Yep that is a problem. When I used to use flavors like that I had an extra bottle of VG. I can't remember if I used 20% flavor 20% VG then the mix and the nic. Since the nic was 50/50 also.
What pg/vg level are you using? Pg carries more flavor & more throat hit (burning). Vg provides more of the cloud, but will mute flavor & throat hit. Nic does have a slight flavor, & a little throat hit, also. So higher nic, or higher pg = more throat hit. You could go higher nic & higher vg to get off the cigs. If you diy'd you could adjust all of this to suit yourself & have a higher nic & vg, lower pg, & adjust your flavorings to compensate for using more vg to lower the throat hit. If buying juice try a 18mg, 20 pg/80vg juice in your favorite flavors. That might do it for you. I vape 50/50 usually. The one juice I still buy (only because I haven't found a good clone recipe for it), is a 70pg/30 blend bourbon barrel steeped juice & it has a stronger throat hit. I'm not big on throat hit, I want more flavor, but this juice tastes soooo gooood, I'm willing to handle the TH.
...errrr...wallets...Welcome Vic and Fitz!
Vic, I am an RY4 lover myself. You might try a small bottle of Flavor Art RY4 flavoring or Hangsen. Mix about 5-7% flavoring in your base and try it. Mix a small amount, let it steep 24 hrs, and taste. Adjust your amount of flavor for your next batch if needed. The Flavor Apprentice (TFA) also makes a decent RY4 flavor called RY4 Double. You can add more caramel and/or vanilla to any of these if you feel it would be better.
Fitz, don't sweat the ones you smoke. You will get there. Lots of good advice already given.
Hope you both stick around. Such a great group of people on both porches, and we always like new victims - er, friends[emoji38][emoji38]
And you don't need to buy a kit to get started. Imo, they are over priced & you'll end up not using some of the stuff in them.
Yes. That is known here as PSS juice. (Patooie-Spit-Spit). I ordered one once that tasted just like Jergens Lotion smells. Stunk up everuthing it touched. Cleaned my atty, poured the juice down the sink, & cleaned the bottle intending to keep the bottle. Nope, the smell wouldn't come out of the bottle. Threw the capped bottle into the trash d had to carry the trash out & clean the sink & drain to get rid of the smell. The cleaning finally got the smell off of my hands, too. I'm more cautious shopping in the clearance juice sections online now.
Hey, I've seen you on the ProVari threads! Welcome to the Old Folks threads!
The fun playing with new gear definitely helps to keep me interested. I wonder if that occasional cigarette is partly just to make sure. Or, maybe a little tiny bit of deep down rebellion. Either way, I'm sure you'll eventually just get tired of them and not bother anymore.
Ooooh, that's too much money to spend on juice. Definitely need to DIY.
The best thing about DIY is having juice that's vapable! A lot of the junk out there is really nasty.
I think I got all mine at RTS vapes. Since I make 100ml at a time I got a 60ml syringe really comes in handy no needle on it but you can get all your blunt tip needles there too.
I was leary of it, too, but determined to cut my costs. About the only thing I really enjoy vaping is creamy, custardy, cakey flavors. Once I accepted that was where I was gonna be, it made the idea of diy easier. Same with building coils, I was tired of buying coils & knew I could eliminate that expense, & scratch juice & coils off my monthly shopping list. Once the start up expense is over it's all gravy after that. Now I buy one 90 ml bottle of one juice every 3 months for under $60. That's it except for future proofing with more devices, nic, pg/vg & flavors. Devices & nic take priority since that's what will be harder to get.DIY, my next thing to try. I have a fear of making my own though, not sure why.
This is where I get uneasy I guess. I'd like to get the pre mixed nic juice, but I vape 65/35 pg/vg for the TH because my nic level is 3mg. Guess I would have to add in some pg.
For simplicity, you are going to make 30ml of juice with 100mg/ml nic in PG with flavors in PG at 65/35. Flavor is 20%. The recipe would be:
