Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch - Part Seven
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I never made promises lightly
There have been some that I've broken
But I swear in the days ahead
I first heard dat version here on da Porch. Da first 20 seconds, I'm thinkin' 'what da..'. Then I was totally awed! VERY powerful...
Noper, but I'll gladly borrow 'em fer life!
@Uncle Willie
Can you try one more time to explain how this kodi thing is not pirating stuff. I know the Kodi software itself is legit. It is the addons for it that let you watch shows, movies and sports I don't understand. Seems to me watching movies you are not paying for would be over the line (and other content too).
Can you try one more time to explain how this kodi thing is not pirating stuff. I know the Kodi software itself is legit. It is the addons for it that let you watch shows, movies and sports I don't understand. Seems to me watching movies you are not paying for would be over the line (and other content too).
Check Dennis' post #865 & 936.
As I check out dis early AM, I'll leave y'all with dream strings...
with googlecast, you can push the 'puter video to the TVWe'll have to agree to disagree, unc.Knot seein' any diff between the box and the puter. Well except for 28" monitor vs. 55" tv.
here is how to see what dependencies you need to fix. the guy is using Windows, but he talks kinda slow.
And here is my good nite post, instead of more KODI.
Jokes many people won't get, but got chuckles from me:
Einstein, Newton and Pascal are playing hide and go seek.
Einstein covers his eyes and starts counting to ten. Pascal runs off and hides. Newton just draws a one meter by one meter square on the ground then stands in the middle of it.
Einstein reaches ten and uncovers his eyes. He sees Newton immediately and exclaims, “Newton! I found you!”
Newton smiles and says, “Nope. You found Pascal!”
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I got an A on my origami assignment when I turned my paper into my teacher.
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The bartender says, “sorry, we don’t serve faster-than-light particles here.” A tachyon walks into a bar.
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Why do computer scientists confuse Halloween and Christmas?
Because DEC25 = OCT31.
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What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
Jokes many people won't get, but got chuckles from me:
Einstein, Newton and Pascal are playing hide and go seek.
Einstein covers his eyes and starts counting to ten. Pascal runs off and hides. Newton just draws a one meter by one meter square on the ground then stands in the middle of it.
Einstein reaches ten and uncovers his eyes. He sees Newton immediately and exclaims, “Newton! I found you!”
Newton smiles and says, “Nope. You found Pascal!”
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I got an A on my origami assignment when I turned my paper into my teacher.
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The bartender says, “sorry, we don’t serve faster-than-light particles here.” A tachyon walks into a bar.
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Why do computer scientists confuse Halloween and Christmas?
Because DEC25 = OCT31.
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What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
I think it's like Willie says it's a grey area. What is illegal is if you get a stream that is someone in a movie theater with a video camera making a movie of the movie and putting it on.
Heh heh heh heh
Sent from a dark, twisted corner of the back porch, covered in cobwebs and slightly damp.
Iffy post the computer reload ECF is not showing post numbers for me anymore.
prior to retirement, i worked for an anti-piracy company, as Director of Software Engineering. My job was to catch pirated content providers, and i was fairly good at it. We were hired by all the movie/TV content providers mainly.
currently, it is illegal to stream copyrighted content-- as a provider.
in the U.S. currently, streaming illegally-sourced content as a consumer is perfectly legal. it is considered "fair use".
this assumes you don't use any peer-to-peer protocols (which require you to actually be a provider of bits and pieces, making you a de facto provider)
so, currently using Kodi (or whatever- even a browser) to access any content is perfectly legal in the U.S., whether it is provided legally or not.
Congress is reportedly considering passing a law to make it illegal to consume illegally provided content, but they have not done so yet, AFAIK.
And if they do pass the law, companies like the one i used to work for will still be unable to detect streamers. There is no technology that will do that.
However, the movie and TV companies who used to hire companies like mine will throw tons of money at internet service providers, who will be able to detect streaming consumers.
So, in my case, after the law passes and goes into effect, i'll expect a notification from Comcast, after which i'll reconsider my Kodi/browsing use.
Shades of grey, Willie. Shades of grey
yes, i've declined installing/using all of the Kodi add-ons that require P2P. but i can see how a non-tech kodi user could get sucked in, even tho all the add-ons i've seen actually warn you about the P2P component.
i was pretty much the Bittorent specialist at my last job.
i disagree with you the "many" of kodi's channels use P2P. some do, but many/most simply point to web sites where you can stream the same stuff in any browser. for the most part, no P2P. it's pretty rare in kodi, AFAIK.
the Cisco announcement, IMHO, means next to nothing. Content providers have been embedding watermarks for years. Like i said originally, only ISPs will be able to catch consuming streamers. Perhaps Cisco's tech will aid ISPs in that, but i'm not really seeing anything revolutionary. i imagine Comcast already has their own similar tech.
methinks it will still come down to Congress passing a law to induce the content providers to fund shutting down streaming consumers, whether or not they buy Cisco's tech or some other watermarking tech that's been around for years. then folks like Comcast will be able to shut down streaming whether thru kodi or just in a browser.
lastly, if Comcast has actually issued DMCA warnings to Kodi users, it's because they have installed one of the rare add-ons that use P2P. currently, consuming content without P2P is legal.
all that said, i think Congress will pass a law within the next year and ISPs like Comcast will have their hands out to the movie/TV/music studios and will reap the benefits. things like kodi will have a limited lifespan unless you pay for a foreign VPN, at which point actually paying for perfectly non-grey options like "Sling TV" may make some sense.
i think kodi in the US has a limited lifespan, so, even tho i use it, i wouldn't recommend anyone to make a major purchase.
sorry for the lengthy reply, Willie. . . i got distracted watching the latest episode of "Cutthroat Kitchen" on my kodi box
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Ok, so is streaming illegal? Nope. At least not at this point in time. Is downloading illegal? Yep. (at least in the states it is)
So is it unethical? Mebbe, could be, should be, yep, nope?
Remember, you can get a kodi box from... well, anywhere. Amazon, bestbye, wally world etc., with streaming software already installed on it. You can also download kodi from the windows store for your PC (free).
Y'all worry too much, if streaming is the smallest thing they catch me for, I'm doin pretty good.
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Sent from a dark, twisted corner of the back porch, covered in cobwebs and slightly damp.
It's a gray area. It's not currently illegal to stream the content in order to watch it. What is illegal is providing the content. So the people that are making the shows and movies available to watch are violating piracy laws, but the people watching the shows and movies are not.
In other words, using Kodi for streaming is an ethical rather than a legal question. Some feel it's unethical, others don't.
Thanks guys passing these replys to my post to the hubby. Yes he has discovered all this despite my best efforts. Given his computer is already wired into the TV well... I think Kodi is nearly inevitable. Sigh
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On da udder hand, while there are a plethora of free add ons, there are also paid ones. Here's one...
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