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legion13

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so frustrating even a copy of the 510 adapter........

in my business i get the same thing, people knocking off my business model, designs and using my name. the funny thing is the ones who do it are still eating hamburger and i still eat filet mignon.:) they draw in other likeminded customers that would never be good clients anyway. and i believe (after much market research) become clients eventually anyway! the copiers NEVER can duplicate the "X" factor that high end products and services have. they only make end users want the real thing more!

my wife sumes it up the best.

she likes high end purses and cannot understand why someone would buy a knock off.

this is what she says and i love it.

"why buy a knock off when anyone that has the real thing can tell immediately that its a knock off, it makes you look silly and cheap, on the other hand the people that could not tell its a knock off wouldn't know what the brand is anyway! what do you achieve? you have a inferior product that makes you look cheap to the ones who know and is lost on the ones who dont. save your money and buy 1 of the real thing not one of every cheap thing"

i love my wife...

sorry for the off topic rant
 

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ecf doesnt give me access to this page tazz. What is all about? A thread where someone sells GG clones?

Yes Imeo, they are the same ones that Stormy's Vapor cellar and Discount vapers has. The MKB-TS is the name of it. MKB-TS (Telescope) APV

And the adapter Adapter for MKB-TS APV and a new top cap like the GG Stealth Stormy's Vapor Cellar LLC Adapter%20for%20MKB-TS%20Mod-800x600.jpgMKB%20Stelth%20Top%20Cap_2-75x75.jpgMKB_TS-75x75.jpg
 
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I love your wife too legion. Smart girl and a great person:)
so frustrating even a copy of the 510 adapter........

in my business i get the same thing, people knocking off my business model, designs and using my name. the funny thing is the ones who do it are still eating hamburger and i still eat filet mignon.:) they draw in other likeminded customers that would never be good clients anyway. and i believe (after much market research) become clients eventually anyway! the copiers NEVER can duplicate the "X" factor that high end products and services have. they only make end users want the real thing more!

my wife sumes it up the best.

she likes high end purses and cannot understand why someone would buy a knock off.

this is what she says and i love it.

"why buy a knock off when anyone that has the real thing can tell immediately that its a knock off, it makes you look silly and cheap, on the other hand the people that could not tell its a knock off wouldn't know what the brand is anyway! what do you achieve? you have a inferior product that makes you look cheap to the ones who know and is lost on the ones who dont. save your money and buy 1 of the real thing not one of every cheap thing"

i love my wife...

sorry for the off topic rant
 

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I am wondering why they dont make things just like they have to make them. For example I see this adapter. It has nothing to do with GGTS adapter, it will make the GG clone bigger about 1cm that is a lot of length and its not steady like the real thing. Also I am not sure if it has a movable center pin.
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Yes Imeo, they are the same ones that Stormy's Vapor cellar and Discount vapers has. The MKB-TS is the name of it. MKB-TS (Telescope) APV

And the adapter Adapter for MKB-TS APV and a new top cap like the GG Stealth Stormy's Vapor Cellar LLC View attachment 213860View attachment 213861View attachment 213862
 

imeothanasis

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yes Idaho, taz send me the info I need. At least ecf has put a note about those copies.
They really ruin GG name like this. They advertize it as a clone but its a bad made clone and also with some differences that are crusial. So its not even a clone, its a mix of a clone and something else.:(
Has to stop.
Did you get the information Imeo?
 

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I suppose the GGTS clone sales in a coop here on ECF , is not illegal, however it has no moral or ethical value to me at all. And should be banned here on ECF because the real maker of GG's is Imeo Thanasis and has been a registered forum supplier/seller for years, way before clones.!!!! Registered forum suppliers / manufacturers deserve respect.

Just my sincere thoughts.........:|
 

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Totally agreed. Anyone who looks close enough at the copy will quickly appreciate the real deal. Side by side, the clone is laughable. And current street asking price of a mint GGTS in ECF classy is $500, and the clone is selling in the US for <$70; worth a bit more than machined steel tubes.
 
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