Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Seven

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Good Morning Porch Dwellers it is so freakin cold all I can do is look out the window at the porches! Don't use a metal drip tip in this weather!

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I just don't get laptops. Yeah I have a 15" for travel. Outside of that... not gunna happen. Have 2 27" monitors and a 25" tv that can be either a 3rd monitor, a tv, (cable or air) and server monitor.

When you've been as mobile as I have over the past 10 years or so, a laptop makes more sense.
 

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When you've been as mobile as I have over the past 10 years or so, a laptop makes more sense.
If yer movin around, sure. Like I sez, I have one for travel. But folks who almost never leave the house... and when they do... don't take the puter... Eye doant get it. Real machine vs laptop = nite vs day.
 

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Real machine vs laptop = nite vs day.
Much more bang for the buck in a desktop. I've also got devices for portability, but they don't get used too much and are far less capable. I'm totally incapable of using the annoying touch pads on them and carry a trackball with me on the road. No, haven't moved up to touch screen yet. Windows 10 seems so irritating.
 

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Yessssssssssssssssssssss. That's a 3 screen notebook.

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In 2050, that rig will seem even more outdated than a 20 megabyte hard drive seems now {unless Trump repeals college}. Sadly, I won't be around for CES 2050.
 

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Much more bang for the buck in a desktop. I've also got devices for portability, but they don't get used too much and are far less capable. I'm totally incapable of using the annoying touch pads on them and carry a trackball with me on the road. No, haven't moved up to touch screen yet. Windows 10 seems so irritating.

Quite right on the B4B, NCC. And that one can upgrade individual components as needed or desired.

OTOH, I do have a laptop (15" non-touch) and a convertible (11" touch), both with W10. (Desk is still and hopefully for a long time, 7 ;) ) Win10's "handwriting" recognition is actually pretty good. Use it a lot when the convertible is detached from the keyboard.

When home, unless wanting to surf something while watching the tube, it's the desktop and big screen. When on the road, laptop and tablet go along. If just out and about for the day, the convertible goes with me in the hard top :)
 

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Cold front coming through here tonight with rain and thunder. Poor Tasha is a basket case with thunder ever since a storm several years ago where the lightning hit very near by and the instant thunder made the house shake. I give her some herbs and her thunder wrap and we cuddle when she will let me. Or she hides in the master bedroom. Gonna be a long night and cold (for us) over the weekend.
Abby is too. Not looking forward to it. She actually wants me to pick her up and walk around holding her like a baby does. Wussy dog!:lol:
 
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Abby is too. Not looking forward to it. She actually wants me to pick her up and walk around holding her like a baby dies. Wussy dog![emoji38]
Lol! I got a Good Morning pic from Mack's Mom this morning. He usually won't sleep on the bed for long cause he has that under coat & he gets too hot. Not today tho!
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Just got first big rumble of thunder and it's raining like pouring it of a bucket. Guess the front is here.
It passed through here last night. It was still raining when I hit the sheets. Bright sunglasses weather now. My eyes can't tolerate bright sunlight without protection. Just in front of Noon and the temperature has just climbed above 40°. I am going to have to put on the glasses and get outdoors. This weather is too rare to NOT get out and enjoy it.
 

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When I rough shape a neck, I use a drawknife that was originally owned by my Grand Dad .. a Craftsman tool made I think around 1928, a #10 ..

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Today, as I picked up that tool, I thought about Craftsman Tools and Sears in general .. it's sad to watch unfold, what I believe is the slow and painful death of an American Iconic Company .. the closing of stores, the selling off of the Craftsman brand, the manufacturing of many of the Craftsman tools in China over the years ..

When I was a kid, I always anticipated that Sears Catalog, and it was a huge catalog, you could spend hours leafing through .. where it seemed they sold absolutely everything .. and, they used to do a Christmas Wish book that was also fascinating .. the slow death of Sears is another indication of the continued erosion of the Middle Class as we know it .. in the quest to find and use the cheapest possible goods by the public at large and the continued dominance of Walmart and now Amazon ..

Sears, Woolworths and others were sustained by a solid Middle Class of citizens that had the income and the desire to consume goods that were, for the most part, Made in America .. even the term "Made in Japan" was looked upon as inferior ..

I guess I count myself lucky having been a part of a Generation that grew up around this rich History .. and, in a way, I feel a little sorry for those that were never exposed to that part of the America I used to know .. Sears Roebuck & CO, Chicago, Illinois ..

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Moving overseas is suicide for the country. Might look good on paper for the company but it's the beginning of the end.

Clarify.
Company #1 lays off 1000 and moves overseas. They save money and get richer.
BUT! The 1000 they lay off are customers of other companies. Other companies sell less. So they lay off or go overseas as well.
So company #2 has no employees in the states any more so company #1 has less customers.
And it snowballs. The more that leave, the less customers are to be had.
So essentially... the country has been had! :)

All for the almighty buck.
 

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Moving overseas is suicide for the country. Might look good on paper for the company but it's the beginning of the end.

Clarify.
Company #1 lays off 1000 and moves overseas. They save money and get richer.
BUT! The 1000 they lay off are customers of other companies. Other companies sell less. So they lay off or go overseas as well.
So company #2 has no employees in the states any more so company #1 has less customers.
And it snowballs. The more that leave, the less customers are to be had.
So essentially... the country has been had! :)

All for the almighty buck.

The problem is, folks need to be able to afford shoes / shirts / TV's / etc .. The "purchasing power" of $100 from 1955 is $890.96 in 2016

1955 dollars in 2016 - Inflation Calculator

.. in fact, wages have declined, not gone up .. yet, we live in an age where on one hand, the Powers that Be talk about helping the worker, which should mean money / benefits .. at the same time Union busting tactics, Unions being the last refuge of the worker, continue ..

Companies want / need to make a profit .. Workers need / want to make a fair living .. but until regular people are able to elevate themselves into what we used to call the Middle Class, buy a Home, and be able to afford at least a modest lifestyle, it's a "dog chasing it's tail" scenario .. yes, we need to make more goods in this country .. those making the goods must be paid Middle Class money .. and, we must be willing to pay for those goods as Consumers, because they will cost more .. it's easy to close a Factory and move it overseas .. it's hard to take the time, and it will take time, to rebuild Factories and pay Middle Class money, which eventually, will filter thru the Economy and make it grow .. Unfortunately, we've become accustomed to low cost / Made in China / etc .. because, as wages eroded, it's all we could afford ..
 

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When I rough shape a neck, I use a drawknife that was originally owned by my Grand Dad .. a Craftsman tool made I think around 1928, a #10 ..

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Today, as I picked up that tool, I thought about Craftsman Tools and Sears in general .. it's sad to watch unfold, what I believe is the slow and painful death of an American Iconic Company .. the closing of stores, the selling off of the Craftsman brand, the manufacturing of many of the Craftsman tools in China over the years ..

When I was a kid, I always anticipated that Sears Catalog, and it was a huge catalog, you could spend hours leafing through .. where it seemed they sold absolutely everything .. and, they used to do a Christmas Wish book that was also fascinating .. the slow death of Sears is another indication of the continued erosion of the Middle Class as we know it .. in the quest to find and use the cheapest possible goods by the public at large and the continued dominance of Walmart and now Amazon ..

Sears, Woolworths and others were sustained by a solid Middle Class of citizens that had the income and the desire to consume goods that were, for the most part, Made in America .. even the term "Made in Japan" was looked upon as inferior ..

I guess I count myself lucky having been a part of a Generation that grew up around this rich History .. and, in a way, I feel a little sorry for those that were never exposed to that part of the America I used to know .. Sears Roebuck & CO, Chicago, Illinois ..

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Yep, I still remember fondly strolling around the tool and h/w section of a big Sears Roebuck and Company store outside Philly. My Mom and sister would head off the the clothing sections. We'd all meet up again in a couple-few hours and head on home. It was an afternoon event for the family.

We had a Sears h/w store in town until last year when it closed down. The next closest Sears "h/w store" is now an outlet for clothing.Very small section of tools now in the store.

A friend of mine is proud of his Sears 'kit' house. It's bigger than the one you posted ... its a 2 story, 3 bedroom model.
 

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Yeah companies want to make a profit. And they should. Problem is they "must" make a bigger profit if they're public. If they make a million this year, they "must" make 2 million next year or the stockholders freak out. Which eventually forces them out of the country. Catch-22.
 

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Yeah companies want to make a profit. And they should. Problem is they "must" make a bigger profit if they're public. If they make a million this year, they "must" make 2 million next year or the stockholders freak out. Which eventually forces them out of the country. Catch-22.

Yepper ... publicly held companies have a fiduciary responsibility to grow the worth of stock and dividends for their share holders. That's their prime directive. They owe nothing to their employee's yet alone the general public.
 

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Sears, Woolworths and others were sustained by a solid Middle Class of citizens that had the income and the desire to consume goods that were, for the most part, Made in America .. even the term "Made in Japan" was looked upon as inferior ..

I guess I count myself lucky having been a part of a Generation that grew up around this rich History .. and, in a way, I feel a little sorry for those that were never exposed to that part of the America I used to know .. Sears Roebuck & CO, Chicago, Illinois ..

The house I grew up in was a Sears and Roebuck home. It was brought in by train, and then the lumber was hauled to the building site by horse and wagon. When we remodeled in the mid-70s, Dad found a board that had Sears and Roebuck and the model number of the home burned into it. He cut that out and saved it, too.

This is what the house looks like today, but still retains the majority of its shape as it was when it was built in the early 1900s.

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