Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

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I still like "analog" as a euphemism for a cigarette. I was at an impressionable age (in my 20s, I think) when big changeovers were being made to digital circuitry from analog circuitry.

So for me, analog means antiquated, digital means new and improved.

Of course, that was long before people realized that analog sometimes produced superior results, and that digital recording was less than perfect, and vinyl records made a comeback, etc.

It is also the semi-inappropriateness of the term for the purpose used that makes me like it.

Sort of like calling bread raw toast.
 

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I get irritated when people look at my PV and say"Oh! You are smoking one of those e-cigarettes!"

My response is "I do not smoke, and haven't for over a year and a half. Does this look like a cigarette? That vapor is a mixture of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin, the same stuff that is in breathing treatments for asthma and COPD. The amount of nicotine I put in it is minimal. I haven't had a cold since I started doing it." That shuts them up. :vapor:
 

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I get irritated when people look at my PV and say"Oh! You are smoking one of those e-cigarettes!"

My response is "I do not smoke, and haven't for over a year and a half. Does this look like a cigarette? That vapor is a mixture of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin, the same stuff that is in breathing treatments for asthma and COPD. The amount of nicotine I put in it is minimal. I haven't had a cold since I started doing it." That shuts them up. :vapor:
That's all true, but it sounds a little defensive. You should just kill them and bury their bodies in a shallow ditch, instead. The best defense is a good offense!
 

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That's all true, but it sounds a little defensive. You should just kill them and bury their bodies in a shallow ditch, instead. The best defense is a good offense!
Despite the fact that I am a nice person, some things just get my dander up. Like having to go to smoking areas in order to vape. Smokers smell so bad!


OOOHH! I just got VERIFIED!!
 

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I get this lately and it's on the younguns to the elderly ones. My theory, it's the coils. We had that long run of bad Kanger coils and now it seems a lot of them have too much flavor wick in them. Chronic chain vapor here and I've learned to take a couple of dry hits (not press button) every now and then. The coil I'm using now a pulled a "thread" or two of flavor wick out and it works well. The previous one I pulled 3 or 4 teeny threads out and it worked perfectly for a while then flooded constantly. :unsure: The dry hits off these coils are just nasty, make the old burnt dry hits off the bad coils batches seem like heaven.

The first thing I did was change coils. I'm running 80-90% pg in my DIY, so I would think it would wick okay. I've been doing the extra draws before I fire until I can get it fixed.

Amoret, next time it's empty, take a close look at the air hole in the base. Might be some unwanted blockage there, that cleaning the usual way may or may not dislodge?

I was staring at the air hole on the currently empty one and didn't see any blockage, but I'll try using a toothpick to clean it before I put it back together.

Part of the theory of having four now is that I can have three in use and one getting cleaned and dried without having to sit and hand dry the parts.
 

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I get irritated when people look at my PV and say"Oh! You are smoking one of those e-cigarettes!"

My response is "I do not smoke, and haven't for over a year and a half. Does this look like a cigarette? That vapor is a mixture of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin, the same stuff that is in breathing treatments for asthma and COPD. The amount of nicotine I put in it is minimal. I haven't had a cold since I started doing it." That shuts them up. :vapor:

I haven't had a cold either, and it's been almost 5 months, I'd have at least one (hayfever season is upon us) by now..if not two..and notta, no more "chronic bronchitis" either :)
 

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Digital electronics are circuits where different voltage levels are separated into discrete steps, usually on and off (0 or 1). The important part is that one range of voltages is lumped together into one value, and other ranges of values are lumped together into other values. That's where the "digits" part of "digital" comes from. So, for example, if you had a circuit where everything between 0V and .25V was lumped together to mean 0, everything over .25 but less than .5V would mean 1, everything over .5V but less than .75V meant 2, and everything over .75V meant 3, then you'd have a digital circuit.

Analog circuits are where the value of the voltage can vary continuously over a given range. It could be 3.14159265... or 3.2, or 2.7182814... or 2.75, or whatever value. Each of the infinite possible values is different from the other possible values. When you turn the volume knob, and the music gets louder and louder steadily, that's an analog circuit. When you press the volume up button and the volume gets a fixed step louder for each button press, that's a digital circuit.

So, what does any of this have to do with cigarette smoking? Attaching a coil to a battery, where the voltage of the battery and the resistance of the coil causes the coil to heat up, and deliver the heat to a wick is not an example of what I would call a digital circuit. The voltage is continuously variable in the circuit and affects the output. There are no "digits" or ranges of values with a fixed meaning, so it is not digital. If I had to call it something, I would call it analog. On the other hand, if you have a computer controlled regulated device, then you might actually have something you could call "digital." Either way, cigarette smoking has absolutely nothing to do with analog circuits, and the only reason that calling cigarettes "analog" even vaguely makes sense, is to contrast it with so-called "digital" smoking. But, it's not digital, and it's not smoking, so the whole thing is just plain silly in my opinion, and makes no sense at all.

I think calling them stinkies could hurt someone's feelings, but I did happen to walk past one of my students in class yesterday, and it was OBVIOUS that he was a smoker (I didn't actually know he was a smoker until then). So, there you go.

You may find this difficult to believe, but it's OK with me if you call it anything you want, as long as I understand what you're talking about :) But, when I write, I usually don't use the terms "analog," "digital," or "stinkies." I usually refer to "cigarettes," "atomizers," "batteries," "mods," and so on. Some of these terms are pretty arguable as well (like most mods now-a-days aren't really mods, in the original sense). I suppose I should say vaporizers instead of atomizers, or something, but atty is short and easy to type.

Teach electronics (and write instruction sheets on the side) don't you?

Your wicking material busted me up last night. You need to share that here sometime.
 

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Analog, digital, stinkie, PV, e-cigarette, whatever.

I have no problems with labels, as long as I get the message. IMO, "politically correct" has just gone too far... folks get offended, or put off by, or want to argue about the least little thing these days.

To me, when I hear "analog" I get a mental picture of a continuous sine wave (or the second hand on a Rolex :)). Digital is a square wave (or timed pulse), and either all-on or all-off.

In my understanding, any regulated PV is digital. The chips in a regulated PV convert the continuous DC feed of a battery into ON/OFF ON/OFF pulses. The cheaper ones use a slower chip, measured in hertz... and that is part of what makes a Provari better than the rest, it has a higher megahertz chip (along with better supporting circuitry), so it "feels" more like it's actually analog. And if that's so, an all-mechanical mod is technically an "analog" and a regulated is a "digital"... right?

Still, a tobacco cigarette could be considered "analog" because, once lit, it burns continuously until it's put out. And in today's world "electronic" and "digital" are practically synonymous... so, any battery powered electronic nicotine delivery system could be, albeit mistakenly, called a "digital".

Either way, I'm just glad that recent advances in compact, high energy batteries have single-handedly driven the rise and wide spread use of Personal Vaporizers in the last few years. And I'm SO glad that... because of that, and the moral support I have received from the good folks in this thread, I haven't smoked a tobacco cigarette in 545 days.

Hallelujah Beauregard
 

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Teach electronics (and write instruction sheets on the side) don't you?

Your wicking material busted me up last night. You need to share that here sometime.

Well, I mainly teach computer programming and databases, but I'm teaching a micro-computer hardware class right now, so the difference between analog and digital circuitry is kind of at the top of my mind at the moment ;)

On the wicking material, I generally save the silly posts for the silly threads :) Every time I get on a roll, someone tells me to take it to the back porch :)
 

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That's all true, but it sounds a little defensive. You should just kill them and bury their bodies in a shallow ditch, instead. The best defense is a good offense!

Thinking of doing cadaver training with El Whacko so this idea is even more appealing. Going outside to dig the hole just so I'm prepared.

I haven't had a cold either, and it's been almost 5 months, I'd have at least one (hayfever season is upon us) by now..if not two..and notta, no more "chronic bronchitis" either :)

I haven't either and it's been wonderful.
 
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One of the major downsides of teaching is that students are disease vectors. I never used to get sick at all when I worked from home, and I usually get sick at least three or four times a year since I started teaching. We'll see if there's any difference this year, now that I vape instead of smoke. My father-in-law highly recommends I get a flu vaccination. That sounds like a good idea, but my natural impulse is to resist, just because he suggested it :) I like my father-in-law a lot, but if you think I'm a windbag, you should spend some time with him ;)
 

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Any selectable VV/VW vaping PV is 'digital' due to the voltage level (regardless of selected mode) is an on/off and zero or one /(aka digital switching) electronic control method to maintain a selected voltage or wattage.

Are mechs digital? Not technically, within my electronic digital and analog education. BUT, in da genesis of vaping, analog vs digital was just a means to differentiate twix smoking 'bakky and a batt operated vapor device. Therefore, I'll gladly accept mechs as digital for the sake of peaceful intercourse.

I continue to be entertained with the angst of many here on the ECF that are so 'digitally' polarized that there are only two sides/states; right or wrong! Actually, we have a greater quest beyond 'tilting digital/analog windmills'. If folk spent just one tenth of their fruitless definition efforts and focused on being politically vaping activists, we all would be better off!

Being an ex-smoker, dirty ashtrays, smoke saturated clothing and, now, diesel fuel fumes truly assault my olfactory cells. Cig smoke does not bother me; although I can smell it as never before.

As for stinkies, analogs, coffin nails or whatever, it's all ol' history fer moi! I'll use any of 'em as I see fit. No phobia here...
 

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I guess things happen for a reason.
I just used the last of my current bottle of PG. I've got a full one here somewhere, but in a week of looking, I just cannot find it!
I've got enough of my 50/50 blank base to last about a week longer, so I just had to break down and order some more.
I get my PG and VG from Amazon, so I went to my past orders and the last order was just in June. That confirms that I should have a full one here somewhere.
Oh, well.. Order a new bottle of each...
And lo... Guess what Amazon sells now, in 10, 15 and 30 ml sizes?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JVTC3NS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 

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I guess things happen for a reason.
I just used the last of my current bottle of PG. I've got a full one here somewhere, but in a week of looking, I just cannot find it!
I've got enough of my 50/50 blank base to last about a week longer, so I just had to break down and order some more.
I get my PG and VG from Amazon, so I went to my past orders and the last order was just in June. That confirms that I should have a full one here somewhere.
Oh, well.. Order a new bottle of each...
And lo... Guess what Amazon sells now, in 10, 15 and 30 ml sizes?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JVTC3NS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Needlenose bottles? Guessing wrong link.

Reread your post. :blush: I was wondering why anyone would buy 10ml of VG. :lol:
 
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One of the major downsides of teaching is that students are disease vectors. I never used to get sick at all when I worked from home, and I usually get sick at least three or four times a year since I started teaching. We'll see if there's any difference this year, now that I vape instead of smoke. My father-in-law highly recommends I get a flu vaccination. That sounds like a good idea, but my natural impulse is to resist, just because he suggested it :) I like my father-in-law a lot, but if you think I'm a windbag, you should spend some time with him ;)

Husband used to be an firefighter/EMT. He also chews on his nails a lot. Man I got sick a lot. After getting pneumonia (went from fine to hospitalized in a few hours) I started getting flu shots. Make the 180 lbs. germ get one too. It really is worth it especially in the environment you're working in. $30 at any supermarket.
 

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I guess things happen for a reason.
I just used the last of my current bottle of PG. I've got a full one here somewhere, but in a week of looking, I just cannot find it!
I've got enough of my 50/50 blank base to last about a week longer, so I just had to break down and order some more.
I get my PG and VG from Amazon, so I went to my past orders and the last order was just in June. That confirms that I should have a full one here somewhere.
Oh, well.. Order a new bottle of each...
And lo... Guess what Amazon sells now, in 10, 15 and 30 ml sizes?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JVTC3NS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I've gotten some of those, but the little caps are too hard for me to get on. I've also gotten the dropper and turret top bottles from there. But I'm really going to have to bite the bullet and spend the money on the small order and shipping fees so I can get some more of my favorite flip cap bottles. But it hurts to spend that much.
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I've gotten some of those, but the little caps are too hard for me to get on. I've also gotten the dropper and turret top bottles from there. But I'm really going to have to bite the bullet and spend the money on the small order and shipping fees so I can get some more of my favorite flip cap bottles. But it hurts to spend that much.
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What company had them? Weren't they in a huge lot?
 
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