iTaste MVP v2 Owners Group

[jandry]

I have to say, the "tighter" coils arent really to my preference. Any of you cats test "tight wound" vs. "wound with a gap" type coils? The problem for me with the tight ones is that they make a very tight draw. Is there some alignment im not doing right?

I tend to prefer coils where each loop is spaced away from the one next to it. I understand that tightly coiled means each loop shares its heat with the coil on either side of it, but the tighter draw means I must take a drag MUCH longer than id like to get my nic-fix.

Regardless, thanks to you folks ive found a happy balance at either 32 guage 5 wraps 1.8ohm 1/16th or 30 guage 8 wraps 1.7ohm 1/16th. I prefer the latter since the draw is lighter, but of course thats subjective preference. Unless im doing something wrong..

I think I might need to get a Russian 91% or a Kayfun, but money money money..

Vape on

 

[herb]

As long as the wick is wet with e-juice, you won't burn your coil. Some like a warm vape so going higher achieves it. I run about 7-8w on the Aerotank and 8-9 on the Kayfuns. The guys running 15+ watts have low ohm coils and needs the volts to run them. E-juice also makes a difference. There's no real right answer so try all the settings and start vaping at what YOU like. What everyone else does is a guideline if you don't know where to start.

Yep, i run max 8.5 watts on a Pro Tank II and about 9 watts with the Kayfun , works great.

I just got a aerotank mega and some of the new coils kanger has upgraded to. Has anyone had these issues where it's only going good for about 3-4 days a week if lucky? Also notice that on the old ones I would have my mvp set at 9w and everything peachy but now on the upgrades I do 9w I'm burning the juice.

I stay away from the Aerotanks and new dual coil head's because i don't feel like needing to continually buy new ones and i like how easy it is to rebuild the singles. I also do not see huge advantages of dual coils , at least not enough advantage to start rebuilding them.

They swallow juice faster and wear down your battery faster.

I have an Aerotank Mega and I will let you know if I have the same problem (if I can ever put the Protank 2 down). I think the tank is great, the airflow is fantastic, the vapor production is good, but the flavor is not as great and the hits arent all that hard. I think Ill end up getting a bunch of those older Aerotank dual coil heads and do some custom dual-coil jobs

I know that usually people rebuild as single coils, but I think the dual coil setup might be worth it. OTOH, my protank 2 single coil hits better than the Aerotank Megas coil.

Little confused over this one , you think rebuilding dual coils is worth it despite your single coils performing better than your new Aerotank Megas coils?

 

[pufZeppelin]

I have to say, the "tighter" coils arent really to my preference. Any of you cats test "tight wound" vs. "wound with a gap" type coils? The problem for me with the tight ones is that they make a very tight draw. Is there some alignment im not doing right?

I tend to prefer coils where each loop is spaced away from the one next to it. I understand that tightly coiled means each loop shares its heat with the coil on either side of it, but the tighter draw means I must take a drag MUCH longer than id like to get my nic-fix.

Regardless, thanks to you folks ive found a happy balance at either 32 guage 5 wraps 1.8ohm 1/16th or 30 guage 8 wraps 1.7ohm 1/16th. I prefer the latter since the draw is lighter, but of course thats subjective preference. Unless im doing something wrong..

I think I might -- need to get a Russian 91% or a Kayfun, but money money money..

Vape on

after trying several diff styles of wrapping
my fav is 5 wraps of 32ga around 2mm not touching (again & again & again & again & again & again)

kayfun / kanger bcc / RDA


jus` sayin'

- Kayfun Lite Plus | Tuff PuffsTuff Puffs

 

[garyoa1]

A little confused on this. The air channel(s) are a separate part of a tank. A loose coil will only let the wick absorb more. A too tight wrap, it will absorb less (and likely give dry hits).

But neither should make any difference whatsoever with the draw. The only way it would get tighter is if the wick is blocking the air channels.

 

[pufZeppelin]

Yep, i run max 8.5 watts on a Pro Tank II and about 9 watts with the Kayfun , works great.



I stay away from the Aerotanks and new dual coil head's because i don't feel like needing to continually buy new ones and i like how easy it is to rebuild the singles.
I also do not see huge advantages of dual coils , at least not enough advantage to start rebuilding them.

They swallow juice faster and wear down your battery faster.


Little confused over this one , you think rebuilding dual coils is worth it despite your single coils performing better than your new Aerotank Megas coils?

I'm with ya on the 'dual coil" deal

but the new topper tanks associated with them is what I fancy

so I have been using the dual coil bodies and just making single coil inside them

kinda acquired some aerotanks from daughter (after her lackluster run with them)

capacity, glass, airflow control, bcc coil, I'm still experimenting with them

secretly setting myself up for one of these... (ego threads)
- Kanger MOW Pyrex Dual Coil Clearomizer w/Air Flow Control

 

[pufZeppelin]

A little confused on this. The air channel(s) are a separate part of a tank. A loose coil will only let the wick absorb more. A too tight wrap, it will absorb less (and likely give dry hits).

But neither should make any difference whatsoever with the draw. The only way it would get tighter is if the wick is blocking the air channels.

haha, I kinda avoided that, feeling the same way

figure I'll let him go into more detail

but as you say the two aren't related

elementary speaking
-lots of wick restricts airflow
-not enuff wick makes an airy draw

 

[jandry]

Yep, i run max 8.5 watts on a Pro Tank II and about 9 watts with the Kayfun , works great.



I stay away from the Aerotanks and new dual coil head's because i don't feel like needing to continually buy new ones and i like how easy it is to rebuild the singles. I also do not see huge advantages of dual coils , at least not enough advantage to start rebuilding them.

They swallow juice faster and wear down your battery faster.


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Little confused over this one , you think rebuilding dual coils is worth it despite your single coils performing better than your new Aerotank Megas coils?

More better

Im a noob man- freely admit it. I figure the single coil performing better is due to me rebuilding it with custom wraps and cotton wicks. If I can make a single coil better than a dual coil, I start asking what I could do with a dual coil..

I hear you though. Thats why I mention things here- looking to vets to guide me, and maybe offer some info that is useful to someone else.

I know more isnt always better. There are plenty of 2.* liter imports ive driven that would destroy most 5.* muscle cars, etc. Just musing so you all might comment

 

[Renegade3plt]

No, I haven't changed liquid, and I only use 2.2 ohm coils. I'm guessing it'd have to be a bad batch of coils. I'm on the 3rd one in the pack, so if the other 2 crap out, I guess I'll have my answer. I don't know anything about building coils. I'm guessing I need to get a jump on it. Any leads on where to buy everything I need to get started? Thanks for your help, pufZeppelin and KTMRider. I appreciate it.

 

[Nick N]

EBay has the cheapest Kanthal, under $5 shipped for 100 feet. Then you choose your wick - silica, cotton (balls, pads, or yarn), or rayon are the most common choices. Then you need something to wrap the coil around like drill bits, tooth picks, gizmos, etc.

Pretty easy once you get the hang of it. Patience is truly a virtue in the beginning. I still have those days when I just can't wrap a coil.

 

[clnire]

after trying several diff styles of wrapping
my fav is 5 wraps of 32ga around 2mm not touching (again & again & again & again & again & again)

kayfun / kanger bcc / RDA


jus` sayin'

- Kayfun Lite Plus | Tuff PuffsTuff Puffs

That is my preference too. [emoji4]

 

[clnire]

Today I received an Aerotank Mega I won in a Spinfuel Magazine contest . I am eager to try the new style coil it came with, but when they quit I will just switch back to single coils I rebuild. I certainly have enough spare assemblies! Love new toys, especially when they are free!

I prefer single coils for all the reasons everyone already stated. I can get good flavor and vapor out of them (I am certainly not a cloud chaser), they don't drain the battery nor go through juice as fast, and they are easy to rebuild.

 

[pufZeppelin]

No, I haven't changed liquid, and I only use 2.2 ohm coils. I'm guessing it'd have to be a bad batch of coils. I'm on the 3rd one in the pack, so if the other 2 crap out, I guess I'll have my answer.
I don't know anything about building coils. I'm guessing I need to get a jump on it.
Any leads on where to buy everything I need to get started? Thanks for your help, pufZeppelin and KTMRider. I appreciate it.

this should do it - all ya need

- Lightning Vapes - Florida - All the RBA Materials you need! Silica Wick, Ekowool, Kanthal Wire, and more!

- Ecru | Peaches And Creme

- A PBusardo Review All About The EVOD - Includes Recoiling - YouTube

 

[herb]

A little confused on this. The air channel(s) are a separate part of a tank. A loose coil will only let the wick absorb more. A too tight wrap, it will absorb less (and likely give dry hits).

But neither should make any difference whatsoever with the draw. The only way it would get tighter is if the wick is blocking the air channels.

Yup, doesn't matter if the coils are touching each other or not as it has no effect on the draw ,sounds like too much wicking .

 

[pufZeppelin]

Today I received an Aerotank Mega I won in a Spinfuel Magazine contest .
I am eager to try the new style coil it came with, but when they quit I will just switch back to single coils I rebuild.
I certainly have enough spare assemblies! Love new toys, especially when they are free!

I prefer single coils for all the reasons everyone already stated. I can get good flavor and vapor out of them (I am certainly not a cloud chaser),
they don't drain the battery nor go through juice as fast, and they are easy to rebuild.

that's way cool ya won one of those tanks (must be nice )


- http://www.sun-vapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Protank-3-head-comparison.jpg

 

[herb]

Today I received an Aerotank Mega I won in a Spinfuel Magazine contest . I am eager to try the new style coil it came with, but when they quit I will just switch back to single coils I rebuild. I certainly have enough spare assemblies! Love new toys, especially when they are free!

I prefer single coils for all the reasons everyone already stated. I can get good flavor and vapor out of them (I am certainly not a cloud chaser), they don't drain the battery nor go through juice as fast, and they are easy to rebuild.

You won a Mega, thats awesome , congrats.

 

[herb]

I'm no vet and if i sound like i know what i'm talking about thats a first lol.

 

[KTMRider]

No, I haven't changed liquid, and I only use 2.2 ohm coils. I'm guessing it'd have to be a bad batch of coils. I'm on the 3rd one in the pack, so if the other 2 crap out, I guess I'll have my answer. I don't know anything about building coils. I'm guessing I need to get a jump on it. Any leads on where to buy everything I need to get started? Thanks for your help, pufZeppelin and KTMRider. I appreciate it.

I would take the first 2 apart and see what the problem was. You can pop off the top and try a dry burn to see if they ignite. Could be the coil wiring might be off by a bit and just need to be wiggled back into place. The main reason I went with a Kayfun is so I didn't have to buy carts or coils. I had enough of getting defective carts that can't be returned and wasting money. They're not that expensive but when you burn thru 4 in a day, you start looking for something else (happened with my Vea).

I'm no vet and if i sound like i know what i'm talking about thats a first lol.

Me either. I started all this about 3 weeks ago but I did a TON of research before jumping in and still look at stuff. I have a ton of experience with carbs on bikes so the Kayfuns are kinda like that as far as troubleshooting. These are much easier to trouble shoot as there's not much that can go wrong and what does is documented in these type of forums so I learned from the experiences of others as well.

 

[jandry]

A little confused on this. The air channel(s) are a separate part of a tank. A loose coil will only let the wick absorb more. A too tight wrap, it will absorb less (and likely give dry hits).

But neither should make any difference whatsoever with the draw. The only way it would get tighter is if the wick is blocking the air channels.

I missed your response, sorry. Well, I guess im doing something wrong. I have rolled a wick or two that was "too much" but even going pretty sparse with the cotton nets this result. BTW, by "tight wrap" I mean each loop is close to each other- they are all wrapped on a 1/16th drillbit and all use roughly the same size wicks.

I have to run "flavor wicks" or I will get flooding, and even a super thin flavor wick results in a tight draw. I dunno what im missing, because 2 coils with different coil wraps yet virtually identical wicks have different draw ratios. It might be because I "flare" my wicks out after the coil, and thus a tighter coil means the flare happens sooner?

Im still trying to tweak around. Am I supposed to offset the coil at all? Right now I have the coil dead in the center of the cup...

Thanks for your comment- ill try messing around some more..

 

[pufZeppelin]

I missed your response, sorry. Well, I guess im doing something wrong. I have rolled a wick or two that was "too much" but even going pretty sparse with the cotton nets this result. BTW, by "tight wrap" I mean each loop is close to each other- they are all wrapped on a 1/16th drillbit and all use roughly the same size wicks.

I have to run "flavor wicks" or I will get flooding, and even a super thin flavor wick results in a tight draw. I dunno what im missing, because 2 coils with different coil wraps yet virtually identical wicks have different draw ratios. It might be because I "flare" my wicks out after the coil, and thus a tighter coil means the flare happens sooner?

Im still trying to tweak around. Am I supposed to offset the coil at all? Right now I have the coil dead in the center of the cup...

Thanks for your comment- ill try messing around some more..

how 'bout, maybe you're allowing the wire wrap to sit to high
in the body of the coil
resulting in sqwish when chimney cap is snapped on ??

keep coil deep down, bottom of "v" window...

all I got

- http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m126/frunkster_2006/Vaping/IMGP5764_zps95bd6947.jpg

- http://s284.photobucket.com/user/EddieAdams76/media/20130411_113155.jpg.html

 

[Joe Gordon]

OK, can only guess this will be a big hit and the new gotta-have...

twin (2) dual coils mounted in a 6ml, glass, SS, airflow control
looks like Kanger wants to be the big dog on the block again
and the vaping wars rage on…
- http://sweet-vapes.com/media/catalo...f78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/u/turbo2.jpg
- http://www.vaporbeast.com/kanger-aerotank-turbo.html
- Kanger Aerotank Turbo

Wow I say wow kanger seem to release a new tank every month this year, which I guess is great since I got a aerotank for under 10 which first one I got I paid 27.00. I like the aerotank it my non dripping go to tank, but I have shineyitus and got to try everything new, but kanger going crazy with the coils changes hate them trying torebuilding them now not easy for me