Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch-Part Six

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Me and my kid brother, circa 1955 (the day before yesterday).

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Leggs, I'm with all the rest, that whole situation is a real bummer, hope you can find a diplomatic way to get it straightened out. In the mean time, bump up your nic a bit and enjoy a beverage or three. ;) :D I know how bad things like this can wind a person up and we want you to keep that BP down. We love ya brother! :wub: :wub: :wub:

Mrs. C, no words................ My heart is with you though. ;)

Great pic bigbells! Wish I had the old photos, they're 5,000 miles away..... On the plus side, with my 90 year young mother. :)

Okay, quality time with my lovely bride awaits!

Happy 4th. EVERYONE!!!
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I don't agree at all. $15 an hour in Seattle is still nothing really a 1 bdrm apt costs $1000+ there. I've worked jobs that don't pay much too but in this day and age I can understand $15 an hour, thats only $2400 a month before income tax, SS, Medicare and most of those jobs don't provide med ins. They work people less then 40hrs a week so they are considered part time so even at that if you happen to break you arm or leg you're screwed. Let alone if it's someone with a family, if they have a family they would still need some kind of assistance to get by or possibly 2 jobs. We are lucky because I worked for the RR so we get a good pension but it would be hard for us to get by on that side of the mountains that's why we stay here. Cost of living here is probably 2/3 or less then what it is there. Just a little over a year to go and we will get an $800 a month raise cause Ginny will get Medicare. Man I hope we both make it.

I've gotta agree with Kenna too. People have to live where they can afford to live and do without if they can't afford things like a lot of us do. There's nothing wrong with having 2 jobs if that's what you need to do. My friend was working 3 jobs because her husband was a jerk and my niece and her baby lived on oatmeal for awhile until she found a job to support them. Another friend left all they'd worked for and moved her family back to her home state when she and her husband both lost their jobs in a bad economy. Yes life is hard and certainly unfair sometimes.
 

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Great pic bigbells! Wish I had the old photos, they're 5,000 miles away..... On the plus side, with my 90 year young mother. :)
Thanks! Digitize, mi amigo! I posted that picture 5 years ago on Facebook and downloaded it from there. No photo stock handled to post the picture again. I probably have that actual photo in my possession but having it on my computer is where I consider it to be kept.
 

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Aw Legs I'm so sorry your family is having this problem. There has to be a way to get him out of there. He needs psychological help, badly. Meanwhile the family, and especially your MIL needs to be safe from him. Maybe a group complaint to the police who can direct you to agencies or lawyers. A visit with her doctor might also be helpful. If full time care can't be arranged maybe the best thing for your MIL might be transferring her to an assisted living place. I know, she doesn't want to, but someone would be there for her 24/7 and she'd be safe and clean and cared for. It's a tough decision and one that will be difficult for her to accept, but a lot of times it turns out that they end up enjoying it because of the distractions and friends they make. Ugh! See, thats why, if I make it that long, I'm going to scout out nursing homes so I can pick my own! Anyway, I do hope you really enjoy your time with your daughters and grandaughter. At least you have that to look forward to. Hope you have a blast with them!
Well the SIL's keep a pretty close eye on what goes on and if he got really bad he'd be out of there. But he stays pretty much sober while she is up and has her on a schedule and she has breakfast, lunch and dinner at a specific time every day. He takes care of her catheter and does all of the stuff she can't another SIL takes care of all her financial stuff and she would know if there was $5 missing. I think she gives him an allowance. Shes the spinster of the family 65 never been married and probably has the first dollar she ever made. She was a mortgage broker but she is only around about once a week another SIL is there at least 2 times a week and she is the one that is with the older guy they bought half her property and he built a house in back of the property. I think he was hoping Marge and him would live there but it has sat empty for 3 or 4 years. He has it for sale but he wants $450000 for it and it probably is worth it. He built it himself and has everything in floor heating in the garage 3 car big Propane generator that comes on by itself if the power goes out plus once a week it starts up and runs for 30min. The living room is the size of our house the bedroom has a gas fireplace in it. It is really amazing and he like I said built it himself and paid for everything himself and he said he's not worried about selling it. He goes out and checks on her and 2 of the other BIL's go there at least once a week. She is really active in the church and they check on her a lot too so he can't get away with much but he definately needs help. When any of the other brothers or sisters come around he goes in his room or outside cause they won't take any crap off of him and none of them like him so its just one big happy disfunctional family. They have tried to get her into an assisted living place but she wants to stay right there. She's 87 and her thinking is still good she just doesn't get around real good and she live 10 miles from the nearest town which is small. He has to drive her anywhere she goes. Oh well it 1 month out of the year.
 

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Happy 4th of July everyone!!!

MIL is doing well after her surgery.

I managed to get a summer flu and spent a solid week miserable. I still don't have much energy but I am on the mend. Slow but sure wins the race. :)
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Thank you Willie :wub:

I hadn't posted it yet because I was and still am processing what's happened.

4 years ago my Dad was diagnosed w/stage 4 lung cancer. He spent a year fighting it with both chemo and rad treatments.
At the end of that year just after my Mom passed he finally came up clean on the tests and scans.

I didn't hear from him for a few weeks but that's not unusual with it being golf and model airplane season.

I knew he had not been feeling well, but he saw his GP and it was chalked up to being 83, having heart problems and never having fully recovered from the fight. On Father's Day when I called he told me that on a routine check from the oncologist the first of the month they found out the cancer is back and with a vengence. It's back in his lung and has spread to his liver. To far advanced to knock it out but chemo was an option to possibly slow it and get him some more quality time.

He started chemo but after the second dose he decided he just can't take the side effects. He didn't want to spend what time he has left in agony from the drugs.

I'm trying to remind myself he already stole 3 years back from the "C" and this time I won't be blindsided when the time comes like I was with Mom, but no daughter is ever truly ready to loose her Daddy.
Can't like that. Best wishes, Mrs C!
 

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Well did you guys hit the fireworks displays. We just have to sit in our living room and watch and think about how much money these guys are wasting on them. These fancy ones gotta cost big bucks. They've been shooting them off since Friday we'll see what they've got left for tonight. A lot I bet.
 

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Thank you Willie :wub:

I hadn't posted it yet because I was and still am processing what's happened.

4 years ago my Dad was diagnosed w/stage 4 lung cancer. He spent a year fighting it with both chemo and rad treatments.
At the end of that year just after my Mom passed he finally came up clean on the tests and scans.

I didn't hear from him for a few weeks but that's not unusual with it being golf and model airplane season.

I knew he had not been feeling well, but he saw his GP and it was chalked up to being 83, having heart problems and never having fully recovered from the fight. On Father's Day when I called he told me that on a routine check from the oncologist the first of the month they found out the cancer is back and with a vengence. It's back in his lung and has spread to his liver. To far advanced to knock it out but chemo was an option to possibly slow it and get him some more quality time.

He started chemo but after the second dose he decided he just can't take the side effects. He didn't want to spend what time he has left in agony from the drugs.

I'm trying to remind myself he already stole 3 years back from the "C" and this time I won't be blindsided when the time comes like I was with Mom, but no daughter is ever truly ready to loose her Daddy.

Thinking of you Mrs C.
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Hey I forgot to tell you guys yesterday when Ginny was on her way home she called and asked you think we ought to try the Colonels again KFC. They've been putting all these commercials on about come back we are back to the same. Don't waste your money. Remember when KFC chicken used to be just dripping and the coating was really good? I sent them an email and told them the bird we got was like shoe leather and the coating was terrible too. Last time we ever go there we usually give places about 3 times over 3 years that was it for this place man it was terrible, but the dog likes it chopped up in her dog food minus the coating.
 

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Thank you Willie :wub:

I hadn't posted it yet because I was and still am processing what's happened.

4 years ago my Dad was diagnosed w/stage 4 lung cancer. He spent a year fighting it with both chemo and rad treatments.
At the end of that year just after my Mom passed he finally came up clean on the tests and scans.

I didn't hear from him for a few weeks but that's not unusual with it being golf and model airplane season.

I knew he had not been feeling well, but he saw his GP and it was chalked up to being 83, having heart problems and never having fully recovered from the fight. On Father's Day when I called he told me that on a routine check from the oncologist the first of the month they found out the cancer is back and with a vengence. It's back in his lung and has spread to his liver. To far advanced to knock it out but chemo was an option to possibly slow it and get him some more quality time.

He started chemo but after the second dose he decided he just can't take the side effects. He didn't want to spend what time he has left in agony from the drugs.

I'm trying to remind myself he already stole 3 years back from the "C" and this time I won't be blindsided when the time comes like I was with Mom, but no daughter is ever truly ready to loose her Daddy.

Oh Amy, in a way I know your pain. I have been an orphan for many years now, but each parent's passing was rough (well, not the step mother who disowned both my brother and I when Dad suddenly passed). Hang in there, tell him thank you and you love him, and, well, it just hurts.

I wish you strength and huge {{{cyber hugs}}}
 

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Pat, kfc, popeyes, mickey d, wendies, dominoes or whatever. Depends on the restaurant. I've come across lousy ones in all the chains. But they aren't all the same. Try one somewhere else. And yeah, I've had really horrendous kfc but most are good.
 

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Great to hear 'bout your MIL, not so much fer your flu!

How long til ya get home?
I am home. Once I got sick I wasn't doing anyone any good.

MILs sister came in from Dallas to take over when I got sick. I SO appreciate her doing that.
 

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To those of you who have ailing loved ones, it is tough to be handed a death sentence, and to know you will never get well, and to just have to wait patiently and painfully till the end comes. My sentence was given to me 6 years ago, I was told I had 5 years, but I'm too stubborn to give up. Life is reduced to getting by and enjoying what you can. When your loved ones reach this stage, just help them be happy and give them moments to enjoy. Miracles are nice and all, but death is not something to fear, it is release.

Sent from a dark, twisted corner of the back porch, covered in cobwebs and slightly damp.
 

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I was able to stop smoking instantly with my first decent set up.
You got it right there. The right setup is what it takes. So many times I have talked to friends and when I mention vaping and how it helped me put down the analogs, they tell me, "Oh no, I tried that vaping with one those things at the gas station. It didn't work for me". Their mind is made up and they don't want to try anything else.

@2legsshrt , I am SO sorry to hear about this Family situation. That makes me want to hurt somebody.

On another note, I really DO enjoy working with younger people. They help keep my childish wonder alive. Last night, one of the young kids I work with had an expired flare he had been holding on to. After work last night him, and another one of the guys and me decided to head out to the beach to see if it still worked. I wish I had taken my camera. Anyway, our fervent prayer was that there was no Coast Guard hanging around anywhere and that we wouldn't cause any problems. We had to use a flashlight to get the beach. That's how dark it was. However, once the kid got the flare going, it lit up the whole doggone beach!!!!

For me, it was one of the most bizarre, awesome things I've ever seen!! I guess if anybody on the shrimp boats saw it, they were probably thinking "Uh...probably some damned drunks on the island acting up."
Hearing this I couldn't help but chuckle. When I was young in the Navy I was a Parachute Rigger. I was stationed at Miramar, CA. One of the stories I heard was about a group of folks were going camping and rafting. They wanted to stay in contact so went to their friendly Rigger and "borrowed" a couple PRC-90 radios. These were emergency radios that were standard in the kits aboard aircraft. What they didn't take into consideration was that the frequencies were monitored by emergency services and the Coast Guard. It did not turn out good for the group or their friendly Rigger.
 

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@Mrs C and @2legsshrt, and everyone else, as always you are in my bed time prayers.
Addiction is a terrible thing to be in and watch also. There are many great suggestions here to deal with the troubled loved ones, and the not so loved ones. Being a friend of Bill W., I have been a witness to both sides of the emotional situations we seem to get into. For me, the best solutions I have seen were through the legal channels. I know, the only thing that changed my path was finding my bottom and the tough love that ensued. I weep, thinking back to the pain I caused others. Sometimes the only thing I can do to make amends, is to not ever do it again. Get help for your family, not just the one causing the problems, but for those he is affecting. Address the issues with open eyes and a warm loving heart. It is a very tough thing to do, but I know it can be done.
 

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Just after the turn of the century (2005?), I had the opportunity to do a robot install in Thailand. After a few weeks being there one of the engineers mentioned how rich Americans are. I asked him how much was the all you can eat dinner we had last night? He said "About 80 cents American." I mentioned that for my wife and I to go to a restaurant that was mid price range would be $15 to $20 per person, he was surprised. I then asked him how much it cost for his apartment. He said "The company provides it for free." I told him that the bill for my house, including electric, satellite and what not was around $1500 per month. Again he was surprised. I asked how much do you pay for a car? He said "I drive a moped, nothing." I then explained we paid about $250 per month for the car. His eyes opened wide realizing that he might have more disposable income than I did.
I believe we should pay a living wage to people, what ever that comes out to be. Using the government to subsidize low prices for good an services skews the economy, and makes the playing field uneven. Up until the 70's many families were single income. Now days it seems a two income family struggles to make ends meet.
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