Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 2

[FlamingoTutu]

And still need 10 char, lol.

 

[MattB101]

Welcome RedRuth. We were all noob once and I think you'll find most here more than willing to help so ask away.

Sent while presently sitting on my .... watching mind numbing prattle on the TV. 257 Channels and nothing on.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Hi folks, I'm a total newbie. I've got a Vamo v5 which I'm just trying to get used to but already I think I'm going to love it.

Lost my brother in Feb due to his smoking analogs (is that the right word?). I've tried so many times to quit and failed but I'm really excited about vaping and already think I'm going to love it. Just dabbling at the moment. Working out how to use it and the technique is a bit different. First few tries I nearly choked myself.
Not very 'up' on the jargon lol but working on it, so please excuse me if I make a gaff. Look forward to getting to know new friends on here.

Hi Ruth! Welcome to the porch. I don't know about the Vamo but this might help with the lingo. Ecig Terms and Definitions, Vapeology - Electronic Cigarette Forums - Ecig Advanced

I'm very sorry about your brother, it has to be so though. Pleased to hear you took up vaping and appears to be agreeing with you.

 

[MikeE3]

Hope I snipped ^^^ correctly. Nice photo! What is the advantage of a vertical coil? Abbreviated version for utter dummies is fine. Warmer vape, better wicking... ?

Better airflow through the coil as air is passing thru the center. The idea is to make the I.D. of the coil the same size as the air hole of the atty. Better airflow = better vapor and flavor.

Whoa, that's cool, er hot How did you wick that?

Just stopping in for a bit, work is taking up waaaay too much time.

That one was wicked w/ hemp. The hemp was 'uber cleaned' (multiple boilings and washing/risnsing in oxyclean). Then it was cut up into small pieces and soaked in 50/50 pg/vg - then lightly packed into the chamber all around the coil. It worked well but I could only vape bakky flavors w/ it (the hemp for wick). No matter how I prepped the hemp it always imparted a taste to my juices. The 'taste' was Ok w/ bakky flavors but it ruined (for me) any of my fruit flavors. When I stopped bakky flavors, I stopped using hemp wicking. You could also do the same w/ cotton or rayon instead of the hemp. I think the rayon would probably work better though. It seems to 'transport' the juice and not suck it up like cotton.

Both GrimmGreen and IndoorSmokers said that the Nautilus (with BVC's) had replaced their Kayfuns for daily usage.

Me wonders if that's still true for them. I was thinking that also, for the 1st few days w/ a Nautilus, particularly, just change a head and vape again, no maintenance. i think the Naut/BVC is the best clearo topper I've used and compares well to rebuildables - but just not the same. Mine is now relegated to a backup and or gets added to the travel bag when we're away from home and I don't want to fiddle w/ rebuildables.

Even though I cannot afford to buy vertical coils, I am vaping on one. Thanks, Mike. It really is easier, doesn't require a third hand for installation. Just stick the mandrel in the air-hole, and it holds the coil nice and straight and steady. Still breaking it in, it might have also resolved the leaking problem.

Yay! Nice! I'm glad its worked out for you. What are you using for wicking?

Just be careful with that long lead, so it doesn't have a chance of causing a direct short. There was a preferred 'leg' (either the positive or negative) to use as the long leg to minimize shorting concerning. But for the live of me I can't remember whether the one is my picture was done the 'preferred' way.

 

[MikeE3]

Hi folks, I'm a total newbie. I've got a Vamo v5 which I'm just trying to get used to but already I think I'm going to love it.

Lost my brother in Feb due to his smoking analogs (is that the right word?). I've tried so many times to quit and failed but I'm really excited about vaping and already think I'm going to love it. Just dabbling at the moment. Working out how to use it and the technique is a bit different. First few tries I nearly choked myself.
Not very 'up' on the jargon lol but working on it, so please excuse me if I make a gaff. Look forward to getting to know new friends on here.

Hello and welcome to the porch and your new vaping friends. We're all here to learn and help when we can. So just ask away, with any of your questions. You'll get lots of answers and caution! - lots of suggestions on how to spend your money.

 

[MattB101]

Mike, mailbox still empty but I did get tracking info.

Sent while presently sitting on my .... watching mind numbing prattle on the TV. 257 Channels and nothing on.

 

[bigbells]

I hate to admit it but I would vape away 2200 mah is about 4 or 5 hours. Tend to chain vape a lot.

Hi, my name's Dave, and I also could not get through a full day on 2200 mah.

Hi folks, I'm a total newbie. I've got a Vamo v5 which I'm just trying to get used to but already I think I'm going to love it.

Lost my brother in Feb due to his smoking analogs (is that the right word?). I've tried so many times to quit and failed but I'm really excited about vaping and already think I'm going to love it. Just dabbling at the moment. Working out how to use it and the technique is a bit different. First few tries I nearly choked myself.
Not very 'up' on the jargon lol but working on it, so please excuse me if I make a gaff. Look forward to getting to know new friends on here.

Welcome, RedRuth, and heartfelt condolences on the loss of your brother.

Yes, you were smart to realize right away that the technique is different. The good thing is that your nasal cavity is able to absorb nicotine, so it's not necessary to inhale the vapor deeply into your lungs. A lot of us take some, but not all, of the vapor into our lungs. It's an enjoyable learning curve.

Truth be told, I've yet to try one. With the continued uncertainty over the feds, I'm trying to keep everything in my arsenal to toppers I can recoil. A variety of glass, but all use single bottom coils. Rewound to my personal specs, with air flow bases.... and a bunch of KFs for serious vaping

Subtle RBA snobbery, implying that those of us who have chosen not to travel the RBA road are not serious.

Me wonders if that's still true for them. I was thinking that also, for the 1st few days w/ a Nautilus, particularly, just change a head and vape again, no maintenance. i think the Naut/BVC is the best clearo topper I've used and compares well to rebuildables - but just not the same. Mine is now relegated to a backup and or gets added to the travel bag when we're away from home and I don't want to fiddle w/ rebuildables.

I wouldn't be surprised if the enthusiasm has calmed down some. It's the nature of the beast. I also use my Nautilus when I don't want to fiddle with rebuildables, but for me, that's ALWAYS.

 

[3mg Meniere]

Yay! Nice! I'm glad its worked out for you. What are you using for wicking?

Just be careful with that long lead, so it doesn't have a chance of causing a direct short. There was a preferred 'leg' (either the positive or negative) to use as the long leg to minimize shorting concerning. But for the live of me I can't remember whether the one is my picture was done the 'preferred' way.

Rayon wicking. I am not sure which leg is on top. However, I was well aware of the short possibility, and squeezed the coil and heated it before installation. I also used my 3mm mandrel, and have 2.5Ω, so next time it will not be as many rounds. It may be my favorite build for the Russian, since the chimney is narrower and taller than the Orchid.

 

[mmsjs5]

Just be careful with that long lead, so it doesn't have a chance of causing a direct short. There was a preferred 'leg' (either the positive or negative) to use as the long leg to minimize shorting concerning. But for the live of me I can't remember whether the one is my picture was done the 'preferred' way.

From the Google pics I looked at, the vote is 11 to 5 in your favor.

 

[Iffy]

Hi folks, I'm a total newbie.

Redruth,

Dere is not one of us here that wasn't!!! Welcome to da rockingest porch on da web!

I think by now your questions have been answered. Please feel free to quiz da wizards!


For Gary, I can only think of two probable reasons for juice in da mouth with a BVC equipped Nautilus:

- defective Nautilus from manufacturer (highly unlikely) <although it appears BB did have a lil' topper issue of an unknown cause>
- improper owner reassembly (very possible and more than likely)

For those totally dissatisfied with their N/BVCs, I strongly suspect that a 'partial' resolution is available via a PM.





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[MikeE3]

From the Google pics I looked at, the vote is 11 to 5 in your favor.

Now that I think about it and look at some pictures of folks I learned from - I think that is the preferred way. The long leg from the top goes to the neg screw. Since you can't see the coil when all done packing it with wicking material, it's 'safer'. If the lower leg went to the neg screw and you inadvertantly push the coil down when packing wicking you could get a hard short from the positive block to the negative screw. Not a nice thing.

 

[garyoa1]

Redruth,

For Gary, I can only think of two probable reasons for juice in da mouth with a BVC equipped Nautilus:

- defective Nautilus from manufacturer (highly unlikely) <although it appears BB did have a lil' topper issue of an unknown cause>
- improper owner reassembly (very possible and more than likely)

For those totally dissatisfied with their N/BVCs, I strongly suspect that a 'partial' resolution is available via a PM.

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I hear ya, Iff. But this is the 3rd tank. Using it for most of a day. However... agreed. Could be it takes time for maybe a vac leak and won't spit for a while. But my point is... flavor sux. Now it could be it doesn't make "too" much difference with a baccy flavor. But since I rarely use baccy flavors it's a real problem for me.

 

[PapaSloth]

Just be careful with that long lead, so it doesn't have a chance of causing a direct short. There was a preferred 'leg' (either the positive or negative) to use as the long leg to minimize shorting concerning. But for the live of me I can't remember whether the one is my picture was done the 'preferred' way.

For Kayfun-style attys, the center block is attached to the positive pin, and the other post is attached to the body of the mod and the battery minus. The idea here is that the bottom leg can run along the center block without shorting, so the bottom leg connects to the positive post, and the top leg connects to the negative post. For Genesys-style attys, I think it's the opposite. The bottom leg runs along the build deck and connects to the minus pin, and the top leg connects to the positive post. Basically, when the bottom leg shorts out, it should be shorting out to the same post that you have it screwed into.

 

[Iffy]

But my point is... flavor sux. Now it could be it doesn't make "too" much difference with a baccy flavor. But since I rarely use baccy flavors it's a real problem for me.

I don't use 'bakky flavs at all. JLMK if you continue to be dissatisfied...

 

[amoret]

Cool! I have 3 cats (well, they let me tend to their needs. They ARE cats! ) So now I can get presents from each of them, too!

Yes you do. Think of it as Boxing Day. With three cats you ought to score some excellent vape stuff.

I like this theory. Now, if the dog is 80 lb. and two of the cats are over 16 lb., does that mean I can count each of them twice?

Hi folks, I'm a total newbie. I've got a Vamo v5 which I'm just trying to get used to but already I think I'm going to love it.

Lost my brother in Feb due to his smoking analogs (is that the right word?). I've tried so many times to quit and failed but I'm really excited about vaping and already think I'm going to love it. Just dabbling at the moment. Working out how to use it and the technique is a bit different. First few tries I nearly choked myself.
Not very 'up' on the jargon lol but working on it, so please excuse me if I make a gaff. Look forward to getting to know new friends on here.

Hello, and welcome, Redruth! Don't worry about the jargon. There are even those of us stick-in-the-mud English fanatics that still call cigarettes cigarettes, not analogs and liquid liquid, not juice.

 

[misswish1]

Welcome to the porch, Redruth! Best place with best folks.

 

[Slots]

.in 2 (3?) years when the iStick's battery no longer holds a charge...you'll toss it out and get another (probably
in 2 (3?) years when the 2-3 18650's you're rotating in your mech mod no longer hold a charge you'll toss them out and pay for 2-3 more

You are assuming that you can still buy "drug paraphilia" when the FDA gets done deciding what's what.
I can always buy batteries, but you can always buy a bunch of iStick's for future use too (known as "backup")
I'm not anti what your saying, but personally, I always buy so that I can keep on vaping no matter what happens

Hi folks, I'm a total newbie. I've got a Vamo v5 which I'm just trying to get used to but already I think I'm going to love it.
Look forward to getting to know new friends on here.

I have Vamo's too, and I love them ... you did good.
Ask away, cause we all have "been there, done that", and will try to save you from doing some of the dumb stuff we did

Welcome to the porch, Redruth! Best place with best folks.

At least we all think so BEST FOLKS in capitals.

 

[PapaSloth]

You are assuming that you can still buy "drug paraphilia" when the FDA gets done deciding what's what.
I can always buy batteries, but you can always buy a bunch of iStick's for future use too (known as "backup")
I'm not anti what your saying, but personally, I always buy so that I can keep on vaping no matter what happens

This is a good point. It will be very hard for the government to ban or add a big sin tax to flashlight batteries. And, if they do, there's always laptop batteries.

 

[Wolfenstark]

There are different types of regulated mods (variable voltage, variable wattage, and now variable temperature). My comments mainly apply to variable wattage, where the mod IS trying to maintain the wattage you set regardless of resistance. Variable voltage and variable wattage can be made to do the same thing, but a little math is involved to adjust when the resistance of a new coil is installed in the atty. Variable temperature is new (DNA40), and will use changes in the resistance of the coil due to heat to determine the temperature of the coil, and will dynamically adjust wattage to keep the temperature of the coil within a limit that the user sets.

Since your devices are both variable wattage, it doesn't matter much whether you build to a 0.5 Ohm coil or a 1.0 Ohm coil. 30W at .5 ohms is the same power as 30W at 1 Ohm, it's just spread out a bit differently. So, the drain on the battery will be pretty much the same (excluding the efficiency of the circuitry).

Note that some variable wattage devices will only work with coils that are built above a certain resistance. That will be one of the specs on your device, and the maximum amp draw will be another spec.

Thanks PapaSloth and MIkeE3 , DavidOck and everyone

See I thought if your reg mod was v w then the circuitry took care of the voltage depending on your resistance and if it was a v v it took care of the wattage.
Starting to get the feeling people reading this will be thinking this guy has no clue

 

[FlamingoTutu]

I like this theory. Now, if the dog is 80 lb. and two of the cats are over 16 lb., does that mean I can count each of them twice?



Hello, and welcome, Redruth! Don't worry about the jargon. There are even those of us stick-in-the-mud English fanatics that still call cigarettes cigarettes, not analogs and liquid liquid, not juice.

Oh, I like that idea a lot! El Whacko is 90 pounds.

Ruth, I forgot about the analog question. I call them, as most here do, cigarettes. I tried using the work analog a couple of times when I first got here and every time I felt the uncontrollable urge to go wash out my mouth with soap.