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[glassgal]

Don't forget, GG, we don't all have those beautiful violet/blue woods you ordered. I'm in line for a natural wood, which I think would look very good with gold or brass. What do you think?

I do defer creative decisions to the creative types like GG and pdib - and my GF, the kitchen genious.

What do I think? I think that pdib should get a plating kit and offer plating too, or contract out for the service. I saw a video of a guy who bought a plating kit and did it himself, and it was really fast and gorgeous!!! But I'm not bringing it up again til he's done with mine!!!

THEN, he can take 6 months vacation...

There are several gold plating services where you can sent your part to get plated for you, it's not that expensive actually. But what would make more sense is that one person buys a kit and everyone chips in a bit for the cost of the kit, and he plates them all at once. Then, he can keep the kit for all his own stuff for free.

That would still make it cheaper than paying for plating, and the plater only needs to clean our parts before doing it. Then stuff each one back in the shipping bubblepack they came in, and stuff it back in the prepaid shipping envelope and throw in mailbox, and we all get plated parts. Am I getting ahead of myself again?

As for what I think of gold or brass top with copper or aluminum band? I don't like it... the brass would look better maybe, but still not great. Gold plated is way too GOLD to look right with brushed copper or aluminum. If the copper or aluminum band already had something gold or brass with it side by side, then it would pull it together, but to have them widely separated like that looks odd.

IF you want to plate tho... I think you have to start with copper. Plating aluminum has a bunch of issues. The bad thing is, there are no copper toppers (for good reason, copper is toxic if ingested), while all the stainless toppers would work with aluminum.

 

[glassgal]

Oh and Monkey takes tobacco and extracts the nic from it - it is called NEMP (naturally extracted monkey poo). Since the FDA does not have the power to ban tobacco, i think we have little to worry about.

As for banning my mod because it was not on the market in 2007 - good luck with that! Too many have been sold in the intervening time and if you think i am going to turn my mods in voluntarily, you're delusional! So better ban batteries and wire and altoids boxes and cotton wool.

Not happening.

T

Do you know what he's extracting it with? Is it hexane or CO2 extraction?

 

[Treebeard]

Drilling SS takes a while. I got a BF Cyclone and the slot was nice and centered on the center pin. I dulled 5 bits just drilling a lower drain hole, I cannot image how many I'd go through drilling the whole pin. I also got TF version and the slot was not centered, which made it painful to take out and drill.

I did dremel a grove in my Patriot center pin and that worked great.

I cut a groove in the insulator of my AFC Cyclone and it squonks like a boss and drains well. Unfortunately, I still prefer the regular bf Cyclone. The AFC has been relegated to the vape drawer.

 

[2pak2zero]

I cut a groove in the insulator of my AFC Cyclone and it squonks like a boss and drains well. Unfortunately, I still prefer the regular bf Cyclone. The AFC has been relegated to the vape drawer.

Did you drill out the air holes or are they good stock.


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[supertrunker]

Copper is too soft. It exhibits good antimicrobial properties and the liver in an adult is quite capable of dealing with it, even if copper pipes supply your drinking water.

HRH likes copper so that is what she'll get. Too bad mercury isn't a solid at room temperature!

T

 

[supertrunker]

Do you know what he's extracting it with? Is it hexane or CO2 extraction?

i imagine he's putting all his fiction books on a flower press with a tube and a glass beaker underneath.

T

 

[Treebeard]

Did you drill out the air holes or are they good stock.


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Stock air hole is perfect for me. I don't like an airy vape.

 

[glassgal]

i imagine he's putting all his fiction books on a flower press with a tube and a glass beaker underneath.

T

If he's doing it with a tube and a beaker, that would assume steam distillation. The problem with nicotine extraction is getting the nicotine. You can extract tobacco flavor all day long, but at best you would get a 3-5% nicotine concentration in it. This is fine if you want to vape the nic in tobacco flavor, but useless if you want the nicotine for blending in PG/VG. I know nothing about circuits and electricity and would love to learn. There's very little anyone can teach me about plant extraction.

As for copper toxicity... this is from the NILM: Copper poisoning: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia

Copper pipes can be dangerous. You can google yourself, but from a quick google: http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/water/factsheet/com/copper.html

"Copper works its way into the water by dissolving from copper pipes in the household plumbing. The longer the water has stood idle in the pipes, the more copper it is likely to have absorbed. (Newer homes with copper pipes may be more likely to have a problem. Over time, a coating forms on the inside of the pipes and can insulate the water from the copper in the pipes. In newer homes, this coating has not yet had a chance to develop.) Thus, anytime the water has not been used for more than six hours-overnight, for example, or during the day when people have been gone to work or school-it should be cleared from the pipes before being used for drinking or cooking.

This can be achieved by letting the cold water faucet run until you can feel the water getting colder-usually 30 to 60 seconds. This must be done before taking drinking water from any faucet in the house.

In addition, hot water dissolves copper more quickly than cold water; as a result, water to be used for drinking or cooking should not be drawn from the hot water tap. If you need hot water for cooking or drinking, take water from the cold tap and heat it. It is especially important not to use the hot water for making baby formula."

It's only free copper that's dangerous. Run your pipes for a while, and you've gotten rid of the free copper. It's NOT dangerous as decoration, jewelry, or a band around an APV you don't suck on. But you do suck on atomizers and drip tips.

Yes, they made pipes out of copper, and in some places still do. They used to make pipes out of lead back in Roman days, some historians blame the fall of Rome on the lead pipes causing mass insanity. Google 'lead the fall of Rome'. None of this stuff is mysterious or fiction.

 

[pdib]

I just googled and found copper is harder than aluminum. (sure there are alloys, but pure strains) I wanted to be sure before I put my foot in my mouth; because I'm finding the aluminum to be much softer and easier to work with than the copper.

Also, Fyi, on the RM2: it is plated/chromed. Under the chrome is a layer of . . . . . .. . COPPER!!!!


yip, it's true

 

[pdib]

Glassgal. Xobeloot does tobacco extracts for flavor. He doesn't rely on it for the nic. content. (and btw, it's the best dam baccy I've ever tasted . . . .. by a long shot)

 

[glassgal]

I just googled and found copper is harder than aluminum. (sure there are alloys, but pure strains) I wanted to be sure before I put my foot in my mouth; because I'm finding the aluminum to be much softer and easier to work with than the copper.

Also, Fyi, on the RM2: it is plated/chromed. Under the chrome is a layer of . . . . . .. . COPPER!!!!


yip, it's true

That's why I won't buy plated atomizers... a nicked interior, or broken by drilling exposes the copper. Then you are soaking that exposed copper in 2 of the finest extraction fluids we know of, PG and VG (the others are liquid nitrogen and alcohol). Then you inhale it.

Copper is toxic when ingested in relatively small quantity. It has been linked to liver, kidney, testicular cancer, brain damage and alzheimers. From Wiki: Copper toxicity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Acute symptoms of copper poisoning by ingestion include vomiting, hematemesis (vomiting of blood), hypotension (low blood pressure), melena (black "tarry" feces), coma, jaundice (yellowish pigmentation of the skin), and gastrointestinal distress.[2] Individuals with glucose-6-phosphate deficiency may be at increased risk of hematologic effects of copper.[2] Hemolytic anemia resulting from the treatment of burns with copper compounds is infrequent.[2]

Chronic (long-term) effects of copper exposure can damage the liver and kidneys.[3] Mammals have efficient mechanisms to regulate copper stores such that they are generally protected from excess dietary copper levels.[3]

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) in drinking water is 1.3 milligrams per liter.[2][4] The MCL for copper is based on the expectation that a lifetime of consuming copper in water at this level is without adverse effect (gastrointestinal). The USEPA lists evidence that copper causes testicular cancer as "most adequate" according to the latest research at Sanford-Burnham Medical Research Institute.[5] The Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has set a limit of 0.1 mg/m3 for copper fumes (vapor generated from heating copper) and 1 mg/m3 for copper dusts (fine metallic copper particles) and mists (aerosol of soluble copper) in workroom air during an eight-hour work shift, 40-hour work week.[6]

Again, it's FINE in jewelry, and actually good for doorknobs, it does have bactericidal and fungicidal properties. We can and do process small amounts. But small amounts is not sucking on it or smoking it after seeping. I thought everyone was aware of the risks, and really couldn't understand why people use plated atomizers, but if you didn't know, google for yourself. That's why I'm obsessive about GOOD stainless steel and don't like mystery metal or plated anything for putting pg or vg in.

 

[glassgal]

Glassgal. Xobeloot does tobacco extracts for flavor. He doesn't rely on it for the nic. content. (and btw, it's the best dam baccy I've ever tasted . . . .. by a long shot)

That was actually the very first things I ever did when I started vaping... the day I got my MVP2 I was making a tobacco distillation. A friend ran a nicotine test, and said it was less than 5%. Mine's dead on to the RYO tobacco I used for scent and flavor, but I haven't been blending with it much because it gunks coils no matter how much filtering I do. And I want to figure out coils, or at least get faster at wrapping them, before I go back to blending tobaccos again. That is, I can make coils, I haven't figured out my 'perfect' spot yet. But I make a coffee that is almost perfectly like my favorite latte (I like sweet and light coffee), and I have a dead on pink lemonade .

 

[X-Puppy]

+1 on the NEMP - it's the poo. I can't put it down. It's that good!

 

[glassgal]

+1 on the NEMP - it's the poo. I can't put it down. It's that good!

Will trade Pink Lemonade for NEMP...

Oh!!! The plating I was talking about was 24K gold plating... not chrome or anything else... on the outside of the Dibi. And I shouldn't say that plating is bad, it's fine if not damaged or scratched where it contacts juice (I wouldn't vape out of something that's been plated and drilled tho). I'd love to have a gold plated Dibi collar... AND, you can gold plate stainless steel just fine, so can gold plate your stainless RBA too.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Future prison exchange "Hey what you in for?", "5 to 7 for dealing nic juice"

 

[MasterofNone]

Mmm country time pink lemonade

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Will trade Pink Lemonade for NEMP...

Yeah it's great stuff, I'm rationing mine, one 6ml bottle each week. with the Monkey not able to make any for about year, I doubt you'll find anybody willing to part with it.

Wait, what Dibi group are you in?

 

[glassgal]

Yeah it's great stuff, I'm rationing mine, one 6ml bottle each week. with the Monkey not able to make any for about year, I doubt you'll find anybody willing to part with it.

Wait, what Dibi group are you in?

I'm in Group 4. My pink lemonade isn't made with pink lemons (we actually grow pink lemons in Florida, I have a pink lemon tree in my yard, but pink lemons aren't commercially sold here because the trees are terrible fruit bearers.. you're lucky to get a bucket a year). The pink comes from Pomegranate flavor, but it tastes just like fresh squeezed pink lemonade.

 

[ukeman]

hmmm Pink Lemonade? (eyebrows raised) said the lech? jk

i never got into tobacco flavors, but fruit juices are up my alley.

but why not trade some recipes here? if P'dibbers have the time…

I make a mean Uncle Uke's Lychee juice… for those colorful (or blond) DIBI's

 

[IMEDICx90]

I have a grandmaster clone that's spot on and a peanut butter coffee vape


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