Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2
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The batteries you end up buying will most likely be made in China. What you want to avoid is the Chinese vendors because of all the fake batteries that are out there it's way too likely you'd end up not getting the real batteries. Add in the type of mod, vv/vw, and there are really just 3 brands to buy. You want batteries with a safe chemistry and that are designed to allow for big current draw. Brands: AW, Efest (sp?) or Panasonic. The chemistry: IMR. What you don't want are ICR ("protected") batteries. These are designed for lower current draw, for things like flashlights and the like. That's the chemistry in those -fire batteries you were warned against. The IMR are designed for uses that draw big current like high powered portable power tools.
Just go to the subforum for the mod you're looking at and I'm sure you'll find a "what battery works in..." thread that'll have links to different vendors.
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Just go to the subforum for the mod you're looking at and I'm sure you'll find a "what battery works in..." thread that'll have links to different vendors.
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Thanks for info, I'm taking notes for the future! I did get an itaste 2 days ago, thanks to you guys. Annnd, I did order an MPV petals today.....You all are trouble! But I am loving the itaste and the MVP sure is pretty.
Geeez! Gone a couple weeks and we get a new porch!!
Deb, at least everyone has a front row seat here; regardless of gender, height, age and vaping experience!
Da 'beauty' of DIY!
Apparently, ya haven't talked with my bride...!
I'm not gonna assume that I know which mod ya should get/enjoy (I do suggest a VV/VW!). BUT, since ya mentioned Mar 1st, I'll be tickled to send ya a pair of Panny 18650s along with a plastic Bolt. Hopefully, dat will allow ya to 'jump da gun' on a mod of your choice. Ya can keep da Bolt as a PIF gift. I just ask that ya when ya have da chance, I'd like my batts back; but with no rush on my part.
Please PM me if interested...
BTW, dere ain't nuttin' wrong wid da eGo batts; even da 1/3 $pe¢ials! Just have 'nuff to recharge and vape for 24 hours!
It's very weird, but from the beginning I really didn't like the tobacco flavors. And that's after 45+ years of smoking! I guess maybe it helps to not compare vaping flavors to cigarettes. Vaping is different than smoking and so are the flavors. Slide on into a new experience that replaces your old one and enjoy the ride. Half the fun is trying new flavors and finding that you really like something unexpected.
I totally agree with you about not wanting to waste anything, but I've decided that finding a yukky juice is a learning experience so it's not really wasted. Don't feel like you have to punish yourself by vaping it up so as not to waste it. That would be a negative experience and you don't want that. You could try mixing a fruit to it, like maybe a little pear or something and see if that helps.
This is something I have been pondering on all week, just getting started as I am... the thing that can really help us addicted smokers, the similarity (my eRoll, though silver-toned, is very much a "cig-alike" which is why I chose that one!)... is the thing that the idiot prohibitionists get so cranked up over, and the thing that might cause vapers so many problems with those idiots... that because it SOMEWHAT RESEMBLES smoking, they think it is the same thing, and just as dangerous.
I've known for many years that the vast majority of people, even our lawmakers (maybe especially them -- who would want their job, anyway???), are as stupid as the day is long... but this time, it really could be harmful, for all of us who've despaired of getting off cigarettes, but now finally have a chance. But how do you fix stupid? I've despaired of that for many years, too. Yes, we can educate those who are merely ignorant of the facts, though with some folks, ignorance is a willful choice... but as that comic has stated so truthfully... you can't fix stupid!
Andria
It is SO frustrating hearing people make untrue negative statements when it's obvious they have no idea what they're talking about. Of course, some of the questionaires I've participated in are obviously created by people who have no idea what vaping is all about so I guess you can't blame some people for coming to wrong conclusions. You're also right about willful ignorance and I think it's just going to take time to convince people that they're wrong. There's too many of us finding that vaping has helped them so I think generally people are going to be overwhelmed by our numbers. I fear it ain't going to be easy though. It's one of the reasons I don't want to be out and about vaping something that looks like a cigarette. Hopefully it will get people used to seeing people vape and not fear it.
Yeah, whoever it was who said that the tobacco flavors come in handy for those moments when you REALLY WANT A CIGARETTE! but are determined not to have one -- once you no longer compare those flavors with a recent taste of a real cigarette, yeah, I can really see that. It's kinda weird, I've already broken a lot of those kinds of habits, because of starting to always go outdoors to smoke, but that after-meal smoke... that will almost certainly be my own hardest one to get over. But I know it can be done; I got sober 21+ yrs ago, by drinking V8 juice, ice cold -- it compensated me somehow, by not being sweet like soda or juice or tea with sugar; cutting that sugar film in my mouth was one of my biggest reasons (so I told myself back then!) for enjoying the taste of beer. It took a while to get comfortable with being a non-drinker, but it's really pretty much a non-issue nowadays -- though I confess, those beer commercials on sunday football afternoons, well I have to just leave the room.I imagine it will feel much like that, after I've quit, when I see/smell someone else with a real smoker, but knowing me, I'll probably run right over and ask if they know about the benefits of e-cigarettes.
Andria
A lot of us find that the times when we REALLY want a cigarette it helps to have a few toots of some juice with higher nic.
Like you, I'd love to show smokers how much better vaping is, but like the former smokers I've run into who pounced on me to quit just because they did I decided I wasn't going to be one of them. If somebody shows me the slightest interest though, all bets are off. We have a friend who has the worst smokers cough you ever heard and it's all I can do to keep my mouth shut about getting him to vape. We've thrown the suggestion out there, but so far he's not biting. Sigh.
Geeez! Gone a couple weeks and we get a new porch!!
How's everyone?? Been reading the last few pages and it's good to know that I might still have a ways to go before I can taste anything. Obviously a few of you went several months before the 'buds' woke up. Only 2 months for me, so I'm still in the 'I can't taste anything' mode. Making my juice has helped, I can make it as strong as I need it.
Funny, talking about tobacco flavors, I smoked menthol ultra lights forever, because I didn't like the taste of tobacco to start with, the menthol covered it up. Now my ADV is 555. It doesn't taste like tobacco to me, but just a nutty flavor. I have several other, non tobacco, flavors I rotate with, but that's the one I go thru the most of, about 30ml a week.
Deb - NCPatches
I hardly had any taste after 45 years of smoking. When i started vaping 2+ years ago there were only 2 flavors I could taste - 1. this is OK and 2. this i don't like. It didn't matter if it was a bakky, fruit, dessert or coffee. So for over a year I only vaped bakky flavors. To this day my taste buds are still lacking. When I hear someone say such-and-such a flavor tastes just like the real thing. I'm like really - vape flavors actually have a flavor. About 6 month's ago I did make the switch to a couple of fruit flavors and only occasionally do a bakky flavor. The good side of all this, is I never really got carried away with trying to find the perfect flavored vape. No sense chasing the flavors if I can't taste them.
This is something I have been pondering on all week, just getting started as I am... the thing that can really help us addicted smokers, the similarity (my eRoll, though silver-toned, is very much a "cig-alike" which is why I chose that one!)... is the thing that the idiot prohibitionists get so cranked up over, and the thing that might cause vapers so many problems with those idiots... that because it SOMEWHAT RESEMBLES smoking, they think it is the same thing, and just as dangerous.
I've known for many years that the vast majority of people, even our lawmakers (maybe especially them -- who would want their job, anyway???), are as stupid as the day is long... but this time, it really could be harmful, for all of us who've despaired of getting off cigarettes, but now finally have a chance. But how do you fix stupid? I've despaired of that for many years, too. Yes, we can educate those who are merely ignorant of the facts, though with some folks, ignorance is a willful choice... but as that comic has stated so truthfully... you can't fix stupid!
Andria
Well, I'm looking for some old folks (someone who can pass for needing a walker and who vapes) to try to address this issue.
What I want is a picture of someone who looks like 70-90 years old, vaping (kind-of closeup) and another picture of the same person using a walker and drinking out of a water bottle.
I want to make a picture to sell on Cafe Press at cost (no profit to me, Yuck, 1040's!) for T-shirts and shopping bags and things,
that says, above the pictures:
If this looks like smoking .... drinking and driving
Then the 2 pix
PLEASE get your head eyes examined!
(with "head" in strikeout font)
I'm only 60, so I think I'm too young for this to be effective. If you have a family member who is good with a camera, maybe we could "do it", otherwise, if you are in the South SF Bay Area, maybe I can get my little brother to help, or my son-in-law. They are good with cameras. Brother near San Jose, son-in-law near San Mateo.
If I can pull this off, I want to start a Cafe Press store to try to fight the lies.
Of course if this actually gets done and up on Cafe Press (no promises at this point) I'll buy a couple of the T-shirts for the model and a couple for the photographer. If the photographer is a friend of yours and wants photo credit (for such an unsavory message as that!) same for her/him.
If this idea is beyond stupid, I guess y'all should tell me. It's not the ONLY idea I have. Another idea involves french fries, spaghetti, and hot peppers (all 'nightshade' family like tobacco.)
I have a few tobacco flavors that I enjoy occasionally, especially on one of those "I REALLY want a cig" days. I agree that they don't taste anything like a cig, for me I think it's psychological, just knowing it's supposed to be tobacco-ish makes me feel better, lol
as far as batteries go...Geeez! Gone a couple weeks and we get a new porch!!
How's everyone?? Been reading the last few pages and it's good to know that I might still have a ways to go before I can taste anything. Obviously a few of you went several months before the 'buds' woke up. Only 2 months for me, so I'm still in the 'I can't taste anything' mode. Making my juice has helped, I can make it as strong as I need it.
Funny, talking about tobacco flavors, I smoked menthol ultra lights forever, because I didn't like the taste of tobacco to start with, the menthol covered it up. Now my ADV is 555. It doesn't taste like tobacco to me, but just a nutty flavor. I have several other, non tobacco, flavors I rotate with, but that's the one I go thru the most of, about 30ml a week.
Have a question and would rather hear from ya'll than ask on one of the other boards, just because I think maturity is a good thing.
I have several eGo type batts that I use. I like them, the size and weight works for me. But I don't like that they don't keep a charge as long as they 'supposedly' should. Yeah yeah, they are knockoffs. But at 1/3 the price, I don't see it makes any difference except to be a PITA that they have to be charged more often. I just have more of them.
So, because of that reason and the possibility that I may not be able to get more in 6 months/a year, whatever, I've decided to order a couple mod clones that I can replace the batteries in, since 'they' can't very well outlaw batteries. As I understand it, the higher mah, replaceable batteries last longer. Here's the question (finally!) Would I be better off to buy the batteries in the States, even if I get the clones from FT? I'm reading that I shouldn't trust the batteries from China.
Oh and yes, I am a chain vaper! Which is why the batteries don't last for me.
Plan to order after March 1st, so if anyone has any opinions or suggestions on what I might get, let me know, I know nothing about mods.
Deb - NCPatches
I have e-fest and Panasonic from Amazon. I trust them for the most part, so got them there a bit less expensively than other places.
Amazon.com: Two Panasonic NCR18650B 3.7V 3400mAh Rechargeable Li-ion Batteries QTY 2: Electronics
Amazon.com: (2 Pieces) IMR 18650 2000mah 3.7v High Drain Li-mn Rechargeable Battery with Button Top: Health & Personal Care
I also got some black Panasonics, but they are a bit thicker than above and do not fit in my SID. They fit my mech though...
I would recommend buying them in pairs, two to 3 months apart, until you have 6 to rotate with. Buying them that way lets you have the time to replace any two that have hit their charge-limit.
To charge them, I followed a reviewer's recommendation and got
Amazon.com: Nitecore IntelliCharger i4 Battery Charger - 2nd Generation: Sports & Outdoors
For the actual battery holder, I went to madvapes and got a couple of these... $49.99 each...
SID Variable Volt / Watt APV
Note: as with most Mods that are not $10,000 or more in price, the EGO connector is aluminum, not steel. So at some point, you will drop the device with a tank on it and partially strip the threads.
You can get an EGO TO EGO or a 510 to EGO adapter, or even a new control head
SID Replacement Switch
For $34.99
I like my SIDs and will be happy to recommend them. One battery (either type) should last you about a day, so take the other one with you as a backup to switch when it dies...
I was looking at the SID and I so don't get what exactly they are. And I saw some review dissing the build quality.
So in addition to some explanation I have a few questions: 1. Do they light when you push the button? I want to vape on planes in the dark and in dark pubs etc w/o getting busted. 2. So they consist of a top and a "battery holder" sold separately? Wuzzup with that?
3. How heavy are they? I tried to use an Itaste VTR but it was so heavy it started giving me carpal tunnel almost.
4. Quality IYO?
Hmmm, no I don't think it's beyond stupid, but gonna have to think on this one for a bit.
Question on the SID. The price is right if I want to buy something for my favorite people, without having to wait a month from Fastech. However, I had no problem mastering the menu system on the Vamo's three buttons. I would think that one button would be more complicated. Opinion?
Selectable in da menu.
All ya need is an 18650 batt and your fav topper.
Lightest non-plastic VV/VW PV I've purchased.
Pretty day-um good considering da price from FT.
I got mine early last week. Just luv da display and one button menu!
ETA:
Actually, da single button menu is pretty intuitive (if ya've used other selectable menu option PVs)!
Just my .02 FRN...
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Heck, pear sounds good all by itself!
Seriously though... I wonder how long the e-juices would be good for, if stored away? There's someone I know who used to love Camels, which are supposed to be like turkish tobacco, I think? He's not smoking right now, but once he is.. umm.. out of gov't supervision, let's say... I'm afraid he may be inclined to take it up again. I have some turkish e-juice, from Halo, but to me it tastes like pipe tobacco, ick, but he might just love it. But I don't know if e-juices would last for 3.5 yrs, stored away.I'm not really sure what happened, to be honest; when I first got the 12mg, 3 diff tobacco flavors, I was vaping away, really enjoying how *almost similar* it was... but then the nausea hit, and I couldn't get rid of that smell to save my life. I was gobbling ginger capsules and York patties, realizing that they actually call this stuff "stinkweed" for a really good reason. I decided right then that it would be much better to find something that might give me a similar sensation, a throat hit from strong peppermint or hot cinnamon, than to have to endure that smell ever again -- and it's funny; now, my actual-cigarette-smelling fingers remind me of that stinking e-juice, and it causes me to go out and fire one up a lot less often!
That would certainly remove any desire I had for a cigarette -- to judge from when I tried the 18mg and 12mg, it would just make me so nauseous that the THOUGHT of a cigarette would make me ill!
Heh... yeah, I know what you mean, but I have a bit of fun with that sort of thing, too... If someone I know is groaning about a hangover, I cheerfully tell them that I know the PERFECT hangover cure... when they groan, what, please tell me!... I just say, with a big ol' smile... DON'T DRINK!
Yeah, they hate me for that, but it plants the seed, you know? My mom kinda does the same thing to me, when I'm coughing up a lung... she says, yeah I remember when I was doing that... BEFORE I QUIT SMOKING! Andria
1- you can turn it off in the menu so it doesn't light the display, although I never have
2- the 18650 comes as a package, and you can also buy separate tubes for 18650 and 18350 batteries. Also a seperate controller and an extra battery cover. So either way, really.
3- not too much heavier than a spinner. Most of the weight is the replaceable battery... Where other devices make the battery seem like a piece of cheese cloth in comparison.
4- other than the connector being too soft for a drop, it's a very good quality and well worth the price.
single button menu is why I got this to begin with.
3 clicks to start it... Then page to what you want...pause, then it will let you select. I read the instructions after I figured it out on my own in 30 seconds
all of the above... Exactly how I feel
I have several Vamo V2's from FF, and I LOVE them. They are over a year old, and are still going strong.
No problems what-so-ever.
They are sooo easy to read what the watts are set at, (and too change), to read the amount of battery left, and the coil resistance, etc
I have a couple Provari's, a Sid, Gripper, and Itaste,
When it comes to working with the programming and menu on them, I"ll will take the Vamo over any of them anyday.
Yeah I know Provari people (before you disc me).. it's good quality, but it's a pain in the ... compared to the Vamo.
I like being able to push the button ONCE, and read the face,....not 11-13 times to get to the menu part I want.
Also I hate having to the push the button while I trying to turn it bass-ackwards, so I can read the menu window.
You hold it in front of you, push the buttom, and where's the face ?? on the other side .. plus it's turned sideways.
So now you have to turn your wrist around, AND sidways, plus poke the button 1 to 13 times.
Is it good quality ...yes, but ............ the Vamo is so much easier to use for me.
I have had 4 Vamos in daily rotation for over a year, and they are as good as new.
I bought stainless steel, and they all have a different JWrap and cute little "faces"
I can buy 5 Vamo's for the price of 1 Provari. If four broke, I'm still left with one 1.
I guess I just had to have one because I had to keep up with the "Jones".
I also wanted to see what all the "hype" was about.
OOps, I think I got carried away, and I have stepped on enough toes today ... (you guys used to like me
)So Omg, Yes I would pick the Vamo or Sid for a Noob mov'in up .. just my opinion
Haven't used the Sid that much, so listen to Ken and Iffy
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They're like a traditional style flashlight, a tube that holds the battery and a head that has the working bits. So the tube must be different lengths for different batteries. It's sold with a tube big enough for the longer 18650 and the top. You can get a shorter tube in either 18350 or 18500 size if you want a shorter mod with corresponding shorter vaping time. Most folks probably don't want to use the smaller batteries so it's marketed with just the long tube only to keep the cost down.
Quality is decent as is the finish. But the head is a softer material than most tanks threads so if you drop it or continually over tighten the tank you'll eventually have threading issues. You'll have the same issues with most of the inexpensive mods so it isn't a reason to not get a SID. Certain others use an even softer metal construction.
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Actually... The reason I have two SIDs is because I figured I would get backup parts for the one I had. Instead of getting a separate 18650 tube, I got an 18350 tube. I figured the tube would be the LAST thing to need replacing... Once I got the separate controller, tube and battery cover, I realized I now have a shorty to back up my longer one with.
And, it's ok Slots. Lots of people find the many clicks to get where you want to go to be irritating. I don't, so am happy.
And, it's ok Slots. Lots of people find the many clicks to get where you want to go to be irritating. I don't, so am happy.
Well, you get the credit here! and thanks!
Gongrats on thrt two yearr anny anniversary coulple of days a go. I meant to get bak but got olst on the influx posts! They all are ,mportant.
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