Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

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FlamingoTutu

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What I find is if I use only silica wicks for a few days straight I do get scratchy throat as well...not if I mix and match with my KFL's/cotton wicks I'm fine. I have no reason why..that's just how it is for me.

I'm having an upper, very upper. respiratory asthmatic response to vaping. Mixed more juice combinations in the past few days than I care to remember. None have helped. Looking like it may be the silica which would be the best outcome I could hope for. :banana: :party: :banana:
 

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I'm having an upper, very upper. respiratory asthmatic response to vaping. Mixed more juice combinations in the past few days than I care to remember. None have helped. Looking like it may be the silica which would be the best outcome I could hope for. :banana: :party: :banana:

Yes....give a go at cotton only and that may be your answer. I hope so as it's a very easy fix. Keep us posted...
 

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Hi PapaSloth
I have been thinking of that , well
On the videos I see people using a blow torch to heat the coils and then squeeze them together. One guy I have seen he put it on the atty and fired it then squeezed them. I have all the items on their way but not a torch. Locally at a hardware store they are $30 and I was wondering do i need one ?
Unless i start making creme caramels and use one to heat the sugar on top It won't have much of a use other than heating coils.
First i have heard of space coils care to explain and is the heating and squeezing the coils so they all touch help function or just the look ?
Hi Wolfenstark,

I bought a little butane torch from Harbor Freight for $7, but I don't think it's really needed. It's basically useful for taking the springiness out of the Kanthal, but that's about it. If you do want to squeeze your coils together to get a contact microcoil, you can do that by firing the coil on your mod instead of doing it with the torch before you install the coil. But, I don't even do that any more. Here's a picture of a spaced coil:
379138d1412548244-contact-micro-coils-vs-spaced-coils-magmabuild.jpg

notice the gaps between the wraps. Here's a contact coil:
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Here, the wraps are touching. The "advantage" of a contact microcoil is that the wraps heat each other, so the whole coil gets hotter, particularly at the center. However, in my opinion, this is actually a bad thing, because it heats the juice in the center of the coil to a higher temperature, which causes a flavor change that I personally find undesirable. I prefer the spaced coil because the heat is spread out over a wider area of wick, and the temperatures are lower. I'm semi-convinced that people mostly like contact coils because they look prettier, and they haven't really compared spaced coils to contact coils. But, I'm happy to be educated if someone has a different opinion.
 

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I hear ya, papa. As I always say, common sense doesn't always make sense.

But that being said, it would seem to me that there would be more flavor if they were spaced. More room for the vapor to escape the wick. Not to mention, all factory coils are spaced.
 

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I hear ya, papa. As I always say, common sense doesn't always make sense.

But that being said, it would seem to me that there would be more flavor if they were spaced. More room for the vapor to escape the wick. Not to mention, all factory coils are spaced.

I was thinking that too, Gary, but something I read made me think otherwise. When the juice vaporizes, it expands from a dense liquid to a gas, and the pressure of that expansion causes it to shoot out from between the wraps. So, even though the coil looks like a solid object, the vapor doesn't have any trouble getting out. Once again, I'm not entirely convinced this is true, but it does make sense.
 

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Hi Wolfenstark,

I bought a little butane torch from Harbor Freight for $7, but I don't think it's really needed. It's basically useful for taking the springiness out of the Kanthal, but that's about it. If you do want to squeeze your coils together to get a contact microcoil, you can do that by firing the coil on your mod instead of doing it with the torch before you install the coil. But, I don't even do that any more. Here's a picture of a spaced coil:
379138d1412548244-contact-micro-coils-vs-spaced-coils-magmabuild.jpg

notice the gaps between the wraps. Here's a contact coil:
IMAG2289-1_zps22f8c26a.jpg

Here, the wraps are touching. The "advantage" of a contact microcoil is that the wraps heat each other, so the whole coil gets hotter, particularly at the center. However, in my opinion, this is actually a bad thing, because it heats the juice in the center of the coil to a higher temperature, which causes a flavor change that I personally find undesirable. I prefer the spaced coil because the heat is spread out over a wider area of wick, and the temperatures are lower. I'm semi-convinced that people mostly like contact coils because they look prettier, and they haven't really compared spaced coils to contact coils. But, I'm happy to be educated if someone has a different opinion.

If nothing else, the "touching" coils are far more photogenic. Interesting observations you have made on them.
 

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In my opinion, it is irresponsible to advise others not to get a flu shot. Yes, getting a flu shot does not guarantee that someone will not catch a flu. However, getting a flu shot certainly reduces the chance. It is not an "opinion" that the chance is greatly reduced. It is a demonstrable fact. Makes me wonder about the source of your incorrect information, no offense.

Flu shots generally protect against multiple strains of flu, and it is simply uninformed to state that the same strain never occurs in consecutive years.

I understand that your opinion might be inspired by anti-scientific beliefs, but it is wrong to try to foist those beliefs on those who know better, or upon those who will benefit from being better informed.

I apologize in advance for coming down hard on the radical right-wing science-denying agenda that pervades this thread with regularity.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm

Agreed with the get a flu shot school of thought. I have COPD and get a Flu shot every year. I used to get the flu regularly and haven't had it in so long I can't remember the last time. It may be psychosomatic but that's ok with me. I also get the pneumonia vaccine and boosters when required. A good bout of pneumonia would kill me. 1/2 a lung gone and COPD I listen to my doctors.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
 

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I was thinking the same sorta, the other day when I was squeezing a coil. I wondered if maybe squeezing makes it last longer? Little more durable when changing the wick out? other than that I was wondering why squeeze it as far as function goes. It also seemed to change the ohms in some cases.

yeah, that's a KFL clone on a blk Prothingie blem.

I don't know any other way to make a micro coil and it does change the ohms a little. If it's well blackened first it won't change it much though.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
 

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What got me was when some local nurses got all up in arms the first year it was mandatory for them to get flu shots.

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Has anybody ever heard of someone being sensitive to the silica wicks?

It used to be a weakened virus and you could really get the flu from it. I did. Now days it's a dead virus and can't actually give you the flu. but it can make you feel crappy for a few days as your immune system does it's thing building up your immunity. But not as bad as having the actual flu would unless you already have a compromised immune system. Then I would definitely listen to your doctor first.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.
 

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I apologize in advance for coming down hard on the radical right-wing science-denying agenda that pervades this thread with regularity.

Ya mean kinda like your 'factual' nic in da fridge misinformation? No one made a judgement on your incorrect statement. Just a lil' quote and all was well.

No need to apologize in advance for snide remarks. Insincerity doesn't wear well...

BTW, what nic level are ya vaping now? Ever get dat Nauty working right?

Really enjoying my iSticks/BVCs! Think I'll get a blue one next fer my DIY blueberry.
 
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Agreed with the get a flu shot school of thought. I have COPD and get a Flu shot every year. I used to get the flu regularly and haven't had it in so long I can't remember the last time. It may be psychosomatic but that's ok with me. I also get the pneumonia vaccine and boosters when required. A good bout of pneumonia would kill me. 1/2 a lung gone and COPD I listen to my doctors.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.

:facepalm: Forgot I'm due for the pneumonia shot. Both arms will be sore this year. Thank you for the reminder.


It used to be a weakened virus and you could really get the flu from it. I did. Now days it's a dead virus and can't actually give you the flu. but it can make you feel crappy for a few days as your immune system does it's thing building up your immunity. But not as bad as having the actual flu would unless you already have a compromised immune system. Then I would definitely listen to your doctor first.

This fine print is a not so subtle reminder to always read the fine print before signing anything.

I think they lie through their teeth about the dead virus thing. ;) Got KOed a couple of years ago by the shot but would have been down longer with the flu. The bummer with not getting sick now that I'm vaping, is you don't get to lounge in bed for days at a time with others waiting on you hand and foot while you watch TV, nap and generally be lazy while you recuperate. Hmm, with any luck I'll have a reaction to the shot this year and I'll be able to "smoke" in bed now. :D
 

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Ya mean kinda like your 'factual' nic in da fridge misinformation? No one made a judgement on your incorrect statement. Just a lil' quote and all was well.

No need to apologize in advance for snide remarks. Insincerity doesn't wear well...

BTW, what nic level are ya vaping now? Ever get dat Nauty working right?

Really enjoying my iSticks/BVCs! Think I'll get a blue one next fer my DIY blueberry.

I broke down and ordered the blue instead of the silver. :rolleyes:
 

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Some more coil chatter ...
Non-Contact coils provide me a bit more vape between re-wettings vs. the same wraps and diameter of a contact coil. I like non-contact coils for a long draw vape.
Some say contact provides more consistency and maybe it does from coil to coil ... but I find the vape from hit to hit more consistent in non-contact coil.
I do however find contact coils considerably more power efficient. For example the non-contact coils pictured here dialed in at about 20-25% more power than a similar contact wrap set it replaced (very near same resistances).

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I got many nasty dry hits with the previous contact coils in this cyclone but have yet to get those type of dry hits with this coil set. Again same wire, coil diameters and resistance.
 

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Think I will go with the non contact wraps just try to get them sort of close.

I had a flu shot and some travel vaccination a couple of years ago when I went to Vegas.
It did its thing , have heard that some or many people after they get a flu shot they can then get a flu or similar type symptoms.

I'm not one to get a flu/cold that often , I can think of maybe twice in the last 15 years.
 

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I watched a couple of those BVC builds on utube, haven't tried that yet. There are a few, looks a little fussier than the KF coils I am trying to master now.

I am up to try the spaced KF type coils at the moment on the 4/40 screw and what's up with that.

Instead of using a smooth rod on which to wind, just wind on the machine screw, with the kanthal in the threads. Pull tight as you wind, with the number of wraps needed for your gauge and desired resistance. Nice consistent and tight spacing.
 
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