New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers
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Not sure what all the Fuss is about regarding Testing should reflect Real World conditions?
This testing Apparatus closely resembles what I use when I am at Home.
This testing Apparatus closely resembles what I use when I am at Home.
Do you have a link for a good place for us to get 430SS? And the tcr # setting.. does it work well at 138 tcr or do you adjust it? I've been playing around with SS316l and I agree can be hit or miss some times...
The other question I have is if you are adjusting the tcr settings to read diff than the suggested value from SE are you still getting correct temp readings or are you just tweeking the numbers to get a good vape.. I have seen many peoples posts online that adjust the tcr to get a vape that they like from the wire,...but is that temp control?? I would think not if it is not in the correct tcr setting. I could be wrong, but if you are not in the correct setting for the wire, your temp control would be off. Am I understanding that correctly?
only easy test to tell if your device temp tcr is accurate is cotton burn test. There are flir and ir means to check temp too adjust tcr accordingly
You can keep reading the thread but views vary greatly on that subject. Tc vapers will tell you that without TC you can't tell what temp you are vaping at. That's true but that doesn't mean you are vaping at too high of a temp with kanthal. I believe the safest way to vape is with tc set to 450° or less on a properly set up tc rig but we all have rationalizations for what we do.
just fyi..
I had lots of trouble with my SS316l for a while, trying it in my single coil decks, I just couldn't get it working right.
Dual decks turned out to not be an issue at all, my mods that weren't doing TC correctly with SS in my single decks were all working flawlessly.
More testing on my single coil deck and I eventually figured out that the problem all along. It was simply that I wasn't using enough wire...so as per my previous posts, my advice is to simply put in as large a coil that will fit it your deck.
Simply put: SS's variance is very small, so you need enough metal to register properly.
NI200's variance is huge compared, and why you can get away with much smaller NI coils in builds, some being even too small for some decks. (gauge of wire being a factor)
Yep, the political bureaucrat's irrational inverse reasoning…if it won't be controlled, regulate it + tax it.
Regardless, as I cite often as example…just like the 55 MPH speed limit, people will always resort to what is reasonable and do what they will.
Every controlling paradigm eventually yields to human ingenuity. What remains is the force and aggression of government, unchallenged. It persists, if we allow it, to promote the indefensible.
Good luck.
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I have not used this 430ss. I'm still working on a spool I got from a friend. It came from zivipf in Germany.
138 tcr should work with 430ss. See chart.
When you get a new spool of wire, any wire, it's a good idea to test it's tcr using the 420°f dry cotton browning test. Once I find the actual tcr for a new spool I mark the tcr on the spool.
I've playing around with it on my Pico with RDAs. In SS mode I get a good vape at 420f.. if I set it to the correct tcr 88 420f it stinks.. 470 not good but very cool vapor but flavor is weak.
Tcr of 92 (316) not a good vape(420-470) and not the same as the default SS. Can't find out what the default setting is I thought it was 316l.
I guess it's time to cook some cotton Bacon.
Nice tip. Thanks.
I had to adjust my tcr to 100 ish from the 88 se had recommended each spool will vary. Best to calibrate first then test vape at diff temps
I fooled around with TCR for a while with the Koopor Plus 200W before giving up and going back to power mode. I didn't get the memo on Ni200 and tried to dry burn and anneal! Not a fun experience. I went to SS316 that works well for most in power mode and tried the TCR at 88-92 and got terrible hot and crackly vapes. Running TCR up and down in small increments through a wide range didn't work. There's no wattage set mode in TC for the Koopor Plus 200W. They send you to the hard, normal, soft, max, min modes to adjust the vape intensiy for TC mode.
I have several other TC mods now. Maybe it's time to try it again,
I have several other TC mods now. Maybe it's time to try it again,
single or dual coil? It's been said here ss316l can be finicky in single coil (I wouldn't know only dc here) ss430 has been recommended which I want to try but haven't found trustworthy source for 26 awg
Maybe someday the FDA will allow Evolve to release their next generation board.
One that recognizes the wire, no fiddling with TCRs, no computer hook up, gives a great vape, truly plug and play.
For use in open tank systems of course.
One that recognizes the wire, no fiddling with TCRs, no computer hook up, gives a great vape, truly plug and play.
For use in open tank systems of course.
Not sure why you Wouldn't?
All it takes a Little Time and some Good Jazz playing in the background.
Hasn't this study been dubunked? Saying that if you were to hit the vape while it was that hot that it wouldn't taste good and you wouldn't even be able to hit it or like it. Now this 470 degrees this is all new , but I've been sub ohm vaping that high for years and itntaste just fine. That's just my opinion but I thought this got debunked all ready.
Ok after testing and burning some Bacon.. 100 tcr on the Pico is good for SS316L and provides at 420f-440. Don't know what the default settings for SS are still but gonna stick with tcr 100. That test was done on a single coil RDA.
Now I know that it works cause I have an RDA and RTAs, but what about those that are Vaping on pre built tank coils? They can not do these tests and have to rely on mod maker to be accurate for them. Many have proven time and time again that they are not accurate...
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