This is what I mean earlier. I am pro in build even for 4 years using many RTA , flooding once in past 2 year. Pls revie.
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"What's new"?
"Oh, nothing. We just made the V3 smaller so it complies to TPD"
This is how this looks to me.
SM both advertised the V3 Mini (yes, I have it with the MTL kit) and the V5 as the greatest MTL devices on Earth. They're "meh" at best, with the V5 an absolute joke for MTL and the V3 Mini merely "ok". Saying, Svoemestro, to me, has not released anything great after the Kayfun Lite V2 Plus (now talking strictly MTL). I think their atties are extremely overhyped.
"Oh, nothing. We just made the V3 smaller so it complies to TPD"
This is how this looks to me.
SM both advertised the V3 Mini (yes, I have it with the MTL kit) and the V5 as the greatest MTL devices on Earth. They're "meh" at best, with the V5 an absolute joke for MTL and the V3 Mini merely "ok". Saying, Svoemestro, to me, has not released anything great after the Kayfun Lite V2 Plus (now talking strictly MTL). I think their atties are extremely overhyped.
Wow, ok.
But did ya know...
The KM3 never came with that "MTL kit" which you claim to have ---> just thought you may like to know.
In fact there is no such thing for the KM3.I would be very curious to know where you got a KM3 MTL kit.
I am going to leave that right there on purpose.
I have no doubt you think SVM atties are overhyped. No doubt in my mind. But it should be pointed out that you are in a severe minority of opinion...not that it should alter how you feel about them.
To add to SMTs comment, it should also be noted that pretty much every atomizer (regardless of brand) that came out post-Kayfun Lite incorporated all or some of the designs and features of the Kayfun Lite. To say the Kayfuns were game changers would not be an overstatement.
I always thought they were physically large for the size of the building deck and amount of juice they held.
Actually, I've been a little surprised about how little love SM gets on the forum. Maybe they're not buying shills like the "popular" brands --haha!
For me, the sun rises and sets with the Kayfun Prime (clone). Haven't tried the 2019 Lite yet but I'm not completely sold on the 2019 airflow design.
For me, the sun rises and sets with the Kayfun Prime (clone). Haven't tried the 2019 Lite yet but I'm not completely sold on the 2019 airflow design.
You do know it has to be your build. There's no doubt the kayfuns are harder to wick then the doggy, but it has to be something your not doing correctly. I use 26g at 23 watts in the nkfl and its absolutely cool, no heat what so ever. I don't chain vape, but I tried it just to see and no heat from drip tip, although the base does get ever so slightly warm.....as for leaking , it's either insufficient cotton in channels or somehow juice is coming off your coil and dripping into af hole . There's another possibility and that is the deck is not screwed in tight to the base and juice collecting where the 2 screw together is getting down and into the 510.....I think the biggest reason is wicking material bunched up against the leads of the coil and dripping against the leads and then travels downwards kind of flooding the af area....the wick needs to come out from the end of the coil and not be bunched right up against the leads. As the wicking material comes out from the edge of coil, there needs to be a gap (as you look on from a side view) between the coil legs/leads and the bunched area of wick as it leaves edge of coil....I also think alot of this heat I hear of could possibly be from coils that are perhaps to long. A long coil may not be getting enough af and runs a bit hotter.....perhaps you have done all these things and it's just one of those rtas that you cannot figure out, which does happen
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The v3 was already tpd compliant...the v3 was never promoted as another lite, from the beginning it was for a slightly airier draw compared to the lights . Tanks are so subjective, so what one thinks is awesome, another might think it's ok and I understand that, but what also happens is that some just never truly master a build or they buy a not so good clone of it and wallah, from that point on their opinion is that it's just ok or even not so good.....over hyped, perhaps, that depends , It might be for those that started vaping just a few years ago, where the choices are many and said person doesn't really know just what svoemesto did with it tanks. Personally I will always hype a kayfun because they were the first vacuum type rta that I vaped and never had issues and it just will always be special to me I suppose....
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Wow, ok.
But did ya know...
The KM3 never came with that "MTL kit" which you claim to have ---> just thought you may like to know.
I would be very curious to know where you got a KM3 MTL kit.
I am going to leave that right there on purpose.
Thinking you will never receive an answer.
Wow, ok.
But did ya know...
The KM3 never came with that "MTL kit" which you claim to have ---> just thought you may like to know.
I would be very curious to know where you got a KM3 MTL kit.
I am going to leave that right there on purpose.
My bad, of course I meant the KF5 with the kit. The so-called "MTL" kit.
I can tell you why my opinion about these devices is not that great. Mind you, I am strictly talking MTL and nothing else.
* KF 5 is a total catastrophe, even with the smallest airflow insert. It simple doesn't have any flavour. The airflow and juice control is atrocious, it's seriously the most bizarre and most uneffective thing I ever saw. But it doesn't matter, since no way how you'd adjust it, it still makes the KF5 a very, very poor atty for MTL
* KF3 Mini is admittedly WAY better (mind you, I am talking clones), but for me for MTL it only works "ok" after some serious modification: Airflow screw never entirely closed, so there is that. I had to plug two (or was it three?) of the inner airflow holes on the stem and insert a piece of a Q-Tip to restrict airflow. PLUS, I taped 3 (!) of the outer intake holes, with the last one taped shut 3/4 to restrict airflow like I want it. (Think KFL+ or Nautilus maybe).
Oh and forgot the ridiculous design flaw with the KF3 Mini that the insulators turned and shorted out the atty, unless you got the improved insulators...or do it like me where I temporarily put a small plastic piece from a credit card in the slit when I tighten the screws so it doesn't turn and shorten out. Seriously??? Not even China atties I'd get from alibaba have such serious flaws.
The atrocious airflow may not be a problem for DL hitters or open MTL hitters (they probably think it's great as it is, no doubt), but what bugs me is that both devices were advertised for MTL. And I consider both poor for MTL.
Pictures of these serious modifications you made or they never happened!
Please, please, please. I really do want to see your modifications. I am not being obnoxious - I really want to see them!I'm only slightly confused...you say your KM3 "is WAY better and a clone" yet in your very last sentence you say "Not even China atties I'd get from alibaba have such serious flaws." Did I miss something?
One advantage the Chinese have is they have the benefit of observing original design releases for a period of time and get the feedback so they can incorporate "improvements".
No designer/manufacturer of atomizers stuck their necks out more than Svoemesto. They were the originators of all the atties that followed. To dismiss this fact would be unfairly discrediting them.
BTW, I have no love for Svoemesto's marketing/distribution. They rank as the worst I've seen. But their groundbreaking designs and quality are second to none. Two different issues.
No designer/manufacturer of atomizers stuck their necks out more than Svoemesto. They were the originators of all the atties that followed. To dismiss this fact would be unfairly discrediting them.
BTW, I have no love for Svoemesto's marketing/distribution. They rank as the worst I've seen. But their groundbreaking designs and quality are second to none. Two different issues.
I guess SvoeMesto confirmed one of the problems i experienced - leaking from the 510, by releasing longer, 6 mm nylon screws for free(?): Lite - 6mm Kunststoffmadenschraube
Also I've managed the heat by using much thinner wires, 28/30 GA 0.25/0.3 mm spaced SS316 at 10-12 watts.
I heard on a review that they are going to release new central pin with reworked airflow intake and 1.2 mm air hole under the coil.
Also I've managed the heat by using much thinner wires, 28/30 GA 0.25/0.3 mm spaced SS316 at 10-12 watts.
I heard on a review that they are going to release new central pin with reworked airflow intake and 1.2 mm air hole under the coil.
That wire and wattage is typically what I use in my Prime. 30 gauge 316, 7 wraps, 8-12 watts. Haven't tried the 2019 Lite but it's on my list.
With the airflow on the Prime, I don't think it is possible to leak through the 510. If I were to design the air flow on the Lite, I would use positive blocks with different diameter air flow holes (like the Dvarw). They've done something similar before (photo below).
Pictures of these serious modifications you made or they never happened!
I'm only slightly confused...you say your KM3 "is WAY better and a clone" yet in your very last sentence you say "Not even China atties I'd get from alibaba have such serious flaws." Did I miss something?
These are admittedly "ghetto modifications", but they work. Too lazy to take out the KF3 now and take images. I clogged all BUT one hole on the inner stem with aluminum foil. (Crumble very tiny pieces of foil and put it in the holes and then smooth the outside. I used aluminum foil since I don't have any other material like a tape that would be heat resistant, and tape would likely also prevent the stem from being inserted again)
For reducing the airflow inside the stem, I cut a very tiny piece of a Q-Tip plastic tube, about 1-2mm in length. (The Q-tip tube has just the right diameter). Shove this inside the "stem", and with a screwdriver etc. shove/adjust so it almost covers that one remaining airhole. (I did this, AFAIK, since my airflow screw/threads were broken out of the box and the screw NEVER closed the airflow entirely. So I used that Q-Tip ring as a way to being able to more close the airflow hole).
And then the rest, just tape all outside intake airholes and leave only one remaining open. It looks ghetto, alright, but at least it provides sorta a good MTL draw.
Wow, you certainly have performed the modifications. Honestly I would have never thought of all that.
Respect and I am happy they're all working out for you.
Thanks and catch you down the line...
Over the years I have had instances where I had to reduce some airflow in a few tanks and what works really good is SS mesh (even better because I have a bunch still left from my genny days). I cut a little sliver, roll it up, and stuff and because it SS, it holds up well.
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Just wanted to give a heads up. Looks like the second batch of Lite 2019 22mm has made it stateside. VapingArt has them in stock. No word of when the 24mm or it's accessories will be back in stock.
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