Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 5

[herb]

About all this physician talk , the fact is the overwhelming majority of doctors have no idea about vaping.

It has not been around anywhere close to the time it takes to see what the long term health effects are . I have no doubt that it is better than smoking , thats pretty obvious but to expect most physicians to have considerable knowledge about it is totally unreasonable .

I have not had a doctor who knows about it at this point either , they are about as knowledgeable as we were when we first started out which for me was completely clueless.

I am glad they take the cautionary approach because thats what good doctors do .

 

[englishmick]

Talking of Rayon (which we were a few pages back) has anyone used it in Pro tank coils? There's really no way of thinning the tails. I did a couple of them and they seem to work OK. On the Kayfun and Lemo rayon is great. Main difference I've noticed so far is I never get a dry hit no matter what. Chain vape, really long drags. Nothing upsets the rayon.

 

[choochoogranny]

Kross, sounds like you've been to more places in TN than we have.

 

[choochoogranny]

Englishmick, that's all I make are rayon single coils whether for the PT, Nauti or the Subtanks. I do not thin the tails on any of them. Let about hang out 3/8" on both sides of the casing making "bunny tails" you can readily see through the glass tube.

 

[Iffy]

For those of us living in Florida, that 8 months of perfect weather is just around the corner! Yea!

I'll gladly skip Jan & Feb...

He was humbler.

Point is, I had to fight for my rights for better healthcare.

Bravo!

 

[kross8]

Kross, sounds like you've been to more places in TN than we have.

part of our mini bucket list,, i have flown over the lower states,, but i wanted to actually see them. Tenn. was the primary state i wanted to see. Savanna GA is pretty sweet too. we went to see my bff who i hadn't seen in 14years after she up and disappeared after a nasty divorce. (it took my son the Marine 4 years to find her). 2900+ miles @ $300(less) fast road trip. it felt funny to wake up in Alabama and have dinner in Houston.

 

[2legsshrt]

Just wait until Von Vape gets back.

Nah he lives in the Banana Belt but it's really wet there. Don't think it gets too much below 0 there. But its damp.

 

[Bea-FL]

Have been following along, it seems lately.

I made an appointment with a VA doctor since they have not felt the need to keep up with my disabilities. I mentioned that I stopped smoking a few years back, but that I still use a small amount of nic via vaping. He didn't like that. I told him that his information is wrong, probably bias and my health is much better according to my civilian doctor. He didn't seem to accept that. I lodged a complaint and said that I do not want to see him again.

I, and we, should find doctors that are "practicing" medicine and are humble about all the situations they encounter that they know less about. Anyway, the Director did not call me, so at my follow-up appointment, I found him. I had case studies prepared and I explained why BT & BP don't like this new smoking cessation technique. He was humbler.

Point is, I had to fight for my rights for better healthcare.

On another note; I see more DIY posts. I wonder if it is just the times. Less hardware coming out, but people switching to DIY and posting on it.

Nice to sit on the porch and follow football and ECF. Vaping a Strawberry Glazed Donut. Touch sweet, but aren't they supposed to be? Maybe I should switch to a Mocha flavor.

Hope all are well.

Here you go. The most comfy armchair on the porch. Love this chair!

 

[2legsshrt]

About all this physician talk , the fact is the overwhelming majority of doctors have no idea about vaping.

It has not been around anywhere close to the time it takes to see what the long term health effects are . I have no doubt that it is better than smoking , thats pretty obvious but to expect most physicians to have considerable knowledge about it is totally unreasonable .

I have not had a doctor who knows about it at this point either , they are about as knowledgeable as we were when we first started out which for me was completely clueless.

I am glad they take the cautionary approach because thats what good doctors do .

I agree I'm not even sure about formaldahyde. He said 10% of what a cigarette has but I just don't know how much if any they actually do have.

 

[DancingHeretik]

3.5 years ago when I got the stent in my shoulder, I started having mini strokes 2-3 days later. That was the only way I could describe it to the surgeon. I kid you not, he stuck his hands in his pockets, pointed his nose at the the ceiling and said, verbatim, "Doesn't sound like mini strokes to me, any other questions?" When I pressed the problem in later appoints, the reception was even worse.

I would have short term speech, coordination problems, etc., depending on how it hit me. Had massive memory problems which were devastating beyond words. There were just over 100 mini strokes in all that I logged in a "diary."

A friend spent hours every night on the computer in a sled dog racing forum while I tried to relearn how to type and construct a coherent sentence. (I am forever indebted to him. Thank you, Len. ) Spent many hours every day playing solitaire on the computer against the clock to practice retaining information. It wasn't fun, it was challenging and most importantly, it worked.

Over six months later I fled back to my local vascular surgeon who told me mini strokes are very common with that type of surgery. She was appalled and shocked, despite seeming to have a close relationship with the original surgeon, perhaps a student? She offered to send me to another specialist, said there is medication if he ordered it. I declined since I hadn't had one in a while. There have been "blips in the matrix," as I call them, since then but I'm not taking some BP drug for 6-12 months for something that may take as long to materialize.

It's not the drug I'm worried about, it's the "fillers." You take a drug from one company and all is okay. You get switched to another by your infernal insurance company and all hell breaks loose. All drug pills are not created equal, except in the eyes of the holy FDA, just like "tobacco products." Screw them. I'd rather endure a few mini strokes here and there, thank you.

As for the problems a few days ago, I'm pulling out of it. If there are more problems, it's off to the local vascular surgeon. If the stent has to be redone, I don't know what I'll do. The short version is the surgeon shouldn't have been able to get the stent in there once he realized how bad it was, but he did. He saved me from having my chest cracked and running a bypass up to my brain. His arrogance saved me from that, my friends saved me from a hell I wasn't even fully aware of at the time. Thank god the FDA can't regulate your friends.

Sounds like a few doctors that I've had. It doesn't sound like your surgeon should be allowed to speak to patients. He should be like a technician. Come in to do a job, then disappear. He didn't have to deal with it if he didn't want to or didn't feel up to it. All he had to do was refer you to someone else.

Luckily, you've got a good vascular surgeon and a really, really good friend.

I hope everything works out. Sending good vibes and wishing for the best.

Where manufacturers get off thinking women don't have a need for pockets is beyond me. I buy men's cargo pants and work shirts with a ton of pockets. One has to be at least big enough for a mod, another for a flashlight, cell phone, etc. And that's just for a short walk. That's just for a short walk. Forget those ornamental pockets that could only hold a spare drip tip.

I'll never understand this. Not in this day and age. It's about time for a change.

I think I'll start looking for cargo pants. I'm SOOO tired of carrying a purse.

 

[2legsshrt]

Well I think I'm going to do some recoiling today after the game. We are about 1 hour behind so we don't have to watch the commercials. I've got about 5 attys that really need it and about 5 that I just want to do so I can have them ready. Since I got the K5's haven't been using the STM's but I want to have them ready to go. I'll tell you this game you can really see who the referees are for. They keep missing big penalties when it is us and pulling some out of the hat for them. It sucks.

 

[clnire]

I think I read somewhere that with extreme high heat (which we don't vape at) formaldehyde can be formed. Do not quote me on that, it was some study using a machine to vape, not a human.

 

[DavidOck]

On another note; I see more DIY posts. I wonder if it is just the times. Less hardware coming out, but people switching to DIY and posting on it.

Nice to sit on the porch and follow football and ECF. Vaping a Strawberry Glazed Donut. Touch sweet, but aren't they supposed to be? Maybe I should switch to a Mocha flavor.

Think you might be onto something there, as there has been less "new" since the dooming hit. And after the big push to get all the new gear out before hand.

Uh, maybe your doughnut in one hand and the mocha in another?

Talking of Rayon (which we were a few pages back) has anyone used it in Pro Tank coils?

If PT1 types, yes. Can work fine. Don't worry about tails, too short to mess with!

I'll tell you this game you can really see who the referees are for. They keep missing big penalties when it is us and pulling some out of the hat for them. It sucks.

Didn't help much in the long run! Go Hawks!

I think I read somewhere that with extreme high heat (which we don't vape at) formaldehyde can be formed. Do not quote me on that, it was some study using a machine to vape, not a human.

That sounds vaguely familiar to me as well...

 

[DancingHeretik]

I made an appointment with a VA doctor since they have not felt the need to keep up with my disabilities. I mentioned that I stopped smoking a few years back, but that I still use a small amount of nic via vaping. He didn't like that. I told him that his information is wrong, probably bias and my health is much better according to my civilian doctor. He didn't seem to accept that. I lodged a complaint and said that I do not want to see him again.

I, and we, should find doctors that are "practicing" medicine and are humble about all the situations they encounter that they know less about. Anyway, the Director did not call me, so at my follow-up appointment, I found him. I had case studies prepared and I explained why BT & BP don't like this new smoking cessation technique. He was humbler.

Point is, I had to fight for my rights for better healthcare.

Impressive! Well done!

 

[Bea-FL]

Thank you for taking the time to explain your situation! Unfortunately, it is not a rare incident. I'd rather bruise a doctor's ego than condone a medical mistake/misdiagnosis!
Amen!

I have fired a couple of doctors in my time. What some of them seem to forget is that they work for us, in effect we hire them.

 

[2legsshrt]

YaYYYYY we win again.

 

[3mg Meniere]

Here you go. The most comfy armchair on the porch. Love this chair!

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I'm going to steal those doilies!!! I have a collection, and they would fit in nice.

 

[2legsshrt]

Yeah I eally wonder about formaldehyde I vape almost completely at 410F-415F with SS and KGD. I make all my own juice with a flavoring that I don't have to use over 3% with 3mg of nic and a 50/50 base. My lung functions have gone from showing COPD to not showing COPD. It's still there I think on my CT's but has stopped getting worse along with the nodules on my lungs have stopped growing. I still have shortness of breath when I do things but not as bad and the Symbicort has helped that, plus a lot of that is from my heart. I just can't see me stopping vaping would make things any better. At least my lungs are functioning better even with the scarring from 45 years of heavy smoking.

 

[Kenna]

Have been following along, it seems lately.

I made an appointment with a VA doctor since they have not felt the need to keep up with my disabilities. I mentioned that I stopped smoking a few years back, but that I still use a small amount of nic via vaping. He didn't like that. I told him that his information is wrong, probably bias and my health is much better according to my civilian doctor. He didn't seem to accept that. I lodged a complaint and said that I do not want to see him again.

I, and we, should find doctors that are "practicing" medicine and are humble about all the situations they encounter that they know less about. Anyway, the Director did not call me, so at my follow-up appointment, I found him. I had case studies prepared and I explained why BT & BP don't like this new smoking cessation technique. He was humbler.

Point is, I had to fight for my rights for better healthcare.

On another note; I see more DIY posts. I wonder if it is just the times. Less hardware coming out, but people switching to DIY and posting on it.

Nice to sit on the porch and follow football and ECF. Vaping a Strawberry Glazed Donut. Touch sweet, but aren't they supposed to be? Maybe I should switch to a Mocha flavor.

Hope all are well.

Good for you! I stand up for myself quite well until I'm too sick to do so. But I have a sister & several family members & friends that are nurses that step up when needed. I've not had a Dr disapprove of vaping at all. That's not a Dr I would go to. I'd probably discontinue the visit at that point & walk out. And let them know I'd prefer a Dr that is a little less inclined to personal opinion & a little more educated. If they make me mad I'd demand documentation of how the opinion was arrived at.

 

[herb]

I agree I'm not even sure about formaldahyde. He said 10% of what a cigarette has but I just don't know how much if any they actually do have.

The whole formaldehyde talk is bogus , you got to love doing dry hits all day for that to be of concern . It's unfortunate that the media like to just write stories without knowing factual information about the topic.

The main stream media is exactly the same way when they dis Trump 24/7 . 98% is complete BS.