Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part 2

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Uncle Willie

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All this makes me wonder if the biological causes of depression increases the chance of becoming addicted to cigarettes.

I can still clearly remember the first smoke .. I was around 14-15, hanging with what back then was considered the crew that was maybe somewhat off center .. we'd gather up during lunch or break in our own area and many smoked .. I got offered one and I took it .. choked it down literally, coughing the whole way .. but, it was the cool thing to do, Hollywood glamorized it, everyone was doing it .. etc .. so, I kept at it and got really good .. ;)

I'm no biochemist, but when I read your post, I sat back in the chair and thought about it for a few minutes .. during those formative years, we are prone to the standard Teenage angst, peer pressure, the need to fit in yet still having the need to be unique .. we're breaking away from the authority (at least I was) .. although both my Mom and Dad smoked .. we're going thru the gamut of hormonal changes .. and I'd guess no other period in life poses as many challenges of a physical and mental nature ..

Since I'd also have to guess that this is the time most pick up the tobacco habit, it would also explain why most folks that are tobacco free don't start up later in life ..

Just a random thought and speculation to an interesting question .. :)
 

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Hi, all, still hanging in there. I have been enjoying the musical selections. My 1st concert was Badfinger, back in the 70's. I also saw Grand Funk Railroad, and I was a big fan of Chicago and Three Dog Night. Some of you will remember that I saw Three Dog Night 2 years ago, and they are still wonderful. I never really got into the "classics", although I enjoy them when I happen to hear them from time to time. Now I listen mostly to pop country, don't judge...

Welcome to the porch to the new comers! And congrats on all of the vaping anniversaries! I, myself have hit 3 years and nearly 4 months, and I can't believe it. BTW, where is this great deal of the nic? Please enlighten me. I just don't have the energy to read all of the posts.

I also suffer from clinical depression, panic disorder, and generalized anxiety disorder, and have been on maintenance meds for over 20 years, which have done very well for me, mostly. I have had bouts of severe health anxiety as well, but since getting one of the worst medical diagnoses this year, CANCER, I am not so prone to worrying about my health so much. Instead, it has helped my to prioritize what's really important and to appreciate every day for what it is.

Cancer update: I had my 6th and final chemotherapy of this regimen yesterday, and then the Neulasta shot today. The doc is giving my a month or 2 to get some strength back from the onslaught of the chemo, then we'll see. Every hair on my body has vacated, and I imagine I'll be seeing it growing back again over the next few months if given the chance. .Although it's not completely gone, most of my cancer has responded very well to the chemo, except for one area on my neck, which is growing like crazy instead of shrinking. It's about the size of a golf ball now. I will soon be having surgery from an accomplished head and neck surgeon to have that removed along with surrounding tissue, and we are hoping it will offer some clues as to my primary cancer, since it has not been discovered yet. I am very tired most of the time, and I get very little done. Today, I am still hyped up on massive doses of steroids from yesterday and the night before, so I though I'd check in. I'll start crashing from the steroids, and the Neulasta will kick sometime tonight, and I'll be in bed for the next week. I don't know what the future holds for me in this regard, whether it'll be more chemo, radiation, or more surgery, but I say, "Bring it on, and make me better! I am a tough b**ch!!" Friends and family continue to show their love by bringing us scrumptious meals to help out, along with caring phone calls and visits, and we feel so loved. I want to thank all of you sincerely for your prayers and good thoughts! Your prayers and support have sustained us during and very scary and difficult time, and we are so very grateful. Please continue to pray for us. Love you all.
 

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Ya'll got me thinking about smoking. I guess you could say I really had my first hit of nic right after my mother did because I am sure she had a cigarette afterwards.
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Growing up I was always around 2nd hand smoke. I know this is going to sound awful but at the age of 5 my neighbor (who I adored) would give me two pipes to fill. Mine only half way and I only packed his with the big nail. We would smoke a pipe every afternoon before his wife got home. Yes I know now that was wrong of him but it is what it is and no one really knew the dangers back then and evidently was low on common sense too. But thank God, this man also taught me how to fry chicken standing on a stool. I don't need the stool anymore but I still love my fried chicken. After I got on up in school, probably 6th grade, all the kids smoked. As I got even older, my parents always told me not to do anything behind their back so me and my mom started smoking together. And I'll tell ya right now those were great times and some of my fondest memories. If she was here right now, I just know we'd be vaping together and laughing.

I guess if this story has any point to it at all (which I realize most of mine are lacking)............it is I was a smoker long before I met the black cloud that hovers over me. (no sympathy needed, we have become BFF's)

It makes sense to me now why I love vaping so much. I still have a troop of monkeys on my back I got rid of one. :D

Ya'll have a great weekend.


Hey Uncle Willie........do you hear Aerosmith?
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Don't see that as wrong since back in da day it was normal. No one knew. Not to mention it helped with everyday life stresses.

Thing that is wrong is today everyone (non smokers) says don't vape where it seems it's the only way to quit the smokes. No proof whatsoever that it isn't safe. Albeit none that it really is, but everything points to safety so far. At the very least, safer than smoking.

And FWIW, I seem to be getting a ton of "natural cannibis" e-liquid email ads. (That I haven't clicked on)
 

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Hugs to all who are dealing with depression issues, it's a dark lonely road to travel. I realize that we don't really "know" each other personally here, but all the same, you folks are like family to me. Just wanted to say that if anyone here ever needs to talk late at night I'm usually skulking around the forums, feel free to shoot a pm, OK? Really, OK? I have an understanding heart, a good ear for listening, and a pretty good repertoire of dirty jokes..... ;)
 

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All this makes me wonder if the biological causes of depression increases the chance of becoming addicted to cigarettes.

I am almost positive it does.

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I guess if this story has any point to it at all (which I realize most of mine are lacking)............it is I was a smoker long before I met the black cloud that hovers over me. (no sympathy needed, we have become BFF's)

It makes sense to me now why I love vaping so much. I still have a troop of monkeys on my back I got rid of one.

Great post!


Hey Izzi, Sam's club in your neck of the woods made ABC news. Christmas decorations and stuff out already. Unbelievable. :)

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And no, dere is no 'fa' wid da string of 'la's! Guess dey didn't get rid of last years ol stock...
 

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Hi, all, still hanging in there.

{{{Jewels}}} so good to hear from you. 3+ years smoke free. Janet and I are approaching our 3 month vapeversay. Gee - you were one of my 1st ECF friends - remember way back when we were making our own carto tanks from syringe tubes. And it's your fault I'm a co-op junky. Yours' was my first co-op for carto tanks.

Praying that soon you'll be saying 3 months, 6 months, then 1 year "C" free.

Hugs to all who are dealing with depression issues, it's a dark lonely road to travel. I realize that we don't really "know" each other personally here, but all the same, you folks are like family to me. Just wanted to say that if anyone here ever needs to talk late at night I'm usually skulking around the forums, feel free to shoot a pm, OK? Really, OK? I have an understanding heart, a good ear for listening, and a pretty good repertoire of dirty jokes..... ;)

umm, uhhh - even if I'm not 'down' can I get in touch some night just to hear the jokes? :ohmy:
 

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Watching NASCAR Nationwide race. Just watched 5 driver dump buckets of ice on Mike Helton. Paid $1000 each to ALS for the privilege. Kinda cool the way this has taken off. Heard it's raised $50 mil for ALS research so far.

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Jewels, Read your post to my wife and she said to remind you of the small bright side. At least you don't have to worry about shaving your legs! :) She was my strength when I was diagnosed. 100% there throughout.

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