Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part 5

[bigbells]

Here's my early adopter report on Evolv's innovative software feature called Replay. It's available for devices with dna 250C and dna 75C chips.

The goal of Replay is to enable the user to "save" the parameters of a hit, and then be able to precisely repeat it as many times as desired. I do not grasp what makes Replay different from using adjustable power settings to find the "sweet spot" and then continuing to vape at the power setting that works best. Supposedly, Replay compensates for changes in temperature and resistance in order to reproduce exactly the "saved" hit.

I can't swear that I can tell the difference between using Replay and not using Replay, although most enthusiasts would declare that statement on my part to be heretical.

I do think the feature works really well even though I don't understand what the mod does to reproduce the ideal hit. I have not heard of anybody who thinks the feature is bogus, or who thinks it doesn't work well. I'm less enthusiastic than the average Replay user but that's because so many users have gone hog wild over the feature, and I'm not quite at that level of enthusiasm.

Is it a game changer? That's too strong of a description in my opinion, but I've been using nothing else for several days, ever since I figured out how to upload the software to my one Replay-capable device.

The prevalent wisdom is that the feature works best with coil materials that can be used in either TC or Power modes, ie, SS, titanium and I can't remember the 3rd one. All I use is SS316 anyway, so I didn't have to do anything new to use Replay. Additional prevalent wisdom is that it's best to find the "ideal hit to copy" using Power mode rather than TC mode. I have no clue whether any of the preceding statements contain actual wisdom; I'm just reporting what the majority that I've read are saying.

Replay DOES prevent dry hits, as does any properly set up TC mod. One user described Replay as "TC for Dummies" or something like that.

The screen of my Lost Vape Paranormal dna 75C mod, with Replay being used to reproduce an optimal hit over and over and over and.....

 

[englishmick]

Another problem some Provari folks ran into was ... the air adjustment screw would back out ... then catch on the groves on top of the Provari making it dicey to unscrew it. I either removed those screws or always made sure to turn them in a bit on each refill.

I heard that talked about. But with the KFLs I have it seems like the air hole screws would line up with the depression in the top of the Provari rather than the outer ring where the grooves are. Maybe the screws are in different positions on different Kayfuns. I took my screws out at one time but then I got juice seeping out of the holes.

 

[3mg Meniere]

I heard that talked about. But with the KFLs I have it seems like the air hole screws would line up with the depression in the top of the Provari rather than the outer ring where the grooves are. Maybe the screws are in different positions on different Kayfuns. I took my screws out at one time but then I got juice seeping out of the holes.

I removed the air flow screws in all my KFL's, and I have minimal to no leaks.

I vape on with no nic in my KFL's. I have my cartotanks set aside, loaded with 3mg for emergencies.

 

[Kenna]

I heard that talked about. But with the KFLs I have it seems like the air hole screws would line up with the depression in the top of the Provari rather than the outer ring where the grooves are. Maybe the screws are in different positions on different Kayfuns. I took my screws out at one time but then I got juice seeping out of the holes.

Those screws do sneak out. I just checked them everytime I refilled. I think @DavidOck used a tiny dab of rubber cement to hold them in a set spot. I had one get out too far once & had to use a piece of wire to turn it so I could get the KF off the mod.

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[DancingHeretik]

Yep, been extremely quiet here on the front porch. I think all us old timers have found our vaping groove and spend most of our time in one or another of the chit-chat threads instead of 'talking vape'.

Probably mostly true. But, we're always experimenting a little bit. Or filling out our stash.

Been coming on to bump the petition (thank you DH for your support! )and that's about it.

You're welcome, Tutu! How can I resist all the cute pictures? I just wish there was something else I could do.

Working with my wife. She is giving up cigs for an operation. She thinks vaping is "fussy". I have her on a Provari 2.5 and 3 Zeus RTAs. Since all my juice is 3-5%Nic, she is vaping heavy.

I listen here mostly.

Why don't you get her or make her some higher nic juice? It might make the difference in whether or not she sticks with it after the operation.

Got my wife set up with 2 Pro Tanks and a Nautilus, all on Picos. If I don't keep an eye out she vapes them dry then complains about the nasty taste.

Maybe you should try telling her that each one is just for a few hours. Like one ProTank for morning, one ProTank for afternoon, and the Nauti for evening. Would that be enough to keep the tanks from running dry?

But in the process of turning it the screw on the KFL rotated a bit and moved the block on the deck, which caused the coil to twist and short out on the deck.

I didn't know the KFL's screw wasn't adjustable and found out the hard way. My block moved just like yours. I tried but never could get it fixed myself. Luckily I found someone who was coordinated enough to do it for me. Thank you, Kenna!

Another problem some Provari folks ran into was ... the air adjustment screw would back out ... then catch on the groves on top of the Provari making it dicey to unscrew it. I either removed those screws or always made sure to turn them in a bit on each refill.

I paid extra to get the P3 top on one of the Minis I bought. I don't use that Mini anymore because it has that problem with screws. It's been so long, I can't remember if it was only the Kayfuns. Maybe I should try again with another topper. It's my GMZ too.

I removed the air flow screws in all my KFL's, and I have minimal to no leaks.

Me too! There's no need for them. The airflow is fine without the screws.

 

[MikeE3]

My excuse for not being here is the surgery I had didn't go the way it was supposed to several months ago and trying to get back to normal is taking forever. Getting there though. Been coming on to bump the petition (thank you DH for your support! )and that's about it. Log in, fall asleep for an hour, bump, log out. Also having vape mail withdrawals.

They have a Memorial Day sale thread. Not much there. ECF Suppliers' Memorial Day Weekend Sales!

Cheers all!

@FlamingoTutu ... good to hear from you ... wishing you progress on the recovery and seeing you around more often.

 

[Alter]

I took my screws out at one time but then I got juice seeping out of the holes.

I removed the air flow screws in all my KFL's, and I have minimal to no leaks.

I took the airflow screws out of all my kayfuns that had them. Airflow was tight enough without having the screws tightening the flow even more. I even went as far as drilling the airflow wider on one kayfun but it made no real difference in the end. I just figured out through time that the shaft hole has to line up with the airflow hole or it either whistles some and/or hinders the airflow a bit.
My kayfuns never leaked without the screws but they do seep through the juice screw if left sitting, the only one that didn't seep was the genuine Russian91 that didn't have a oring and a tapered screw. All my kayfun clones seeped no matter what oring I used.
Rayon also performs much better than cotton in kayfuns. I was just discovering rayon and its amazingness toward the ending of my kayfun run that the STM caused me to shelve the kayfun along with dropping nic from 18 to 12 cause of a better delivery system. The Clapton caused another nic drop from 12 to 9 and now converting all to 7.
This got me thinkin bout slappin a build into my russian too reminisce the ol' days.

 

[englishmick]

I took the airflow screws out of all my kayfuns that had them. Airflow was tight enough without having the screws tightening the flow even more. I even went as far as drilling the airflow wider on one kayfun but it made no real difference in the end. I just figured out through time that the shaft hole has to line up with the airflow hole or it either whistles some and/or hinders the airflow a bit.
My kayfuns never leaked without the screws but they do seep through the juice screw if left sitting, the only one that didn't seep was the genuine Russian91 that didn't have a oring and a tapered screw. All my kayfun clones seeped no matter what oring I used.
Rayon also performs much better than cotton in kayfuns. I was just discovering rayon and its amazingness toward the ending of my kayfun run that the STM caused me to shelve the kayfun along with dropping nic from 18 to 12 cause of a better delivery system. The Clapton caused another nic drop from 12 to 9 and now converting all to 7.
This got me thinkin bout slappin a build into my russian too reminisce the ol' days.

I got a bag of replacement fill screws for the KFL to replace one that was damaged. The ones I got were cheesehead and the heads are slightly wider than the originals, plus they are flatter on the underside. Haven't had any leaks with them. I accidentally ordered slot head instead of cross head so they are a little harder to put in, but they work fine. I got a bag of air hole screws as well. They seem to be a little tighter, haven't had any move out on me.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I used to run seven tanks with different flavors and, so, my KFL storage Tupperware is the largest of all. Like others, I looked for a bit more air.

The STM, Squape RS and others just really seemed to work for me. I do go back to them when I feel frustrated trying to get the build just right in newer RTAs.

Ya' know, I just feel better when I know my juices have steeped. My wife doesn't really taste the flavors. Her tastebuds are shot. I am working on mixes from last Christmas and she can pick from 5-6 Brown bottles and I am happy to open bottles from the winter months. She has plenty to choose from.

I will have a coniption if she returns to smoking after the operation, though. I have been squeezing her disposable income fairly hard. She was spending $200 a month on cigs. That is a fair amount when she doesn't work...she knows she can spend that on other things.

Anyway, time is time. I have patience. Hope all are well.

 

[pwmeek]

Re: frenchfry and englishmick posts:

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Why don't you get her or make her some higher nic juice? It might make the difference in whether or not she sticks with it after the operation.

Maybe you should try telling her that each one is just for a few hours. Like one ProTank for morning, one ProTank for afternoon, and the Nauti for evening. Would that be enough to keep the tanks from running dry?<snip>

Yep; chain vaping is usually a sign of insufficient nicotine.

You could switch her to some TC mod and atomizer. (The eLeaf iStick TC40W is cheap and works well; get two so one can be charging while the other is in use. There is an Aspire/EVOLV nickel atomizer that will fit the Nautilus.) At least then all that would happen when she ran the tank dry would be that it would stop delivering vapor. (No nasty taste.) It would also make the atomizers last longer; cooking/burning those last bits of juice as the tank runs dry is a sure way to clog the wicking material and make the atomizer useless; TC rigs never get hot enough to cook the juice, even when run dry - I know this because I occasionally run my rigs dry.

 

[MikeE3]

Here's my early adopter report on Evolv's innovative software feature called Replay. It's available for devices with DNA 250C and DNA 75C chips.

The goal of Replay is to enable the user to "save" the parameters of a hit, and then be able to precisely repeat it as many times as desired. I do not grasp what makes Replay different from using adjustable power settings to find the "sweet spot" and then continuing to vape at the power setting that works best. Supposedly, Replay compensates for changes in temperature and resistance in order to reproduce exactly the "saved" hit.

I can't swear that I can tell the difference between using Replay and not using Replay, although most enthusiasts would declare that statement on my part to be heretical.

I do think the feature works really well even though I don't understand what the mod does to reproduce the ideal hit. I have not heard of anybody who thinks the feature is bogus, or who thinks it doesn't work well. I'm less enthusiastic than the average Replay user but that's because so many users have gone hog wild over the feature, and I'm not quite at that level of enthusiasm.

Is it a game changer? That's too strong of a description in my opinion, but I've been using nothing else for several days, ever since I figured out how to upload the software to my one Replay-capable device.

The prevalent wisdom is that the feature works best with coil materials that can be used in either TC or Power modes, ie, SS, titanium and I can't remember the 3rd one. All I use is SS316 anyway, so I didn't have to do anything new to use Replay. Additional prevalent wisdom is that it's best to find the "ideal hit to copy" using Power mode rather than TC mode. I have no clue whether any of the preceding statements contain actual wisdom; I'm just reporting what the majority that I've read are saying.

Replay DOES prevent dry hits, as does any properly set up TC mod. One user described Replay as "TC for Dummies" or something like that.

The screen of my Lost Vape Paranormal DNA 75C mod, with Replay being used to reproduce an optimal hit over and over and over and.....

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Good write up Dave ... I've not followed 'that' trend but the little I read when it was first available made it sound like the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[MikeE3]

the only one that didn't seep was the genuine Russian91 that didn't have a oring and a tapered screw

huh! I had 5 or 6 R91's as my 'go to' atty's for quite awhile. All of them seeped juice down the '510' connection. No matter how tight I made the deck, I'd always get a bit of juice seeping around the base screw that made connection to the mod.

 

[englishmick]

Re: frenchfry and englishmick posts:



Yep; chain vaping is usually a sign of insufficient nicotine.

You could switch her to some TC mod and atomizer. (The eLeaf iStick TC40W is cheap and works well; get two so one can be charging while the other is in use. There is an Aspire/EVOLV nickel atomizer that will fit the Nautilus.) At least then all that would happen when she ran the tank dry would be that it would stop delivering vapor. (No nasty taste.) It would also make the atomizers last longer; cooking/burning those last bits of juice as the tank runs dry is a sure way to clog the wicking material and make the atomizer useless; TC rigs never get hot enough to cook the juice, even when run dry - I know this because I occasionally run my rigs dry.

I've been thinking about changing some stuff for my wife. Trouble is she has an unusual vaping routine. For quite a few years after she quit she only had a mini PT with no nic, she took a hit once in a while when she was stressed. About a year ago we had some family stuff going on with the grandkids and she started vaping with nic. Now she vapes nonstop at home but still doesn't take it out of the house. She has a tendency to pick one up and hit it over and over, sometimes long drags, until the tank is red hot. So I set up 3 and persuaded her to alternate between them. I have to watch closely or she will vape them dry.

I have a couple of my own Picos on TC now. They are a bit flaky but do the job. I've never tried vaping one until it is dry. Ought to do that. I've got an ancient TC40 as well but never tried setting up TC on it. And I've never tried nickel, just 316 SS.

I should set something up with TC for her and see how it goes. Maybe try some higher nic level as well. I might get a Subtank or something a little less tootly for her as well. Maybe she needs something with a bit more oomph than the KFL's and so forth that I use. It's a little hard because she isn't interested in the theory. She just picks up whatever I put on her desk and hits it.

 

[DancingHeretik]

I've been thinking about changing some stuff for my wife. Trouble is she has an unusual vaping routine. For quite a few years after she quit she only had a mini PT with no nic, she took a hit once in a while when she was stressed. About a year ago we had some family stuff going on with the grandkids and she started vaping with nic. Now she vapes nonstop at home but still doesn't take it out of the house. She has a tendency to pick one up and hit it over and over, sometimes long drags, until the tank is red hot. So I set up 3 and persuaded her to alternate between them. I have to watch closely or she will vape them dry.

I have a couple of my own Picos on TC now. They are a bit flaky but do the job. I've never tried vaping one until it is dry. Ought to do that. I've got an ancient TC40 as well but never tried setting up TC on it. And I've never tried nickel, just 316 SS.

I should set something up with TC for her and see how it goes. Maybe try some higher nic level as well. I might get a Subtank or something a little less tootly for her as well. Maybe she needs something with a bit more oomph than the KFL's and so forth that I use. It's a little hard because she isn't interested in the theory. She just picks up whatever I put on her desk and hits it.

I think you're right. Three experiments to try: TC, higher nic, or a Subtank (with the current nic level).

Let us know how it goes. I'm curious.

 

[DavidOck]

Working with my wife. She is giving up cigs for an operation. She thinks vaping is "fussy". I have her on a Provari 2.5 and 3 Zeus RTAs. Since all my juice is 3-5%Nic, she is vaping heavy.

I listen here mostly.

I agree with some others, higher nic may do the trick!

Those screws do sneak out. I just checked them everytime I refilled. I think @DavidOck used a tiny dab of rubber cement to hold them in a set spot. I had one get out too far once & had to use a piece of wire to turn it so I could get the KF off the mod.

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Yep, good memory. Many of the air adjust screws can back out, The rubber cement will prevent that and still let you easily remove it if desired. (For a deep clean, for example.)

Since it's vibration that makes it back out, turning it upside down and gently tapping for a while can also sometimes cause it to go back in

 

[Kenna]

Probably mostly true. But, we're always experimenting a little bit. Or filling out our stash.

You're welcome, Tutu! How can I resist all the cute pictures? I just wish there was something else I could do.

Why don't you get her or make her some higher nic juice? It might make the difference in whether or not she sticks with it after the operation.

Maybe you should try telling her that each one is just for a few hours. Like one ProTank for morning, one ProTank for afternoon, and the Nauti for evening. Would that be enough to keep the tanks from running dry?

I didn't know the KFL's screw wasn't adjustable and found out the hard way. My block moved just like yours. I tried but never could get it fixed myself. Luckily I found someone who was coordinated enough to do it for me. Thank you, Kenna!

I paid extra to get the P3 top on one of the Minis I bought. I don't use that Mini anymore because it has that problem with screws. It's been so long, I can't remember if it was only the Kayfuns. Maybe I should try again with another topper. It's my GMZ too.

Me too! There's no need for them. The airflow is fine without the screws.

Lol! I had tools!

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[Kenna]

I've been thinking about changing some stuff for my wife. Trouble is she has an unusual vaping routine. For quite a few years after she quit she only had a mini PT with no nic, she took a hit once in a while when she was stressed. About a year ago we had some family stuff going on with the grandkids and she started vaping with nic. Now she vapes nonstop at home but still doesn't take it out of the house. She has a tendency to pick one up and hit it over and over, sometimes long drags, until the tank is red hot. So I set up 3 and persuaded her to alternate between them. I have to watch closely or she will vape them dry.

I have a couple of my own Picos on TC now. They are a bit flaky but do the job. I've never tried vaping one until it is dry. Ought to do that. I've got an ancient TC40 as well but never tried setting up TC on it. And I've never tried nickel, just 316 SS.

I should set something up with TC for her and see how it goes. Maybe try some higher nic level as well. I might get a Subtank or something a little less tootly for her as well. Maybe she needs something with a bit more oomph than the KFL's and so forth that I use. It's a little hard because she isn't interested in the theory. She just picks up whatever I put on her desk and hits it.

Try a KF5. Air is adjustable from restricted to airy (4 settings). And go for the higher nic, too. Especially if she's chain vaping. Put the clear M tank on the KF so she can see the juice level all the way to the bottom.
This is the M tank on a KFL+v2. You can see all the way to the bottom.

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[MikeE3]

Try a KF5. Air is adjustable from restricted to airy (4 settings). And go for the higher nic, too. Especially if she's chain vaping. Put the clear M tank on the KF so she can see the juice level all the way to the bottom.
This is the M tank on a KFL+v2. You can see all the way to the bottom.

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Never saw a 'white' KFL .... nice match to your Ohmwrecker (I think that may be it' name, not sure).

 

[3mg Meniere]

Never saw a 'white' KFL .... nice match to your Ohmwrecker (I think that may be it' name, not sure).

I have one. The paint peels, though.

 

[englishmick]

I think you're right. Three experiments to try: TC, higher nic, or a Subtank (with the current nic level).

Let us know how it goes. I'm curious.

Looked up the Subtank Mini. Hard to find but they have them on FT for $21. Never used one myself. I get the impression they have more airflow than a KFL or Nautilus. Do you know how they compare to a Lemo for airflow.