Buzz was probably from carbon monoxide leading to a lack of oxygen.
But if you want that calming effect, you might want to try some WTA liquids.
Those MAOIs might be what you're looking for.
Nicotine less addictive via vaping then smoking?
- Thread starter thatrandy
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
But if you want that calming effect, you might want to try some WTA liquids.
Those MAOIs might be what you're looking for.
Absolutely!
In fact the CDC has never tested a single person that did not have nicotine in their system ... NOT ONE ... (it's called the background level)
Again: Nicotine is in our food chain, and 100% of the people on earth are addicted to eating.
You're spending way to much time at the office!
Last edited:
Niacin is a vitamin.
Niacin is nicotinic acid.
Make of it what you will...
Niacin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Niacin is nicotinic acid.
Make of it what you will...
Niacin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Sorry, but I was asking not about properties of nicotine, but about confirmation of your statement that "It took millions of years for life forms to develop a brain capable of subjective thinking. Nicotine played a key role in that."
Nicotine less addictive via vaping then smoking?
I'm not sure how to Answer something like this? Because I don't know how to Quantify "Less"?
I know some people who use e-Cigarettes about like they Smoked. Take some Hits, put it down for 45 minutes or an Hour, take some more hits. They don't freak out when they go someplace that Doesn't allow e-Cigarettes. Just like they Didn't freak out when they went to those Same Places and couldn't Smoke.
But I also know Some People who can't get from the Cab to the Curb without taking a Hit. And I rarely see them without a Mod in their hand.
I'm not Exactly sure how much the Nicotine plays in all this? Because some people seem to have the Same/Less Level of Addiction. And some, seem to be Much More Addicted to Using e-Cigarette.
I'm not sure how to Answer something like this? Because I don't know how to Quantify "Less"?
I know some people who use e-Cigarettes about like they Smoked. Take some Hits, put it down for 45 minutes or an Hour, take some more hits. They don't freak out when they go someplace that Doesn't allow e-Cigarettes. Just like they Didn't freak out when they went to those Same Places and couldn't Smoke.
But I also know Some People who can't get from the Cab to the Curb without taking a Hit. And I rarely see them without a Mod in their hand.
I'm not Exactly sure how much the Nicotine plays in all this? Because some people seem to have the Same/Less Level of Addiction. And some, seem to be Much More Addicted to Using e-Cigarette.
And I truly believe that tobacco does not needs any additives to be addictive. For example, it contains MAOI - if you remember some activists tried to accuse BT that it was adding this substances to tobacco. Unfortunately for them MAOI is natural component of tobacco:
This may be reflected in the difficulty of smoking cessation, as tobacco contains naturally-occurring MAOI compounds in addition to the nicotine.[33][34][35]
Monoamine oxidase inhibitor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I do know very well that natural tobacco without additives is very addictive. Know many people who became dependent (myself included). And what about movies cowboys? Do you think they were not addicted?
Less addicted to nicotine.
More addicted to the hand-to-mouth activity of vaping.
Or at least more free to enjoy, due to less repercussions.
Nothing to see here.
Just common sense going on.
OK. I will make.
Glycerin is a component of e-juice.
Dynamite is made of trinitro glycerin.
What I am vaping...
Less addicted to nicotine.
More addicted to the hand-to-mouth activity of vaping.
Or at least more free to enjoy, due to less repercussions.
Nothing to see here.
Just common sense going on.
Yeah... The Hand to Mouth, Oral Fixation, plays a Role in this. At Least, I believe it does for Me.
Here's a Question though. If you use 0mg all day, do you feel the Same as you do using your current Nicotine Level?
the reason you have not experienced nicotine cravings ... you are just a part-time vaper who consumes very small amounts of nicotine.
start vaping every day at the levels we vape to get off cigarettes ... and you will experience nicotine cravings after some long term usage.
similar to how I am a part-time alcohol drinker ... however, I never crave alcohol.
however, if one started drinking every day with an increase in alcohol levels ... one would eventually develop a dependancy on it.
nicotine, caffeine and alcohol all work in a very similar addictive manner.
From my own experience, it's less addictive.
Example: I've been fasting for a month (Ramadan). My nicotine cravings are less now than when I was doing the fast last year. Last year I couldn't wait for to break fast so I could have a stinky. Now I'm not that desperate for a vape when I'm fasting. I vape 3mg nicotine on a sub ohm tank btw.
Example: I've been fasting for a month (Ramadan). My nicotine cravings are less now than when I was doing the fast last year. Last year I couldn't wait for to break fast so I could have a stinky. Now I'm not that desperate for a vape when I'm fasting. I vape 3mg nicotine on a sub ohm tank btw.
I truly believe that nicotine via vaping is less addicting that via smoking. When I was a smoker a little over 6 months ago, I couldn't go four hours without lighting up. If I left the house without my pack, as soon as I noticed that I had forgotten it at home I would either turn around to get it, or stop in the nearest gas station to pick up a pack. With vaping, I can easily go without vaping for 6 hours or more. Several times I had forgotten my mod when I left the house and didn't have the urge to turn around and go home to get it. I just went without until I got home.
Agree 150%. Could not agree more! In my experience, any 'addiction' from vaping nicotine is really nothing compared to addiction to nicotine via cigarettes. I can literally go for days without vaping and not feel a thing. (btw, I dropped very quickly from 18 mg when I started vaping to 6 mg-----within the first 6 months. I now vape 3-6 mg, and at times, 0 nic.)
I've never used zero nicotine, but I have gone multiple days in a row without vaping.
And I felt the same, physically, as any other day, vaping or not.
But I realize that I may very well be different than others.
And others may or may not experience the same things I do or do not experience.
I usually don't even start vaping these days until after work.
So I'm pretty sure that alone would make me a bit different from most here.
I tried maybe 4 black & milds in my whole life........ so not at all really
I've never used zero nicotine, but I have gone multiple days in a row without vaping.
And I felt the same, physically, as any other day, vaping or not.
But I realize that I may very well be different than others.
And others may or may not experience the same things I do or do not experience.
I usually don't even start vaping these days until after work.
So I'm pretty sure that alone would make me a bit different from most here.
If you Don't feel any different whether you Vape Nicotine, 0mg, or Don't Vape, then I Don't see any signs of an Addiction.
But when you say you feel the same "physically", do you Also feel the same Mentally?
Feeling differently Physically is a good sign of a Chemical Dependency.
I don't feel any different Physically when I use 0mg or Don't vape for a Day. But Mentally I feel on Edge. I have that Nagging Feeling just like I did at the End of Quitting Smoking.
I'm just addicted to vaping as I was to smoking (20 year smoker). Neither is an addition purely to nicotine. There's a lot of rituals around both activities and the combination of ALL of them (INCLUDING nicotine), create a very powerful addition. One doesn't really work without all the others. This is why vaping works for quitting analogs and nicotine patches do not.
Nicotine Replacement Therapy Labels May Change
Nicotine Replacement Therapy Labels May Change
Quote:
"The changes that FDA is allowing to these labels reflect the fact that although any nicotine-containing product is potentially addictive, decades of research and use have shown that NRT products sold OTC do not appear to have significant potential for abuse or dependence."
"The NRT gum and patch products were switched to OTC marketing between 1996 and 2002, based on scientific research showing that these products were safe for use without a prescription. The nicotine lozenge and mini-lozenge were approved directly for OTC use in 2002 and 2009, respectively."
Nicotine Propaganda
Nicotine Propaganda
The Great Nicotine Myth
Is Nicotine Addictive ?
Nicotine Clinical Trials: Why Aren't There Any?
Quotes:
"It is unlikely that an honest trial of nicotine's potential for dependence could be carried out at this time, since the results would likely be catastrophic for some commercial agendas and ideologies. We should be looking for historical examples that have been removed from view due to their unacceptable results, as with the CDC trial of nicotine in the population."
"2. FDA announces nicotine not addictive or dangerous
In April 2013 the FDA announced they no longer considered nicotine to be dependence-creating, liable to abuse, or dangerous if over-consumed.
In their Consumer Updates, they proposed removing several of the warning labels from NRTs. They have now conceded that several decades of evidence from nicotine-containing meds sales demonstrates that nicotine has no measurable potential for addiction and presents no danger of harm through overdose."
Nicotine Replacement Therapy Labels May Change
Quote:
"The changes that FDA is allowing to these labels reflect the fact that although any nicotine-containing product is potentially addictive, decades of research and use have shown that NRT products sold OTC do not appear to have significant potential for abuse or dependence."
"The NRT gum and patch products were switched to OTC marketing between 1996 and 2002, based on scientific research showing that these products were safe for use without a prescription. The nicotine lozenge and mini-lozenge were approved directly for OTC use in 2002 and 2009, respectively."
Nicotine Propaganda
Nicotine Propaganda
The Great Nicotine Myth
Is Nicotine Addictive ?
Nicotine Clinical Trials: Why Aren't There Any?
Quotes:
"It is unlikely that an honest trial of nicotine's potential for dependence could be carried out at this time, since the results would likely be catastrophic for some commercial agendas and ideologies. We should be looking for historical examples that have been removed from view due to their unacceptable results, as with the CDC trial of nicotine in the population."
"2. FDA announces nicotine not addictive or dangerous
In April 2013 the FDA announced they no longer considered nicotine to be dependence-creating, liable to abuse, or dangerous if over-consumed.
In their Consumer Updates, they proposed removing several of the warning labels from NRTs. They have now conceded that several decades of evidence from nicotine-containing meds sales demonstrates that nicotine has no measurable potential for addiction and presents no danger of harm through overdose."
- Status
Similar threads
