Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part 2

[amoret]

All this makes me wonder if the biological causes of depression increases the chance of becoming addicted to cigarettes.

The answer is yes. Or what actually happens is nicotine is an antidepressant in and of itself. Smoking also adds small amounts of MAO inhibitors, also antidepressant.

I've been dealing with depression all of my life as well. With medications it can take a lot of trial and error. In my case I thought I was doing better with sertraline, but when they added wellbutrin (to help with quitting smoking, though it didn't) it was as though a switch had been turned on and I started feeling like I assume "normal" people do. Later they thought it was just the wellbutrin and tried taking off the sertraline and it was back to just maintaining. For me the combination is what works.

As far as Parkinson's, depression is definitely a symptom. It affects well over half of Parkinson's patients, way more than any other major chronic disease. Other symptoms that probably would also have been exceptionally hard on Robin Williams are lack of facial expression and the voice becoming soft and monotone. These are hard on all people with Parkinson's, imagine what they would have meant for him.

 

[3mg Meniere]

Depression is also part of fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. But that is primarily because stress contribute to all of them.

 

[my4jewels]

{{{Jewels}}} so good to hear from you. 3+ years smoke free. Janet and I are approaching our 3 month vapeversay. Gee - you were one of my 1st ECF friends - remember way back when we were making our own carto tanks from syringe tubes. And it's your fault I'm a co-op junky. Yours' was my first co-op for carto tanks.

Praying that soon you'll be saying 3 months, 6 months, then 1 year "C" free.

I think you mean it'll soon be 3 years for you and Janet, not months. I do recall that you anniversary is shortly after mine. Oh, yes, I remember the chase to make the perfect carto tank. What fun! I decided to stay with carto tanks as my preferred vaping choice. Once I found the perfect size O rings for replacements, I was very happy with my setup. I stayed with them because I have a gazillion flavors, and it's just easier to keep up.

Jewels, Read your post to my wife and she said to remind you of the small bright side. At least you don't have to worry about shaving your legs! She was my strength when I was diagnosed. 100% there throughout.
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Yes, Matt, I usually reveal the "silver lining" of chemo, not having had to shave my legs all summer, not to mention how quick and easy it is to get ready for the day. I don't really mind the physical changes. I have lots of beautiful scarves and made some cute hats. It's kind of fun to experiment with different looks. The hair I miss the most are my eye brows and eye lashes, and it's too much trouble to try to recreate them, but it's no big deal, really. My goal is to be of help to others someday who are going through this same crazy cancer. Cancer of unknown primary is frustrating and difficult to treat. Mine is adenocarcinoma, and my onc says it's like the game, Whack a Mole. As soon as you knock one down, another one pops up. Oh, well, today is today, I'm not going to worry about tomorrow...

 

[MattB101]

Having been suitably chastised we shall move the workshop discussion here!

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 Android phone on a keyboard that waaayyy too small (or my thumbs are waaayyy too big).

 

[MattB101]

Not upset at all by the way. Bells it was a good call. Don't want to p... off the powers that be.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2 Android phone on a keyboard that waaayyy too small (or my thumbs are waaayyy too big).

 

[Uncle Willie]

Yes, Matt, I usually reveal the "silver lining" of chemo, not having had to shave my legs all summer, not to mention how quick and easy it is to get ready for the day. I don't really mind the physical changes. Oh, well, today is today, I'm not going to worry about tomorrow...

I'm gonna step out on a real thin limb here, but, we've known each other for a while and I think you know, at least I hope, that it's all good ..

Women (and even some men for that matter, although I'll keep my Chest Rug thank you very much ..) .. pay good money to get waxed .. the hairless look is all the rage .. "Bald is the New Black" .. "I'm Too Sexy for My Hair" .. I'm ordering T-Shirts with those and I've filed a Copywrite ..

And trust me on this .. if you acquire one of those Lady Godiva wigs that is floor length, parading around the house while it's just you and The Mister, with just the wig on, is gonna get some, shall we say "attention" .. ??

And if by chance you had a medi-port installed, I read of a gadget that will hook up a wine bottle .. just sayin' ..

At any rate, it's all about the love, ChemoSabe .. because when it's all said and done, ain't no big C that can bring you down, because too many are pulling for you to win this fight, me included .. while I can't even imagine walking in your shoes, I can clearly see you doing a line dance to some Toby Keith / Alan Jackson ..

And now that I've probably offended the delicate sensibilities of half the thread crew, let's get on with it .. just mouse over to that volume control and crank it up .. Righteous Indignation or not ..

 

[Uncle Willie]

 

[Uncle Willie]

 

[Uncle Willie]

 

[Uncle Willie]

 

[garyoa1]

Alan Jackson... Good job. Not really a country fan but he does a great job. Of course, there's Eddie.

 

[2legsshrt]

Mike E3. I tried the higher resitstance in the Kayfun plus using the cellucotton put in the coil so that is fits tight. I cut it right to the top of the first part of the chimney then stuff it down real lightly and spread around half on each side. What a difference, I wrapped a 9 wrap at 28 AWG and 2.4 mm came out 1.6 ohms and everything is better. The cellucotton seems to be lasting longer and like you said I have more lee way anywhere from 3.2v to 3.6v with no burnt taste. I love it, I tried leaving little bunny ears on the rayon but it was too much cotton but now it is vaping super with a 50/50 blend. I'm using it on my new Mango recipe that I sent Janet and I'm going to set my RY4 KFL today can't wait.

 

[my4jewels]

I'm gonna step out on a real thin limb here, but, we've known each other for a while and I think you know, at least I hope, that it's all good ..

Women (and even some men for that matter, although I'll keep my Chest Rug thank you very much ..) .. pay good money to get waxed .. the hairless look is all the rage .. "Bald is the New Black" .. "I'm Too Sexy for My Hair" .. I'm ordering T-Shirts with those and I've filed a Copywrite ..

And trust me on this .. if you acquire one of those Lady Godiva wigs that is floor length, parading around the house while it's just you and The Mister, with just the wig on, is gonna get some, shall we say "attention" .. ??

And if by chance you had a medi-port installed, I read of a gadget that will hook up a wine bottle .. just sayin' ..

At any rate, it's all about the love, ChemoSabe .. because when it's all said and done, ain't no big C that can bring you down, because too many are pulling for you to win this fight, me included .. while I can't even imagine walking in your shoes, I can clearly see you doing a line dance to some Toby Keith / Alan Jackson ..

And now that I've probably offended the delicate sensibilities of half the thread crew, let's get on with it .. just mouse over to that volume control and crank it up .. Righteous Indignation or not ..

Oh, Sweetie, you certainly haven't offended my sensibilities, made me laugh out loud. I doubt that anyone else objects to your comments. The songs were awesome! You and the gang here are some of my best friends in the world, and I hope you all know that! Willie, I know you have been through some really hard times, but you always seem to pop up at just the right time to brighten someone's day. For that, the whole thread thanks you, I'm sure. You're right, it's all about the love. Yeah, I have a port installed, but I'm not allowed to have any adult beverages, unfortunately. My poor liver is working so hard to get rid of the poisin they pump me up with during chemo. Although I'd love to have a nice fruity drinkie right now. Soon, Brutha, soon, I'll be hanging from the chandelier and wearing a lampshade for my hat!

 

[2legsshrt]

You know what I was on Prozac for 10 years. They had me up to double the usual dose either 40mg or 80mg can't remember. Then I lost my legs, OK that was a big deal but I tried not to let it bother me. Then I had my aortic valve replaced which didn't go well actually made my heart worse in some ways and that was a big deal but I decided I didn't need the anti-depressants any more. I quit them, smoking, drinking all very close together and I started feeling better. Thank God for vaping. I still have my bouts with depression where I feel worthless to anyone and even consider taking too many tranqs and going to sleep but I don't. I try to think back of all the things I've done in my life a lot of which I regret now because of what it did to my body but a lot was really good too. I am still vertical and not horizontal which is good. I need the tranqs just about daily for panic attacks with my heart but sometimes I think back on the 10 years of Prozac and wonder if it was all necessary. I think of all the good times I been missing having good times like the song says, and I actually feel sort of good. I never cried when I was on Prozac and after I quit when things would happen that would cause a person to cry I did. I wonder how many other feelings it masked. I have a lot more to be depressed about now then then yet I'm not most of the time. I do get so ...... off at myself because of the things I use to be able to do but can't and I hate asking someone else to do for me. I'm gonna get by for however much time I have left on this earth and hope for the best. With all the things I've done to myself it is a wonder I'm still alive, a lot of my friends aren't. I just want to be thankful for what I do have. This place to come and vent is one of them. Things could be worse.

 

[Uncle Willie]

Oh, Sweetie, you certainly haven't offended my sensibilities, made me laugh out loud. I doubt that anyone else objects to your comments. The songs were awesome! You and the gang here are some of my best friends in the world, and I hope you all know that! Willie, I know you have been through some really hard times, but you always seem to pop up at just the right time to brighten someone's day. For that, the whole thread thanks you, I'm sure. You're right, it's all about the love. Yeah, I have a port installed, but I'm not allowed to have any adult beverages, unfortunately. My poor liver is working so hard to get rid of the poisin they pump me up with during chemo. Although I'd love to have a nice fruity drinkie right now. Soon, Brutha, soon, I'll be hanging from the chandelier and wearing a lampshade for my hat!

Now that's the girl that I know ..

 

[my4jewels]

You know what I was on Prozac for 10 years. They had me up to double the usual dose either 40mg or 80mg can't remember. Then I lost my legs, OK that was a big deal but I tried not to let it bother me. Then I had my aortic valve replaced which didn't go well actually made my heart worse in some ways and that was a big deal but I decided I didn't need the anti-depressants any more. I quit them, smoking, drinking all very close together and I started feeling better. Thank God for vaping. I still have my bouts with depression where I feel worthless to anyone and even consider taking too many tranqs and going to sleep but I don't. I try to think back of all the things I've done in my life a lot of which I regret now because of what it did to my body but a lot was really good too. I am still vertical and not horizontal which is good. I need the tranqs just about daily for panic attacks with my heart but sometimes I think back on the 10 years of Prozac and wonder if it was all necessary. I think of all the good times I been missing having good times like the song says, and I actually feel sort of good. I never cried when I was on Prozac and after I quit when things would happen that would cause a person to cry I did. I wonder how many other feelings it masked. I have a lot more to be depressed about now then then yet I'm not most of the time. I do get so ...... off at myself because of the things I use to be able to do but can't and I hate asking someone else to do for me. I'm gonna get by for however much time I have left on this earth and hope for the best. With all the things I've done to myself it is a wonder I'm still alive, a lot of my friends aren't. I just want to be thankful for what I do have. This place to come and vent is one of them. Things could be worse.

So glad you're still with us. And glad you found the porch! Waking up in the morning is always better than the alternative.

 

[MikeE3]

Mike E3. I tried the higher resitstance in the Kayfun plus using the cellucotton put in the coil so that is fits tight. I cut it right to the top of the first part of the chimney then stuff it down real lightly and spread around half on each side. What a difference, I wrapped a 9 wrap at 28 AWG and 2.4 mm came out 1.6 ohms and everything is better. The cellucotton seems to be lasting longer and like you said I have more lee way anywhere from 3.2v to 3.6v with no burnt taste. I love it, I tried leaving little bunny ears on the rayon but it was too much cotton but now it is vaping super with a 50/50 blend. I'm using it on my new Mango recipe that I sent Janet and I'm going to set my RY4 KFL today can't wait.

Glad to hear the higher-Ω coil is working better for you. Here's how I do my tails. After pulling the rayon or cotton through the wick, I wet them with a bit of juice. Then with a fat pin I begin to tuck them 'in' - they'll usually be too long. So I trim some of the ends, once, maybe twice so that they just touch the deck and sit back a little from the end/juice channel, with an easy bend coming from the coil (don't want a 90 degree bend there to choke the wicking). This leaves the wick all positioned, then I screw on the chimney ring, take a look that I haven't disturbed the wick, then put it all together.

I used to put the chimney wick on, then cut the wick to that height or a little taller. Then tuck the wick down into place. The current way I do it works out much better for me. YMMV

Oh, Sweetie, you certainly haven't offended my sensibilities, made me laugh out loud. I doubt that anyone else objects to your comments. The songs were awesome! You and the gang here are some of my best friends in the world, and I hope you all know that! Willie, I know you have been through some really hard times, but you always seem to pop up at just the right time to brighten someone's day. For that, the whole thread thanks you, I'm sure. You're right, it's all about the love. Yeah, I have a port installed, but I'm not allowed to have any adult beverages, unfortunately. My poor liver is working so hard to get rid of the poisin they pump me up with during chemo. Although I'd love to have a nice fruity drinkie right now. Soon, Brutha, soon, I'll be hanging from the chandelier and wearing a lampshade for my hat!

You got that right.

And ... I'll be watching for the pictures of you swinging from the chandelier ....

You know what I was on Prozac for 10 years. They had me up to double the usual dose either 40mg or 80mg can't remember. Then I lost my legs, OK that was a big deal but I tried not to let it bother me. Then I had my aortic valve replaced which didn't go well actually made my heart worse in some ways and that was a big deal but I decided I didn't need the anti-depressants any more. I quit them, smoking, drinking all very close together and I started feeling better. Thank God for vaping. I still have my bouts with depression where I feel worthless to anyone and even consider taking too many tranqs and going to sleep but I don't. I try to think back of all the things I've done in my life a lot of which I regret now because of what it did to my body but a lot was really good too. I am still vertical and not horizontal which is good. I need the tranqs just about daily for panic attacks with my heart but sometimes I think back on the 10 years of Prozac and wonder if it was all necessary. I think of all the good times I been missing having good times like the song says, and I actually feel sort of good. I never cried when I was on Prozac and after I quit when things would happen that would cause a person to cry I did. I wonder how many other feelings it masked. I have a lot more to be depressed about now then then yet I'm not most of the time. I do get so ...... off at myself because of the things I use to be able to do but can't and I hate asking someone else to do for me. I'm gonna get by for however much time I have left on this earth and hope for the best. With all the things I've done to myself it is a wonder I'm still alive, a lot of my friends aren't. I just want to be thankful for what I do have. This place to come and vent is one of them. Things could be worse.

Well pal, your attitude and humor is an inspiration given what you'v been through and how you handle yourself 'now'.

 

[Uncle Willie]

Well, it's been fun, kids .. I'm headed out for a little Saturday night pickin' and grinnin' ... I'm gonna tip one back for you Jewels .. I know you're a happily married young woman, but hey, a man can dream ..

 

[MikeE3]

Well, it's been fun, kids .. I'm headed out for a little Saturday night pickin' and grinnin' ... I'm gonna tip one back for you Jewels .. I know you're a happily married young woman, but hey, a man can dream ..

You behave yourself tonight and be home my midnight.

 

[Iffy]

This place to come and vent is one of them. Things could be worse.

legs,

I've said it before and I'll say it again... you're 'nother super inspiration in our 'family'!

You behave yourself tonight and be home my midnight.

Damnit Mike, you're startin' to sound like my parents (RIP); except da check in time was 10 PM! BTW, dat was after I got back from da Philippines after two years in da USAF!!! Needless to say I took a very short leave...

Thankfully, I eventually made my Dad very proud and he gave me POA in his and Mom's latter years' affairs.

As a side note, my mind is still trying to 'process' da many here with depression issues. I can handle most physical affliction stories. But it is all too difficult to see & hear of da individual 'internal' conflicts without being to assist! Just wish I knew sum 'magic words'.

Da best I can do on dis side of da keyboard is major boa constrictor HUGS!