Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2
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In the future I will, really I will:
It could have been worse:
- Manage to not notice that you are running out of your main flavor
- Go to fill your clearo
- Realize that you are out of your main flavor
- Realize that you haven't made up a new batch of base
- Realize that you have not transferred that recipe into the calculator you are now using
- See that you have two versions of the base you use in the ingredient list, and pick one at random, without looking at the details
- It's a simple recipe, so enter it in a hurry, and don't think about whether it looks like it makes sense
- Decide that it's not worth it to clean off the table - it's just one bottle, right - so set up right next to your laptop
Production:
- Get out your new scale that you haven't used yet
- Get out the last of your old batch of base - it looks like about the right amount
- Start weighing out the base
- Completely ignore the fact that the amount doesn't look right
- Remove cat from chair arm
- Use up all of the base when you haven't gotten to the amount you were planning yet
- Decide to add VG - you were thinking of lowering your nic, right?
- Pour VG directly from large bottle into small bottle, over scale
- Clean up spilled VG
- Let the dog out
- Tare the scale, then remember to get out the flavoring
- Eyeball the amount of flavoring left in the open bottle and decide that it looks like plenty
- Turn the scale back on, tare it again (30 ml is about 3/4 of a 60 ml bottle, isn't it?)
- Start adding the flavoring
- Drop the flavoring bottle (not empty yet) into your lap
- Clean up lap, chair, etc. without noting how much flavoring you've added yet
- Turn scale back on
- Realize that you really do have way more than 30 ml in that bottle
- Look at ingredient list and realize that the specific gravity of your second nic base is way off, and you are using that entry
- Let the dog back in
- Figure out how much you really have in the bottle, using the correct entry for nic base
- Remove cat from chair arm
- Adjust the recipe for the actual amount
- Try to remember how much flavoring you had already added
- Start adding what you think you still need, empty the bottle
- Dig through all of your flavorings to find the new bottle that you did get, thank goodness
- Remove cat from chair arm
- Vow to get yet another scale - one without auto shutoff
- Try to remember how much flavoring you had already added - guesstimate and add
- Close bottle, shake, label, and clean up
- Finish filling clearo - it actually isn't too bad
In the future I will, really I will:
- Keep track of how much made up liquid I have on hand, no matter how distracting life is being
- Really look at the recipe to be sure it makes sense
- Not ignore any nagging little feeling that something's not right
- Obey all those silly rules about getting the pets out of the way, clearing a good workspace, getting all of the ingredients out before starting
It could have been worse:
- I do make my base up in advance, so I wasn't dealing with 100 mg nic, but in the future I won't let my supply of it get so low
- I only spilled VG and flavoring - my chair smells like Earl Grey Tea on steroids, but no people or animals were harmed
- The juice isn't bad - a little over flavored, but it's had less than 10 minutes steeping
- I was planning on trying a lower nicotine batch anyhow (really, I was)
- The scale, laptop and table have a nice shine to them - who knew VG is a good furniture polish
- I didn't lose my temper, my sanity (what there is of it) or my sense of humor
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amoret, if you got a spike strip for your chair you could eliminate about six of those steps. 
Hilarious post! Glad you got it made.
Hilarious post! Glad you got it made.
Preparation (or lack thereof):
- Manage to not notice that you are running out of your main flavor
- Go to fill your clearo
- Realize that you are out of your main flavor
- Realize that you haven't made up a new batch of base
- Realize that you have not transferred that recipe into the calculator you are now using
- See that you have two versions of the base you use in the ingredient list, and pick one at random, without looking at the details
- It's a simple recipe, so enter it in a hurry, and don't think about whether it looks like it makes sense
- Decide that it's not worth it to clean off the table - it's just one bottle, right - so set up right next to your laptop
Production:
- Get out your new scale that you haven't used yet
- Get out the last of your old batch of base - it looks like about the right amount
- Start weighing out the base
- Completely ignore the fact that the amount doesn't look right
- Remove cat from chair arm
- Use up all of the base when you haven't gotten to the amount you were planning yet
- Decide to add VG - you were thinking of lowering your nic, right?
- Pour VG directly from large bottle into small bottle, over scale
- Clean up spilled VG
- Let the dog out
- Tare the scale, then remember to get out the flavoring
- Eyeball the amount of flavoring left in the open bottle and decide that it looks like plenty
- Turn the scale back on, tare it again (30 ml is about 3/4 of a 60 ml bottle, isn't it?)
- Start adding the flavoring
- Drop the flavoring bottle (not empty yet) into your lap
- Clean up lap, chair, etc. without noting how much flavoring you've added yet
- Turn scale back on
- Realize that you really do have way more than 30 ml in that bottle
- Look at ingredient list and realize that the specific gravity of your second nic base is way off, and you are using that entry
- Let the dog back in
- Figure out how much you really have in the bottle, using the correct entry for nic base
- Remove cat from chair arm
- Adjust the recipe for the actual amount
- Try to remember how much flavoring you had already added
- Start adding what you think you still need what you think you still need, empty the bottle
- Dig through all of your flavorings to find the new bottle that you did get, thank goodness
- Remove cat from chair arm
- Vow to get yet another scale - one without auto shutoff
- Try to remember how much flavoring you had already added - guesstimate and add
- Close bottle, shake, label, and clean up
- Finish filling clearo - it actually isn't too bad
In the future I will, really I will:
- Keep track of how much made up liquid I have on hand, no matter how distracting life is being
- Really look at the recipe to be sure it makes sense
- Not ignore any nagging little feeling that something's not right
- Obey all those silly rules about getting the pets out of the way, clearing a good workspace, getting all of the ingredients out before starting
It could have been worse:
- I do make my base up in advance, so I wasn't dealing with 100 mg nic, but in the future I won't let my supply of it get so low
- I only spilled VG and flavoring - my chair smells like Earl Grey Tea on steroids, but no people or animals were harmed
- The juice isn't bad - a little over flavored, but it's had less than 10 minutes steeping
- I was planning on trying a lower nicotine batch anyhow (really, I was)
- The scale, laptop and table have a nice shine to them - who knew VG is a good furniture polish
- I didn't lose my temper, my sanity (what there is of it) or my sense of humor
That's a hoot, Amoret. I did know about the furniture-polishing attributes of VG. Don't listen to Flamingo regarding the spike strip. I don't use a scale for my joose-mixing but I do use one for my coffee-roasting. If I'm going to be needing to read it beyond the time it will auto-shut-off, I tap the scale every few seconds with my finger, which changes the weight momentarily, which keeps the scale from turning off.
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Superb! Did you print that out and put it on the fridge?
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Ah, yes. THAT is the reason I never got an istick. It don't have a replacable battery
Well, neither does the MVP2 but it's really a decent piece. I figger itz good for a year or so. Mine's prolly going for close to 10 months.
Hi Wolfenstark,
Both the Provari and the Hana DNA30 are variable wattage devices. Wattage (power) dictates how much vapor is generated, and the size of your coil will affect how much that wattage is spread over the wick. The more the power is spread out, the lower the temperature at any point. Generally speaking, as long as the temperature is hot enough the vaporize the juice, the lower the temperature is, the better the flavor will be. Since you'll be setting the wattage directly, this makes the final resistance of the coil somewhat less important. I'd probably go for the full 13 wraps or so at 2mm and shoot for around 1.5 Ohms, or maybe even go for 10 wraps at 3mm. Then, you can play around with the wattage until you find a setting you like.
If you had a mech mod, instead of a variable wattage device, the only way to increase the power would be to lower the resistance. Then, it would make more sense to build a smaller coil.
Sheesh, I was just trying to help. Replace cat with deer, chair with porch, scale with syringes and I've done all those mistakes. Problem is I rarely learn from them.
Here’s what happened with the vape juice emergency, but some background first.
I have an allergy to a local mold which seems to primarily reside in the dirt. Gives me asthma. A lot of people around here have a problem with it. Never had it before I got here, 24 years ago, and don’t get it elsewhere. Between the drought and especially last year’s 400 square mile fire, we got a lot of exposed good old dirt now. The dog brings in tons of dirt in his coat too so asthma, to varying degrees, is almost year round.
Flew up to Portland and it was very nice to be able to breathe well. Really, really nice. Couldn’t vape at my parents’ place, on buses, trams, etc. Not in the stores or at the zoo. (yikes, first went there 56 years ago with my grandmother!) A long time between vapes. I then noticed that I was getting a sharp pain in my chest, about the size of a dime, half way between the solar plexus and collar bone. It was a doozy of a pain, smarted a lot. It kept getting worse but only happened when/just after I vaped. And I got slight asthma symptoms.
Key lime used to be my favorite but noticed it began to exacerbate my asthma so quit using it. Figured it was the same thing with the blackberry and asked Sloth about the shop. Shop fixed me up with no flavor 80/20 and the pain was gone. Immediately.
However, the asthma symptoms were still there when I vaped sometimes. The juice from the shop seemed a bit thick and thought it might have been mixed with a higher VG than intended. Home now and made my own plain 80/20. Same problem. Mixed 70/30 once and thought I had this same problem so have been using 80/20 ever since. Next I’ll try 90/10. Better to catch on late rather than never but it’s going to be a bit of a bear figuring this out back in hay fever country.
The really good news is that when I wasn't vaping, it was nice to know how clear my lungs are. My doctor has said how good they sound but it often doesn't feel like it when it’s hard to breathe. So, there you go. Maybe some of you reading this means you might be able to help out someone else down the road.
Anybody here use a 100% PG mix?
I have an allergy to a local mold which seems to primarily reside in the dirt. Gives me asthma. A lot of people around here have a problem with it. Never had it before I got here, 24 years ago, and don’t get it elsewhere. Between the drought and especially last year’s 400 square mile fire, we got a lot of exposed good old dirt now. The dog brings in tons of dirt in his coat too so asthma, to varying degrees, is almost year round.
Flew up to Portland and it was very nice to be able to breathe well. Really, really nice. Couldn’t vape at my parents’ place, on buses, trams, etc. Not in the stores or at the zoo. (yikes, first went there 56 years ago with my grandmother!) A long time between vapes. I then noticed that I was getting a sharp pain in my chest, about the size of a dime, half way between the solar plexus and collar bone. It was a doozy of a pain, smarted a lot. It kept getting worse but only happened when/just after I vaped. And I got slight asthma symptoms.
Key lime used to be my favorite but noticed it began to exacerbate my asthma so quit using it. Figured it was the same thing with the blackberry and asked Sloth about the shop. Shop fixed me up with no flavor 80/20 and the pain was gone. Immediately.
However, the asthma symptoms were still there when I vaped sometimes. The juice from the shop seemed a bit thick and thought it might have been mixed with a higher VG than intended. Home now and made my own plain 80/20. Same problem. Mixed 70/30 once and thought I had this same problem so have been using 80/20 ever since. Next I’ll try 90/10. Better to catch on late rather than never but it’s going to be a bit of a bear figuring this out back in hay fever country.
The really good news is that when I wasn't vaping, it was nice to know how clear my lungs are. My doctor has said how good they sound but it often doesn't feel like it when it’s hard to breathe. So, there you go. Maybe some of you reading this means you might be able to help out someone else down the road.
Anybody here use a 100% PG mix?
I've been trying to sleep for over 5 hours. I just can't!
I've been debating whether or not to buy a used Provari when I get paid. Well, my pay was deposited in my account a few hours ago.
I just have to do it!
Now, to wait for the person that owns the cheaper of the two to wake up. If that one is available, I will soon own a standard-sized Provari with a butterfly wrap. If that one is no longer available, then I'll try for the one that's just a tiny bit more, but has an extension cap.
If they're both gone? I'll pout. But, I'll at least not have to worry about how I'm going to be able to eat for the next two weeks.
See why I can't sleep? I never can sleep if I'm the least bit excited or nervous. So, no sleep for this girl tonight. Oh, well. I have to wake up in an hour or so anyway.
I've been debating whether or not to buy a used Provari when I get paid. Well, my pay was deposited in my account a few hours ago.
I just have to do it!
Now, to wait for the person that owns the cheaper of the two to wake up. If that one is available, I will soon own a standard-sized Provari with a butterfly wrap. If that one is no longer available, then I'll try for the one that's just a tiny bit more, but has an extension cap.
If they're both gone? I'll pout. But, I'll at least not have to worry about how I'm going to be able to eat for the next two weeks.
See why I can't sleep? I never can sleep if I'm the least bit excited or nervous. So, no sleep for this girl tonight. Oh, well. I have to wake up in an hour or so anyway.
Wolf;
Whether a piece of wire is straight or wrapped into a coil, the resistance is the same. Changing the size of loops does not change the resistance. The only thing that changes the resistance of a given gauge of wire is changing the length of the wire. If the calculator you're using shows an increase in resistance when larger loops are used, it's because it takes more wire to make 6 loops at 3mm diameter than it does to make 6 loops at 2mm diameter.
The "legs" are the straight ends of the piece of wire you use, measured from where the wire is no longer in a coil shape to where the wire makes contact with the posts of your atomizer. The distance between the positive post and negative post of your atomizer is not relevant to those measurements.
I waited for the experts to chime in before I responded, and quoted their posts, to make sure I wasn't giving any misinformation. I'm just telling you the same things that they were, but in different words.
You probably know this already, but the term "sub-ohming" generally is used to mean a coil that has less than 1.0 ohms of resistance. Cloud chasers might say that a coil needs to be WAY under 1.0 ohms to qualify as a sub-ohm coil, but they tend to be a little nuts.
After you said that a dealer in Australia was accepting pre-orders for the Provari V3, I just had to go check it out. I'm guessing this is the place you're talking about: Steam-e-cigs | ProVari P3 Preorder - ProVari + accessories - Products
Congrats on the Cloupor DNA30. I love mine (both of them).
Thanks bigbells think I'm getting the gist of this well to give it a go when all the items arrive.
Yes that is the place here well otherside if the country from where I am taking preorders. Will just wait and see what places in USA are selling them for. Many things here are not just the difference in the exchange rate plus say shipping costs. Something's get a goods and services tax and also some other money added to it. I call it the gouge tax, it's like if a store in the USA can sell 10,000 of something and a store here only sells 5000 then the stores here will try and sell it for double.
Just because your consumer base is less than somewhere else that's not your ticket to charge more. It may end up an ok price if the price of them in the USA is roughly the same but I'm still going to try and buy it from a USA store because 5 sites here never replied to my emails when I asked will you be selling a p3 for the same price as in the USA taking into account the exchange rate and possible gst or will you be charging more and if so why will you be charging more when people can buy them online from other countries ?
I can't sleep either but going to jump into bed after this and give it the old college try. No, wait, I went to college and... Nevermind. Going to sleep right after this.
I hope you get it. As they said, "totally" know how you feel. Yeah, I used to do ebay. I really do hope you get it. Rooting for you. Please let us know how it turns out. G'night, for real. I hope.
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Now, that was a fun read w/ my morning coffee.
Good luck 'times 2'. One for getting the "P" and one for getting some Zzzz's.
Done deal. My *new* black Provari will be in the mail today. I will soon no longer be a Provari virgin!
Sleep? Who needs sleep?
Sleep? Who needs sleep?
Do they even make a scale without auto-shutoff?
Mine shuts off in the middle of adding if I forget to tap it with my finger.
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I'm super low on juice. My favorite flavors I'm almost out of, and they seem to all be running out at exactly the same time. I placed an order with Lisa from LKA Vapes for 5-6x5mL bottles to get a "sample" so to speak. All fruity stuff.
Debating on getting a Zample Box. Anyone else like them? I just usually stick with fruit flavors and I tend to be a bit picky so I'm worried about not getting something I like. I'm sure I'd like some of them but I'm hesitant.
Any other reccommended subscription services?
Debating on getting a Zample Box. Anyone else like them? I just usually stick with fruit flavors and I tend to be a bit picky so I'm worried about not getting something I like. I'm sure I'd like some of them but I'm hesitant.
Any other reccommended subscription services?
Hi PapaSloth
From what I gather although one day i will spend a tad more time on one article rather than spreading my time over several. Except for in here where its all focus
Mech mods seem to be more lets say raw and less forgiving than regulated mods. Reg mods seem more automatic which sounds good to me at this stage.
I think at some stage i will get a different experience than I am currently by using the nautilus and the bvc's with whatever the wicking material is they have -some hard white stuff it looks like.
Some of this rayon juiced up wicked into a coil sounds like it will offer something different. Will that be good or bad well with I'm sure unless first time lucky may take some tweaking. Not that I'm one of these people to be forever chasing the end of the rainbow , I'm actually easily pleased.
It's an enjoyable interest / hobby / journey , plus the community as a whole are welcoming and helpful.
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