Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch-Part Six

[garyoa1]

, we just take their vape away for a day or two.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!

 

[Kaezziel]

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!!

Hahahaha! See?!? Even the threat of that is enough to deter anyone from causin' too much of a ruckus!

 

[yiddleboge6]

Not really escape it... more to build one that is more to our own liking and personal tastes. Sure, there'll be a little conflict, but if anybody gets too uppity, we just take their vape away for a day or two.

I think you're imagining one more to your personal tastes as opposed to the general consensus of the entire group......I thought our original plan was an escape from all the control.....not to be told by anyone at any time telling any of us we can't vape...

Hahahaha! I was just thinking about calling up some of my old Navy buddies and getting us set up with a nuclear reactor for power... I'm sure we could get whatever we need for that from China, right?

NO THANK YOU !!! Solar power should be enough if we're not trying to build and live in towers, etc......

 

[bigbells]

but if anybody gets too uppity, we just take their vape away for a day or two.

And just who is this "we" of whom you speak? Does Fantasy Island have a ruling party?

Elevators, air conditioners and helicopters that run on 18650s.

 

[Kaezziel]

I think you're imagining one more to your personal tastes as opposed to the general consensus of the entire group......I thought our original plan was an escape from all the control.....not to be told by anyone at any time telling any of us we can't vape...

Yes, but any society is going to have some form of rules. Infractions to those rules must be dealt with. There should be punishment equal to the infraction, of course. As determined by a judicial committee of some form.

NO THANK YOU !!! Solar power should be enough if we're not trying to build and live in towers, etc......

Solar power is finicky and troublesome... not to mention rather inefficient. We're gonna have so many battery chargers running for our mods that we'd never be able to turn on the lights. I'm thinking it wouldn't be too hard to get our hands on an old reactor from a defunct Russian submarine...

And just who is this "we" of whom you speak? Does Fantasy Island have a ruling party?

Elevators, air conditioners and helicopters that run on 18650s.

I'm thinking it should be a group that is appointed by general election of some sort... either that or draw straws when the need arises?

That's gonna be a lotta 18650s! Maybe we can get a bulk discount......

 

[umanbean]

a group that is appointed by general election of some sort...

Nah... then some smartaff's would want to change to an electoral 'college'... whatever T.H. that means...

 

[bigbells]

Well, heck, the most efficient energy is wind energy, and with all this hot air there will never be a lack of power. By the way, where did you get the idea that solar energy is inefficient? Exxon?

 

[Kaezziel]

Nah... then some smartaff's would want to change to an electoral 'college'... whatever T.H. that means...

Hahahahahaha!!! Oh, don't even get me started!!

Well, heck, the most efficient energy is wind energy, and with all this hot air there will never be a lack of power. By the way, where did you get the idea that solar energy is inefficient? Exxon?

World's Most Efficient Rooftop Solar Panel
As of October of last year... "Panasonic claimed the crown at 22.5 percent module efficiency." Personally, I wouldn't call that terribly efficient...

 

[Uncle Willie]

Yes, but any society is going to have some form of rules. Infractions to those rules must be dealt with. There should be punishment equal to the infraction, of course. As determined by a judicial committee of some form.

I'm thinking it should be a group that is appointed by general election of some sort... either that or draw straws when the need arises?

Yep, that's what I figured .. dude wins lottery, springs for Island, decides The Golden Rule Must Apply ..

"He With the Gold, Rules" ..

Meet the new Boss, Same as the Old Boss ..

Now, my Island, kept as well hidden as Humanly Possible, is a Freewheeling Paradise of Like Minded Folks that just want to live out their final days in Peace and Tropical Tranquility, indulging in what ever their favorite form of Relaxant might be .. we would simply have a nice Hut, separated from the main compound, where we could send someone for a "Time Out" if things got too rowdy .. said Hut would still be fully equipped .. and, "Time Outs" would never last more than 2 Hours ..

 

[Kaezziel]

Yep, that's what I figured .. dude wins lottery, springs for Island, decides The Golden Rule Must Apply ..

"He With the Gold, Rules" ..

Meet the new Boss, Same as the Old Boss ..

Now, my Island, kept as well hidden as Humanly Possible, is a Freewheeling Paradise of Like Minded Folks that just want to live out their final days in Peace and Tropical Tranquility, indulging in what ever their favorite form of Relaxant might be .. we would simply have a nice Hut, separated from the main compound, where we could send someone for a "Time Out" if things got too rowdy .. said Hut would still be fully equipped .. and, "Time Outs" would never last more than 2 Hours ..

Not exactly where I was going with that... I have absolutely no desire to "rule" anything...

 

[Kaezziel]

To be continued... (or not... doesn't really matter). Time for me to head out and go home for the weekend. I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend!

 

[MattB101]

Yes, but any society is going to have some form of rules. Infractions to those rules must be dealt with. There should be punishment equal to the infraction, of course. As determined by a judicial committee of some form.



Solar power is finicky and troublesome... not to mention rather inefficient. We're gonna have so many battery chargers running for our mods that we'd never be able to turn on the lights. I'm thinking it wouldn't be too hard to get our hands on an old reactor from a defunct Russian submarine...



I'm thinking it should be a group that is appointed by general election of some sort... either that or draw straws when the need arises?

That's gonna be a lotta 18650s! Maybe we can get a bulk discount......

Might I recommend a pebble bed reactor with helium collant. Pretty much meltdown proof. Course going to need a little engineering support. Nuclear is too damn expensive. Solar/wind probably is the way to go.

 

[umanbean]

By the way, where did you get the idea that solar energy is inefficient?

Good question... solar cell efficiency is up from ~12-15% not too many years ago to >20% now... and steadily climbing.

As of October of last year... "Panasonic claimed the crown at 22.5 percent module efficiency." Personally, I wouldn't call that terribly efficient...

Kaezz, it's a matter of density - in other words, the overall size of the solar field vs how much energy it can produce. Smaller size field + more energy = better.

There will, of course, never be 100% efficient cells... or 100% efficient anything for that matter... perpetual motion anyone?

 

[Von Vape]

Anybody want to chip in so that we can just buy a deserted island out in the Pacific somewhere?

We're IN, Kazz!!!

And of course, we're gonna have to have one heck of a pier for fishing when we just don't feel like takin' the boat out.

We'll bring the boat............

I'm sure UW could use a hand with the gardening too.

Afternoon, ALL!
V V

 

[Uncle Willie]

Good question... solar cell efficiency is up from ~12-15% not too many years ago to >20% now... and steadily climbing.

 

[Rotowoman]

so now i'm back to using the walker and pain meds....and set my recovery back by a couple of weeks...

Somebody just slap me upside my head....

Aw, aw! I'm sorry to hear that. You're not alone in that, though. I have a bad habit of doing the same thing at work. My shoulder will ALWAYS remind me about the dumb stuff that I do.

 

[Rotowoman]

As for the island idea......I'm past ready. I feel like the freaking world has lost it's mind right now. I'm too tired for all this. I just want some peace and quiet and not have to look over my shoulder all the time.

 

[bigbells]

World's Most Efficient Rooftop Solar Panel
As of October of last year... "Panasonic claimed the crown at 22.5 percent module efficiency." Personally, I wouldn't call that terribly efficient...

As the article itself says, such claims are mostly bluster and creative math. Regardless, I'm talking about overall cost efficiency, which is a different animal. Cost efficiency is LIKEWISE hard to figure, because it depends on projected life and waste disposal costs, among other things, but here is an article and a graph comparing the cost efficiency of various power sources:
What Is the Most Efficient Source of Electricity?

 

[Von Vape]

UW, do you know any hydraulic engineers? I've had an idea for a tidal generator in the back of my head for years but need the help of an actual H.E. to work out the details. The principal is solid, it's the plumbing sizing schtuff that escapes my knowledge. The tides we have here in the Cook Inlet are the second highest in the world and that's what got me to thinking about this thing. (I'd better consult Google the Great. bigbells is sure to fact check me. Ok, Dave, according to this chart; The Top 5 Highest Tides on Earth and a few others, we're ranked #4 in the world. We were always raised on the #2 ranking but hey, Google The Great is NEVER wrong. )

 

[bigbells]

Ye who are not happy with the Electoral College, I agree with thee.

But, it's no recent change... it was established by the Founding Fathers.