Max flavor out of MTL RTA?

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Do you guys clean your wire? For the first time ever, I noticed some nasty stuff on a spool from Vandy vape. Was wondering what the process is for cleaning the spool. Alcohol wipe? Boiling water? Looks like a dried booger or something lol.
 

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BRO just scratch it off when u cut it to make a coil I guess and then dry burn it I guess :p
EWWWWWWW FACTORY WORKER BOOOGER EWWWWWWW
Alcohol will be ok I guess but if it's a hardened thingy need to scrap it off

lmfao. I scraped it off with a flathead, and I used a paper towel with water, but I’m still worried it’s not entirely clean. I messaged Vandy vape and I hope they send me another spool lol
 
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lmfao. I scraped it off with a flathead, and I used a paper towel with water, but I’m still worried it’s not entirely clean. I messaged Vandy vape and I hope they send me another spool lol

I can't see it in person to see what it is....I wonder if it's some kind of glue....but seriously don't seem soooo bad like ok if u dry burn also I guess it will go away...wish it wasn't Clapton tho would be much easier and sure it will go away :p
 

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Why does this keep happening? 2-4ml of juice turns my coils black and flavorless. This particular juice was from Cloudberry (no artificial sweeteners)

.9ohm 32gauge SS316L at 9 watts with rayon

I am a newbie also....I don't know about your juices but I vape 70vg juice and very sweet and I guess artificial or not....a sweet juice will gunk up your coil fast....I usually rewick every 2days and like 1500puffs more or less with some juices.....recently I started make juices with less flavour inside and 60vg....I get still good flavour for my taste and less gunk.....
But ofc depends the wicking cause if I get it very good then I can work my wattage correct and vaporize better and create less gunk....
How fast this happened???
As I see the pic feels like it's veeeery saturated with juice....didn't u had leaks??
 

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that don't seem like very bad gunk on the coil btw...it just looks a bit darker from the pic I see...but the coil as u already can see it's not very well build....try make it a little more straight and maybe the wraps a little closer to each other ???? This coil don't seem I would mute the flavour tho as u say even if it's a little messy....is centered to the airflow good??
Also what wire is that??? Maybe want to try 28 wire so can keep it in good shape?
 

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I am a newbie also....I don't know about your juices but I vape 70vg juice and very sweet and I guess artificial or not....a sweet juice will gunk up your coil fast....I usually rewick every 2days and like 1500puffs more or less with some juices.....recently I started make juices with less flavour inside and 60vg....I get still good flavour for my taste and less gunk.....
But ofc depends the wicking cause if I get it very good then I can work my wattage correct and vaporize better and create less gunk....
How fast this happened???
As I see the pic feels like it's veeeery saturated with juice....didn't u had leaks??

I have to space the coils like that for TC to work. Not sure why. I got good flavor for about 3-4 hours, then a sudden drop in flavor, and I noticed my watts dropped in half (usually an indicator of a dirty coil)
 

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I have to space the coils like that for TC to work. Not sure why. I got good flavor for about 3-4 hours, then a sudden drop in flavor, and I noticed my watts dropped in half (usually an indicator of a dirty coil)

Do you see the Same Drop-Off in Flavor when you are in VW Mode?

If Not, could it be more of a TC Issue than an Coil/e-Liquid issue?
 

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I have to space the coils like that for TC to work. Not sure why. I got good flavor for about 3-4 hours, then a sudden drop in flavor, and I noticed my watts dropped in half (usually an indicator of a dirty coil)

I don't use temp control but just saying....I think doesn't need to be sooooo spaced coil for temp....but even if it is....the thing is that almost half of this coil is out of the airflow hole...I think this atty has a hole airflow doesn't it?
And also yeah try wattage mode like zoidman said to make sure....or maybe need to let it cool down and then reattach the atty or rescan the coil to calibrate the temp control????
 

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Do you see the Same Drop-Off in Flavor when you are in VW Mode?

If Not, could it be more of a TC Issue than an Coil/e-Liquid issue?

Yes same flavor drop. When I use only VW mode I tend to be able to get a full tank or two, so like 8ml of liquid before I have to change my coil, but I feel like that’s still pretty underwhelming. I’m using the same juices (and a couple marketed as low sweetener non coil gunking) that I was in my Novo 2. In there they would last at least 15ml, so I don’t really get it. I did order a DNA mod for my birthday and I’m really hoping that will help me get a better vape, but I’d still like to understand why this is happening.
 

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I don't use temp control but just saying....I think doesn't need to be sooooo spaced coil for temp....but even if it is....the thing is that almost half of this coil is out of the airflow hole...I think this atty has a hole airflow doesn't it?
And also yeah try wattage mode like zoidman said to make sure....or maybe need to let it cool down and then reattach the atty or rescan the coil to calibrate the temp control????

You have to click the link and zoom in, but it’s a 4 wrap specifically so it all sits on top of the airflow. The 3 main wraps are over the hole and the two half wraps for the legs are a little further out
 

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Yes same flavor drop. When I use only VW mode I tend to be able to get a full tank or two, so like 8ml of liquid before I have to change my coil, but I feel like that’s still pretty underwhelming. I’m using the same juices (and a couple marketed as low sweetener non coil gunking) that I was in my Novo 2. In there they would last at least 15ml, so I don’t really get it. I did order a DNA mod for my birthday and I’m really hoping that will help me get a better vape, but I’d still like to understand why this is happening.

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Yes same flavor drop. When I use only VW mode I tend to be able to get a full tank or two, so like 8ml of liquid before I have to change my coil, but I feel like that’s still pretty underwhelming. I’m using the same juices (and a couple marketed as low sweetener non coil gunking) that I was in my Novo 2. In there they would last at least 15ml, so I don’t really get it. I did order a DNA mod for my birthday and I’m really hoping that will help me get a better vape, but I’d still like to understand why this is happening.

I can't see from pic very good....but this just seems like leftovers from the burned juice but really it don't seem sooo bad to be able to ruin your flavour....u either have left over gunk from juice or if the cotton is tooooo tight u may heat it too much and make it dark...I haven't seen any other other reason to make my coil or cotton dark....
listen you and me are both new to this and believe me the more we work it we gonna become better at building and have better experience....
getting a DNA mod is good ofc cause all say it's best temp control..... but don't forget in "problems" like these it's just our building that is not good...needs time...
Also don't forget our tastebuds sometimes play games on us....believe me many times I have being played by my taste and the vape was fine... :) But either way you gonna work it out...just need time
BTW how much vg /pg u vape?
 

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I can't see from pic very good....but this just seems like leftovers from the burned juice but really it don't seem sooo bad to be able to ruin your flavour....u either have left over gunk from juice or if the cotton is tooooo tight u may heat it too much and make it dark...I haven't seen any other other reason to make my coil or cotton dark....
listen you and me are both new to this and believe me the more we work it we gonna become better at building and have better experience....
getting a DNA mod is good ofc cause all say it's best temp control..... but don't forget in "problems" like these it's just our building that is not good...needs time...
Also don't forget our tastebuds sometimes play games on us....believe me many times I have being played by my taste and the vape was fine... :) But either way you gonna work it out...just need time

That was rayon so it is a little tight in the coil, but it doesn’t matter if I do super tight or more loose. If it gives me good flavor, and it’s not leaking, I assume I’m wicking it correctly. Either way, it still ends up burning in a ridiculously short amount of time. 28, 30, 32, and my Superfine MTL claptons. I realize that with more and more practice I will probably be able to figure it out - it’s just a lot easier with the help of people who have been doing this awhile.
 
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Try focus on one attomizer and build a pretty evenly spaced coil that will be maybe a little bigger than the airflow hole on the deck...if it's hard with stainless steel then do it with let's say 28ga kanthal that is harder or ni80 or whatever helps you....and practice wicking that and when u get a good vape then u switch to stainless steel and temp control I guess...
I just say ideas ofc no offence I just try to help as much as I can...others know better ofc here :D
 

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That was rayon so it is a little tight in the coil, but it doesn’t matter if I do super tight or more loose. If it gives me good flavor, and it’s not leaking, I assume I’m wicking it correctly. Either way, it still ends up burning in a ridiculously short amount of time. 28, 30, 32, and my Superfine MTL claptons. I realize that with more and more practice I will probably be able to figure it out - it’s just a lot easier with the help of people who have been doing this awhile.

Yes ofc I am asking all the time here hahahaha xD I just think like I have told you before that u put your self toooooo much to learn at the same time....I did the same mistake once and then I was like xD fak it I will build a kanthal coil and try to get a good vape in simple hahaha and after than i try slowly experiment a bit with other stuff....but the coil gunk is something soon far I can't avoid...only with juice I make with not much flavourings and 60vg I am able to get like 4days of use with same cotton...
Also I tend to use a flashlight when at home and I check the coil from the top and see it how it goes.....ahhahaha
 

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Try focus on one attomizer and build a pretty evenly spaced coil that will be maybe a little bigger than the airflow hole on the deck...if it's hard with stainless steel then do it with let's say 28ga kanthal that is harder or ni80 or whatever helps you....and practice wicking that and when u get a good vape then u switch to stainless steel and temp control I guess...
I just say ideas ofc no offence I just try to help as much as I can...others know better ofc here :D

You’re good man lol no offense taken, I know you’re trying to help. I use a coil master jig and all my coils tend to come out pretty evenly spaced and I do keep them mostly over the airflow. You guys have helped me get a good vape, that’s not my problem anymore, it’s the gunking of my coils lol. I don’t really like the way kanthal tastes. I had some wire included in one of the RTA’s I bought and I ended up throwing it away because I didn’t like it. Now I only have SS. Here’s a 32ga 1.7ohm coil. It’s a little too long, and it’s already exhibiting signs of yellowing after 15-20 puffs at 9 watts lol
 
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You’re good man lol no offense taken, I know you’re trying to help. I use a coil master jig and all my coils tend to come out pretty evenly spaced and I do keep them mostly over the airflow. You guys have helped me get a good vape, that’s not my problem anymore, it’s the gunking of my coils lol. I don’t really like the way kanthal tastes. I had some wire included in one of the RTA’s I bought and I ended up throwing it away because I didn’t like it. Now I only have SS. Here’s a 32ga 1.7ohm coil. It’s a little too long, and it’s already exhibiting signs of yellowing after 15-20 puffs at 9 watts lol
 

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