Older Folks and Vaping Back Porch-Part Six

[DavidOck]

Ok, I am not going to panic or obsess about this "Deeming". Sounds like a bad horror flick. I've got 2 small pre made orders on the way, an adjustable mod coming from a generous soul, who is ever so kindly lifting me out of vaporfi, non adjustable limbo. Next pay I will order nicotine base and some flavors, along with pg and vg. Are those diy kits worth 50$? Then I will buy a couple mods(?) that have replaceable rechargeable batteries as future proofing against a possible supply shortage. What does a married pair mean? That should cover my supplies for the next couple of years, which is all I need. Plus, the U.K. isnt cracking down on supplies. Problem solved. No worries. The whole business was giving me a headache.

If you're not going to start DIY now, skip the PG and VG in favor of more nic.

Not sure which $50 "kit" you're referencing, but probably not worth it. Better to just get a few flavors that sound good to you and a couple of different size graduated cylinders.

 

[DavidOck]

 

[DavidOck]

 

[Janet H]

So what percentage in what base do you get? And a litre lasts about how long? And how long does it stay useable if you freeze it?

The 100mg in PG takes up less room in the freezer. It will last there possibly indefinitely. It never freezes solid so it's easy to pull it out later and transfer to smaller bottles. How far it will go in making your juice depends on the strength of the juice you're making.

thank you so very much !!! My friend,......(ex-vendor, that I was an SA for) has sent me a pdf with the entire deeming. Too much for me to read all at once and I think an attorney would really be needed to interpret it all correctly, but I'll wade through it sometime soon....too down about a lot of things right now to want to attempt it at the moment.

The link for The Rest of the Story sums it up pretty nicely.

I only have one thing to say about this. Hey, Uncle Sam........get OUT of my business!! You can't even mind your own!!!

Well said!!!

NO NO then I would need a prothetic head. Speaking of politics is Jesse Ventura running as ind.

I think he's too busy with his law suits to run.

Since I am SO highly ...... off at this FDA thing right now, I am going to go off on a completely different tangent.

It was a very pleasant 3 hour drive down to the island this morning. The air was crisp and clean with very low humidity. Down here, we take that when we can get it. It was just simply beautiful, and although it is scenery I see all the time, I still enjoyed it as if seeing it for the first time. That got me to thinking.

If money were no object, I would find me a nice decent sized piece of land somewhere out in BFE. It would have some nice good sized stream running through it. My new house wouldn't be large. It would be self sufficient. I'd have solar, and some kind of way to get that running water to the house. I'd like a nice sized kitchen so I could cook and preserve food to my heart's content. Other than that, a bedroom, and a small office.

I'd get me a few cattle, build me a little chicken coop, and maybe even some goats. I'd have the sweetest garden ever. Yeah...I could work outside all day long on my little mini farm and just enjoy Nature. Shucks, I could go fishing even....................> kicks back and daydreams.

Sounds lovely!!!

Lets see if I got 3 of those new Reauleux's I'd need 18 batteries but I still am kind of wondering about having to keep them paired up.

You might want to label them, like the As together and Bs together etc. And you could get really crazy and date and number them like Mike does. He's got a spread sheet that tells exactly how many days old they are...

 

[DoomiteAsh]

Good morning porchers, happy Friday!

Happy birthday to yiddleboge6, BTW. I haven't said much to you, but I've gotta say that I like your username. Dunno what it is, but there's something cute and endearing about it if that makes sense.

OK, going for a haircut and then a shower. I'll be back in a bit.

Sent from Doomite Central!

 

[Janet H]

Posted on the FP, also - but for those who prefer the views out back, The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: FDA E-Cigarette Deeming Regulations are a Disaster for Public Health

Thanks for posting this. It's very helpful.

 

[Janet H]

Hey Yiddle!!!!

 

[Myrany]

Happy Birthday Yiddle!!!

 

[gordon50]

Happy Birthday YIDDLE !!

 

[misswish1]

Yiddle!

 

[3mg Meniere]

Happy Birthday, Yiddle!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[MikeE3]

Happy Birthday, Yiddle!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice one 3mg!

 

[Uncle Willie]

From the "I Saved This For An Appropriate Time" File :: and, posted because of recent Posts on the Thread ..

ECF traffic has been shrinking for some time .. it's far and away dropped substantially from the heyday .. although, yesterday saw a pretty good bump in hits, obviously .. "How do your know this, Willie .. ??" I was a mod on a fairly large Forum for several years and I have a software that tracks traffic ..

So, combined with the Deeming News and Shrinking Traffic, although I don't think it's time to go into full alarm mode, it is always a good idea to at least give some thought to possible alternative scenarios if a worse case comes down at any point .. many of us have devoted substantial time over the years to get to know each other, certain bonds have been formed, etc .. I don't think any want to lose that ..

All I'm suggesting is we keep this in our minds and that moving may be, at least, a possibility .. I will also say that our little Corner of the Cyber World is one of the more active Threads left here on ECF .. and it is a Lounge Thread .. those that remember 2010 / 2011 / 2012 know just what a hotbed of activity ECF was ..

The Deeming issue, IMO, will cause Vendors to re-think their scenarios .. I'm guessing many will not deal with the hassles and will simply close shop, if the Deeming issues remain the same .. and that is likely part of the intent of the Deeming, to be honest .. although, the PV is not going to go away, there is a great likelihood it will morph into something different than what we now see .. and, it is highly likely the makers / vendors / liquid people will shrink ..

I've been a Business Man first and foremost for the better portion of my life .. and, if I were in any facet of the PV business, I would have been thinking long and hard some time ago about what direction to take .. and now, after yesterday, I would not be putting my Faith in substantial changes in the Deeming issues, but instead, would be focusing on likely moving on .. the two year window may seem generous, but it's not really .. although, well established Retailers could, very easily, take advantage of the two year window and make some coin .. and then move on ..

I don't have a crystal ball, and I am not an alarmist .. but after taking a good hard look at the documentation, should it remain essentially unchanged, it's going to be difficult for anyone without deep pockets to comply .. and even then, it's going to take time to re-coup the costs of compliance .. as well, Business Lenders are wary of loans in situations where things are still in flux, projections are uncertain, etc .. which means those that may attempt to get funding that don't have deep pockets will need a strong Financial Statement to be considered ..

If I'm reading all this wrong, feel free to rebut ..

 

[MattB101]

Happy Birthday Yiddle!

 

[Von Vape]

Happy Birthday Yiddle!

Mornin' All!

On top of yesterday's news & Indiana's licensing requirements, local news dropped this bomb shell on us last night...... There will be NO SMOKING OR VAPING inside the Alaska State Fair Grounds this year! All smoking & vaping will have to be done outside the fences and not less than 40 feet from any entrance gate.

In related news, "someone" tried to get a bill through the legislature banning smoking (and I assume, vaping) STATEWIDE (except in the privacy of your own home or vehicle.). Fortunately, the legislature (still in special session) has a FIVE BILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT to worry about and the bill was shelved immediately. That doesn't mean it won't come up again and AGAIN!

It just keeps getting better, doesn't it!

 

[Uncle Willie]

Now moving on to more Porch Friendly chatter ..

Dear Sandra ::

I would like to extend my Personal Well Wishes for a Happy and Content 29th Birthday .. the twenties pass so quickly, they are an exciting time, so be sure and take advantage of that last year before turning 30 ..

You have been a Friend and Confidant to me for some time, and it is a relationship I very much value .. so no matter what you do, keep being you .. ..

Sincerely, Willie

 

[DancingHeretik]

 

[MikeE3]

From the "I Saved This For An Appropriate Time" File :: and, posted because of recent Posts on the Thread ..

ECF traffic has been shrinking for some time .. it's far and away dropped substantially from the heyday .. although, yesterday saw a pretty good bump in hits, obviously .. "How do your know this, Willie .. ??" I was a mod on a fairly large Forum for several years and I have a software that tracks traffic ..

So, combined with the Deeming News and Shrinking Traffic, although I don't think it's time to go into full alarm mode, it is always a good idea to at least give some thought to possible alternative scenarios if a worse case comes down at any point .. many of us have devoted substantial time over the years to get to know each other, certain bonds have been formed, etc .. I don't think any want to lose that ..

All I'm suggesting is we keep this in our minds and that moving may be, at least, a possibility .. I will also say that our little Corner of the Cyber World is one of the more active Threads left here on ECF .. and it is a Lounge Thread .. those that remember 2010 / 2011 / 2012 know just what a hotbed of activity ECF was ..

The Deeming issue, IMO, will cause Vendors to re-think their scenarios .. I'm guessing many will not deal with the hassles and will simply close shop, if the Deeming issues remain the same .. and that is likely part of the intent of the Deeming, to be honest .. although, the PV is not going to go away, there is a great likelihood it will morph into something different than what we now see .. and, it is highly likely the makers / vendors / liquid people will shrink ..

I've been a Business Man first and foremost for the better portion of my life .. and, if I were in any facet of the PV business, I would have been thinking long and hard some time ago about what direction to take .. and now, after yesterday, I would not be putting my Faith in substantial changes in the Deeming issues, but instead, would be focusing on likely moving on .. the two year window may seem generous, but it's not really .. although, well established Retailers could, very easily, take advantage of the two year window and make some coin .. and then move on ..

I don't have a crystal ball, and I am not an alarmist .. but after taking a good hard look at the documentation, should it remain essentially unchanged, it's going to be difficult for anyone without deep pockets to comply .. and even then, it's going to take time to re-coup the costs of compliance .. as well, Business Lenders are wary of loans in situations where things are still in flux, projections are uncertain, etc .. which means those that may attempt to get funding that don't have deep pockets will need a strong Financial Statement to be considered ..

If I'm reading all this wrong, feel free to rebut ..

Well stated UW.

Just had a thought (scary, me thinking). There's a complete different base of organized people that use vaporizers similar and sometimes the same as we do. If their equipment is going to be lumped w/ e-cig equipment ... Me wonders if an alliance may help both types of users fight this deeming.

 

[garyoa1]

Only a politician would pick an idiotic word like "deem" to sound totally idiotic while professing intelligence.

 

[clnire]

Yiddle!!!