Older Folks and Vaping Front Porch - Part Four

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Debadoo

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I can't remember the last time I totally disassembled one.
I can.....wasn't it a month or so ago you put up a pic of all of em taken apart on some paper towels??? :lol: or was that an old pic?

the mood I'm in right now, I'd just wanna smack him and I'd really rather not piss off Classy or Robin today...
They'd probably applaud you (at least privately) but sorry yur in a crappy mood
 

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They'd probably applaud you (at least privately) but sorry yur in a crappy mood

LOL!!! Not with the particular usage of vocabulary that was rattlin' around in my head... I went straight back to shipboard days! And with that in mind, I think it best to not raise the ire of our most beloved staff members. ;)

Besides, the post would probably end up rather unreadable... it'd be like this:
You ........ ........., what ......... ....... ......... the ....... was .......... up ...... ...?!? :lol: :evil: :lol:
 

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*Note to Self* Stay on Kaz's good side. :danger:

Kaz, darlin', do you need anything? :lol:

LOL!! I'm good, Darlin'... it takes quite a bit to actually push me over the edge. I normally try to be nice to people and there are very few things that really push my buttons. It's just that the guy in question has rather questionable logic, in my eyes, and I'd probably better just stay out of it... :)
 

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I bought some tiny RDAs for testing juice. They have itty bitty airholes. I only own 1 rda, so I know nothing about the proper size to drill the holes. I'm pretty much a tootle puffer and like a medium draw. Not airy, not tight.

Any advice on drill bit size?
 

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I haz a sad...

This, in the New Members Forum:

Aspire Nautilus Mini burnt taste

I don't think his 'time came yet' for switching and perhaps his a short fused person. Seems he was looking for a simple switch to vaping that would be just like smoking. You done good w/ your reply.

I can.....wasn't it a month or so ago you put up a pic of all of em taken apart on some paper towels??? :lol: or was that an old pic?

Oh ... that picture was all the clearance / closeout stuff I bought for the vape-pocolypse. Took 'em all apart, cleaned them, then back into their boxes.
 

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I bought some tiny RDAs for testing juice. They have itty bitty airholes. I only own 1 RDA, so I know nothing about the proper size to drill the holes. I'm pretty much a tootle puffer and like a medium draw. Not airy, not tight.

Any advice on drill bit size?

What RDAs do you have, Debi?
 

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I'm hoping you were able to watch the YouTube vid I posted and that it made sense. I'm feeling like we're making this more complicated than it needs to be. Here's my take - after which I'll shut up! :)

1. What is required to vape.
A. Mod (also called a battery. I'm going to call it a mod.)
B. Atomizer (also called a tank)
C. Coil
D. E-juice

2. Mods
A. Mods are "regulated" or "unregulated." Regulated mods have built-in safety mechanisms. So do some unregulated mods, but we're going to ignore those, for now.
B. Regulated mods are either "static" power or "variable" power. Some static mods, like the one you have, are variable, but they don't really let the user control the power. We're going to ignore those, for now.
C. Variable mods (these are all regulated) can vary the volts, the watts, or both. Variable wattage (VW) and variable voltage (VV) are similar, from a user's perspective. However, most new vapers find variable wattage (VW) easier to work with. We're going to focus on VW mods.
D. Some mods use an onboard battery - the battery is built in to the mod. These are charged through a USB or equivalent. Other mods use a separate battery that gets charged in the mod, through a USB or outside of the mod, on a charger. There are pros and cons to each. They don't matter, right now.

3. Atomizers, or tanks, hold juice and a coil. When the mod is fired, the coil heats up the juice and produces vapor.
A. There are many atomizers. Some are made from Pyrex, others from plastic, and others from metal.
B. Atomizers come in various sizes. This is personal preference. Some folks want a large tank so they don't have to fill it as often; other folks prefer a smaller tank.
C. Atomizers use pre-made coils, also called "stock coils," or use coils that you have to build yourself. We're focusing on stock coils, because they are easiest.

4. Coils
A. Coils are basically one or more wires with wicking to hold juice. The wires are coiled - hence, the name- in various sizes and with various kinds of wire.
B. The longer the wire, the higher the resistance.
C. Resistance is measured in ohms. I'm not going to try to explain that, now.
D. Coil resistance is typically referred to as sub ohm (resistance under 1 ohm) or higher ohm (resistance is between 1.0 and 2.0 ohms).
E. The most relevant distinctions between sub ohm and higher ohm coils are these:
i. Sub ohm coils require more power to heat up and produce vapor.
ii. Sub ohm coils produce more vapor (clouds).
iii. Sub ohm coils lend themselves to "direct lung" vaping.
iv. Higher ohm coils require less power, produce smaller clouds, and lend themselves to "mouth to lung" vaping.
v. Many people think higher ohm coils produce better flavor. This is a matter of opinion; it is personal preference.

This post is too long, already. I'm going to start another one :).
 

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Two of those $9.95 KFV4's are my main vapes. I like them better than my 2 original Svoe KFV4's. The juice control ring on the clones is smooth and easy to work when filling. I can open/close the ring and refill w/o taking the atty off the PV. The Svoe's, OTOH, are so snug I must remove them from the PV and hold on good to the ring and atty when turning the juice ring.

I've gotten past them having a bajillion parts ... I can't remember the last time I totally disassembled one. I just open it to change the wick and/or coil and that's as easy as a Kayfun-Lite. I prefer the V4 over the Lite because I can have a bit more airflow with it compared to the Lite.

Yeah, most of us that got into Kayfun 4 disassembly were O-ring experimenters trying to find the perfect seal for vacuum and juice leaks. I still have a 20 pack of 1.5mm x 12mm O-rings from www.oringsandmore.com. It only took a few to fix the one I was using.

The one I tossed had an issue with locked threads that an allen wrench and duct tape wouldn't take apart. Rather than wrestle with it I just salvaged the parts I might need later and tossed the rest in the trash.

My daily vape is generally my EHPro Kayfun 3.1. It's about 3 years old and I need to find a backup for it. It's been disassembled over and over and the threads will eventually gall. I have a number of good tanks, but the KF 3.1 is my favorite just 'cause it's easy to deal with and has just the right airflow for a 10w tootle puffer.
 

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I bought some tiny RDAs for testing juice. They have itty bitty airholes. I only own 1 RDA, so I know nothing about the proper size to drill the holes. I'm pretty much a tootle puffer and like a medium draw. Not air, not tight.

Any advice on drill bit size?
a lot of folks drill the rm2 out to 1/16" to get a bit more air from it, but it's nickel plated brass, so very easy to drill. Some don't even use the drill, just the bit. But if yours is made of something harder, that might be difficult
 

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a lot of folks drill the rm2 out to 1/16" to get a bit more air from it, but it's nickel plated brass, so very easy to drill. Some don't even use the drill, just the bit. But if yours is made of something harder, that might be difficult

Ok, that is what I had started with and just used the bit. It's not bad. Probably just stick with that.
 

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It's almost embarrassing. Like I said, they are just little cheapies for testing DIY juices.
$2.48 RDA Mini Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer (1.0mL) - 2.4Ω / red / 1*airhole at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

Yep, I've thought about picking up a couple of those... so don't be embarrassed. I think they'd be PERFECT for flavor testing! As for how much to drill it out, I'd suggest finding what bit fits the hole and then going one size larger... then vape it. Continue stepping up in bit size until it's where you are happy with it. The key is that you can always make the hole larger... but you can't ever make it smaller. ;)
 

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    Well that's odd. I ordered a mod (and a tank that I didn't need, but gotta get high enough for free shipping, right?:D) over the weekend, and the preshipment info showing on My USPS dashboard says it is coming from a pet and aquarium supply store.:confused: That's not who I remember ordering from.o_O
     

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    Well that's odd. I ordered a mod (and a tank that I didn't need, but gotta get high enough for free shipping, right?:D) over the weekend, and the preshipment info showing on My USPS dashboard says it is coming from a pet and aquarium supply store.:confused: That's not who I remember ordering from.o_O
    :lol: Newp the days of blue fish foam in atties are long gone (I hope)
     

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    Chapter 2!

    You said that you would like to have a setup that:
    - is easy to use
    - is safe
    - produces good flavor
    - does not require sub ohm coils

    To achieve these objectives, you need:
    - a mod that allows for charging via USB
    - a mod that allows for fine tuning - a variable wattage mod
    - a tank that can use stock coils, at 1 ohm or higher
    - coils

    Mod suggestions: eLeaf iStick TC 40; Kanger Tech Subox; iTaste MVP. All of these meet the objectives listed. There are others, but these have consistently good reviews and are readily available.

    Tank suggestions: Aspire Nautilus Mini with 1.6 or 1.8 coils; Kanger Subtank Mini with 1.5 coils. Both of these tanks produce good flavor and coils are readily available. The Kanger tank also has a deck that allows you to build coils, if you ever want to.

    And finally ... All coils come with recommended power ranges. The coils I suggested work best between 8 watts and 14 watts. The suggested mods allow you to adjust watts with a single click of a button. It's very easy to fine tune your vape. We always suggest that you start low and work your way up in wattage. This allows the coil a chance to break in, and let's you determine what power makes your juice taste best.

    I hope this helps!
     
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    Yep, I've thought about picking up a couple of those... so don't be embarrassed. I think they'd be PERFECT for flavor testing! As for how much to drill it out, I'd suggest finding what bit fits the hole and then going one size larger... then vape it. Continue stepping up in bit size until it's where you are happy with it. The key is that you can always make the hole larger... but you can't ever make it smaller. ;)
    I received 3 today. Decided to throw one on my last cart as well. I usually test out 3-5 flavors at a time. I think they are going to be great :)
     
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