like I did when I picked up my first Blu (years ago) and then when I picked up my first Ego, and then my first spinner, and then my first pro tank, etc. :)
 

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Here's what I wrote in the VV3 forums.....Hope this helps.

You asked.....Here's how wattage, resistance, voltage all mix together.

Before we start, Watts at the coil is what produces the flavor, higher wattage -> Higher Temperature -> more flavor and more vapor (until you go too high and burn the juice....)

Ohms Law and Watts Law state the following for a simple DC circuit. Watts = Voltage*Current.... Current = Voltage/Resistance. So Watts = Voltage*Voltage/Resistance

When you had an Ego Stick Battery or unregulated battery, The voltage output of your battery was fixed. Thus the only way to coax out more temperature at the coil was to lower it's resistance. This is why people use 1.8 ohm coils or lower on standard non regulated batteries. If Voltage remains constant, then when resistance goes down, Watts goes up...More flavor, More Temp.... Problem is. It's not easy to set the resistance to a coil. Once it's "wrapped" it's pretty much set. So you are stuck with buying a lower resistance coil from the manufacturer, or coiling your own heads.

So The Variable Voltage Battery came into play. I can't easily change resistance, but I can raise voltage. Thus if resistance stays constant, when I increase voltage, I increase wattage. Much easier for us to control the flavor. Most people simply set their batteries at a low value and then bump up the voltage until it "tastes right". If you already know what your coil resistance is, and what Wattage you want at the coil, then you can calculate what voltage you need to get to your target wattage. There are also Voltage and resistance tables online that allow you to have a good starting point for your adjustments.

One little problem with variable voltage. Let's say I take off one tank and put on a new one....Even though Kanger, Innokin, or whoever says that it's a 1.8 ohm coil, it can actually be up to .3 to .4 ohms different. So when I put on my new tank with it's atty and take a draw at my desired voltage, all of the sudden, the vape is not as intense, or tastes burnt. This is because resistance varies from coil to coil. It can also vary over the life of the coil. So with variable voltage, you have to continue to tweak your settings when you change atty heads or as the atty head ages.

Here's where Variable Wattage comes in. Let's say I discover that I like vaping a particular juice at 7.5 watts. I may have discovered this using variable voltage....(4.3 volts, 2.5 ohm resistance). So now I set my Variable Wattage to 7.5 watts. The device will measure the coil resistance and then automatically adjust the volts up or down to produce 7.5 watts. If I put my juice in a new tank, and the atty head changes resistance, I still get 7.5 watts and the same flavor....If my coil changes in resistance over time...I still produce 7.5 watts and my flavor stays consistent.

So that's how resistance plays into the whole variable voltage/variable wattage discussion and why lower resistance heads are preferred on standard non regulated batteries.

EDIT: This assumes you are using single head Atty's. Dual head atty's run cool in variable wattage mode because the load is split between two coils. The battery will sense the total resistance of the two coils in parallel and adjust voltage to get a total of your set wattage . That load will be evenly split between the two coils, (i.e. 7.0 watts split = 3.5 watts per head) so you will get a much cooler vape at a given wattage than if you used a single head atty. As a result, you normally have to adjust your wattage or voltage higher for a dual coil head then you would normally adjust for a single coil head. That's why you can run 10 watts or more on an iClear with no problem, but anything much over 7 to 7.5 on a Kanger protank and you start to taste burnt e-liquid.

Thank you, you are awesome. This helped me out a lot. :) Still a little muddy on the whole idea, but I know it will all come together with time and the more I use this thing.

I'm really enjoying it! Also, do you think that extreme temperatures can affect the resistance of your coils? I ask this because this morning I had one clearo that was registering at 2.4 ohms, but when I got in the car to drive home from work,I checked it again (before actually driving away) and it was all the way at 4.0 ohms. It was quite chilly (we are in the middle of arctic death-a.k.a. polar vortex part deaux) and I wonder if that had something to do with it.
 

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I just had a great (terrible) example of the advantage of vw. For some reason I had my VV3 set to vv and switched from my protank with a coil reading 1.6 to my mini protank reading 2.5, and thoroughly scorched the nice new liquid I was trying. Now the new liquid probably needs a lower setting anyhow, but if I'd been using vw at the time I would have had some warning before it got to burned from new.
 

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I'm almost positive mine read ~4.2 when I fully charged it. Leave it on the charger until the "halo" around the fire button goes completely out. I generally leave mine plugged in overnight (though I've only really had to charge it twice in the week and a half I've owned it :D)

Its reading 3.9

It wasn't fully charged...
 

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regarding the vw/vv discussion - I am not sure if it has been pointed out (sorry i cant read all 360 pages) - but if you are using a dual coil head then the wattage is split between the coils and you can run them higher than a single coil. If you switch from a dual to a single coil at the same resistance you probably wont be happy.
 

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    regarding the vw/vv discussion - I am not sure if it has been pointed out (sorry i cant read all 360 pages) - but if you are using a dual coil head then the wattage is split between the coils and you can run them higher than a single coil. If you switch from a dual to a single coil at the same resistance you probably wont be happy.

    I don't agree, I vape everything at 10 watts, single and double coils, and both is good for me.
     
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