I'm all in favor of providing opinions and experiences.
I'm not a fan of people thinking their experiences define what is fact and what is not.
Last edited:
Nicotine less addictive via vaping then smoking?
- Thread starter thatrandy
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
I'm not a fan of people thinking their experiences define what is fact and what is not.
So to you, an Addiction is being enslaved to a Habit to such an extent that its cessation causes severe trauma?
---
Just want to get the Meanings straight for Individuals. Because Different Individuals use Different Words many times mean Different Things.
Did you Notice that Mr. Kearney never put down his PV during that Video?
A Clear Sign of Dependency.
That's like Americans with water bottles. I see people going into the Target carrying a water bottle. Just how long do they plan on shopping? It's the easiest way to spot American tourists in Prague. The obsession with water bottles has gotten out of hand...
That pretty much covers it.
Understood. Though you can usually understand the meaning from the context in which the words are used.
I couldn't agree more. Google "Penn and Teller Water Bottle Survey". It's freaking hilarious!
Just me.
But I think Half of why some People have gotten So Bent in this thread is Because one person uses a Word that has a certain Meaning to them, but when Another person hears that Same Word, their Perception of the Word is Different.
Take the word "Addiction".
I do not put an overly Negative Connotation on that word. And I do Not see Addiction or like to Imply that Addiction is a Derogatory Term. But I know that Many People Do think it has a Negative Implication.
And Many will become Defensive and in some cases, Extremely Angry, if they are told that they are "Addicted" to something.
It's even more fun when you're not even addicted (or dependent) in the first place.
And then they proceed to tell you that you are in denial.
That's always my favorite!
It's even more fun when you're not even addicted (or dependent) in the first place.
And then they proceed to tell you that you are in denial.
That's always my favorite!
Denial.
Isn't that a River in Egypt?
OK, I'll just leave this here and then be on my merry way.
Nicotine Propaganda
Quotes:
"Use of the term 'addictive' is deliberately emotive and used for the purpose of inflaming the debate when applied to a material for which harm is impossible to measure reliably; it is incorrect because modern custom is to use the word 'dependence' and 'dependence forming' for a material causing no reliably measurable harm (e.g. coffee, for which there is some evidence for dependence creation)."
"'Addictive' is used when the custom or consumption is likely to cause reliably-identifiable harm of some kind (e.g. gambling addiction, {Moderated} addiction)."
"There is no evidence that nicotine is dependence-forming except in tobacco smoke along with a mix of 9,600 other compounds including multiple synergens and boosters. Describing one item from a list of 9,600 as responsible for the whole is a gross logic error. Ketchup could be made to create dependence with such an ingredient profile"
Last edited by a moderator:
Links please, to peer reviewed studies proving that nicotine is carcinogenic, or that nicotine, delivered by a method other than within tobacco, creates strong dependencies. You cannot, because those are not facts, those are ANTZ propaganda points you are repeating without any factual basis.
Last edited:
its very hard to distinguish the connotation being used in any word.
when it comes to the word addiction and addict the mental imagery that almost
any one has is that wino by the tracks or,those people that live under the bridge.
your just an addict just like the before and after picture on the billboard anti-(bad stuff)
PSA's.
how anyone can use these descriptors in a non-negative way escapes me.
regards
mike
Rated up. The word "addiction" is always used in a very derogatory way. The word, prior to the Age Of PC, was previously used (in pop culture) only to describe very detrimental "recreational pharmaceutical" habits that destroyed most or all the lives it touched. Anyone suggesting otherwise is hiding behind PC semantics.its very hard to distinguish the connotation being used in any word.
when it comes to the word addiction and addict the mental imagery that almost
any one has is that wino by the tracks or,those people that live under the bridge.
your just an addict just like the before and after picture on the billboard anti-(bad stuff)
PSA's.
how anyone can use these descriptors in a non-negative way escapes me.
regards
mike
its very hard to distinguish the connotation being used in any word.
when it comes to the word addiction and addict the mental imagery that almost
any one has is that wino by the tracks or,those people that live under the bridge.
your just an addict just like the before and after picture on the billboard anti-(bad stuff)
PSA's.
how anyone can use these descriptors in a non-negative way escapes me.
regards
mike
I just Don't have that type of Mental Imagery when I hear the word "Addiction" used in the Context of this thread.
And without context, if I had to try a put a Single Face on a person who has an Addiction (which would be Difficult) I might see a Middle Age working person, Married or Not Married, with or without Children, who is Abusing a Prescription Drug.
Describing a person, to me, who has an Addiction isn't a statement of their Moral Character. Or about whether a Person is a Good Person or a Bad Person. It is Solely a description about a person's Ability to Control the use of a Substance.
Just like the word "Alcoholic". Sure, many people will use that word as a Derogatory term in certain situations. Not saying that some won't. But once again, when I hear that word without Context, the mental Image that probably first comes to mind would be those same Middle Age working people who I described earlier.
I guess a lot, as Coldrake said, depends on the Context.
And in the Context of this Thread, I Don't Think most people are using the word Addiction as a Judgment of others.
You are describing two forms of chemical abuse that destroy lives. To say that you have no negative connotations is disingenuous, methinks.
If you believe that All People Always use the word Addition in a Very Derogatory way, then I can see why you appear to be Upset by some of the things people have Posted in this thread.
That is Unfortunate. Because if a person is Not using the word Addiction as a Derogatory term, then you Mis-Understood what the person had to Say.
what do you think when an ANTZ uses the word addiction or addict?
what do you believe they want you to think when they use those words?
people not only use these words as a judgement but,as the nail they
hope to hammer their arguments down.
your an addict. your opinion doesn't mater.
regards
mike
Be careful of telling someone what they, themselves, are thinking.
He worded that very carefully.
Those are His thoughts, not thoughts that he feels others are thinking.
God, I just made my brain hurt
again
Didn't say that the word Addiction can not have a Negative Connotation. Or that people can not Use the Word to imply a Negative Connotation.
- Status
Similar threads
