Post 8-8-16 Stock Up

[sparkky1]

Without a doubt, home brewers, without sale to others, will be legal. Getting the supplies to do so however, may be a different story. the FDA will shut down the supply if they wish to go after the home brewer.

JMHO

Not if the product has been sold before 8/8/2016, they legally have two years to keep selling that product as of now, not to mention the said products sole intent of use, look up bullet coffee
Now what your state does may become a different story ..................

 

[sparkky1]

Actually the caps were required on July 26th and have nothing to do with the FDA. It was from the Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act of 2015. It did however have a dirty trick in it that said anything bottled before the 26th was fine and could be sold for months, then a couple days before they said "Never mind, all bottles sold from 26th on have to have child resistant caps."

What "cops" are going into peoples houses and charging them for non conforming caps and fining them $10,000 ?

 

[Haktuspit]

What "cops" are going into peoples houses and charging them for non conforming caps and fining them $10,000 ?

Sorry this has nothing to do with the $10,000 fine either and again I'm pretty sure only applies to retailers. But nearly every vendor is in compliance already, or there is most likely fines. I don't know everything about it, but I do know it is most certainly real and being adhered to.

Text - S.142 - 114th Congress (2015-2016): Child Nicotine Poisoning Prevention Act of 2015

 

[smokin95]

Only thing I need is VG and PG. They should still be available correct?

 

[sparkky1]

Only thing I need is VG and PG. They should still be available correct?

PG/VG / flavoring is not going anywhere, there intended use is far to broad ......................

 

[HazyShades]

Only thing I need is VG and PG. They should still be available correct?

Yes, unless making home made soap becomes illegal.
Then again, they add strychnine to morning glory seeds so you never know.
Some bureaucrat might decide a toxin must be added to PG/VG
in order to prevent it being vapeable.

 

[leftyandsparky]

Yes, unless making home made soap becomes illegal.
Then again, they add strychnine to morning glory seeds so you never know.
Some bureaucrat might decide a toxin must be added to PG/VG
in order to prevent it being vapeable.

Can't with the vg because its in alot food.

 

[Jdurand]

Not if the product has been sold before 8/8/2016, they legally have two years to keep selling that product as of now, not to mention the said products sole intent of use, look up bullet coffee
Now what your state does may become a different story ..................

Sparkky, you are usually right on track, but you lost me on this one. Seems we may be saying the same thing differently.

 

[Jdurand]

Yes, unless making home made soap becomes illegal.
Then again, they add strychnine to morning glory seeds so you never know.
Some bureaucrat might decide a toxin must be added to PG/VG
in order to prevent it being vapeable.

Wouldn't that be the ultimate irony....making a new poison to make sure we go back to the old poison.

I don't see the American people putting up with that, even rubbing alcohol only tastes bad due to the additive, but it isn't poisoned.

 

[ENAUD]

Wouldn't that be the ultimate irony....making a new poison to make sure we go back to the old poison.

I don't see the American people putting up with that, even rubbing alcohol only tastes bad due to the additive, but it isn't poisoned.

Rubbing alcohol is not safe to drink, it is an entirely different chemical than ethanol.

 

[HazyShades]

Can't with the vg because its in alot food.

Ah, but that's the VG they sell to food manufacturer's like Nabisco, Kraft-Heinz, et al.
not the stuff they sell to DIY soap suppliers.
The perfect example is how the Coca Cola Company imports
approximately 100 metric tons of dried **** leaf yearly which they "detoxify"
and extract flavors for their poisonous soft drink from..

PG is also in a lot of meds and cosmetics which require the manufacturers to
have special licenses to make.

 

[bnrkwest]

Yes, unless making home made soap becomes illegal.
Then again, they add strychnine to morning glory seeds so you never know.
Some bureaucrat might decide a toxin must be added to PG/VG
in order to prevent it being vapeable.

You can make your own soap but if you sell it it comes under the Cosmetics act.

 

[bnrkwest]

Ah, but that's the VG they sell to food manufacturer's like Nabisco, Kraft-Heinz, et al.
not the stuff they sell to DIY soap suppliers.
The perfect example is how the Coca Cola Company imports
approximately 100 metric tons of dried **** leaf yearly which they "detoxify"
and extract flavors for their poisonous soft drink from..

PG is also in a lot of meds and cosmetics which require the manufacturers to
have special licenses to make.

PG is in tooth paste and mouth wash, etc VG in cookies, etc.

 

[bnrkwest]

Well I hope everyone is stocked up long term so we can avoid all the craziness

 

[mattiem]

Some bureaucrat might decide a toxin must be added to PG/VG
in order to prevent it being vapeable.

And this is the main reason I bought 2 more gallons of VG. This thought has crossed my mind and I have mentioned it but always get the reply....but it is used in lots of other things so they couldn't possibly add anything to it to make it taste bad. I don't trust any of 'the powers that be' and wouldn't put anything past them. Yes. I AM that paranoid and my peace of mind is worth spending a little extra now while I know my VG is still good to vape.

 

[HazyShades]

PG is in tooth paste and mouth wash, etc VG in cookies, etc.

Yes but again, see my post above re Coca Cola.
There are different sets of rules for different people and/or the rules are applied selectively.
Usually tax money is an important variable which affects how and when the rules are applied and to whom.
I'll give you another example; Parakeet seed. It contains another
unmentionable.

 

[HazyShades]

And this is the main reason I bought 2 more gallons of VG. This thought has crossed my mind and I have mentioned it but always get the reply....but it is used in lots of other things so they couldn't possibly add anything to it to make it taste bad. I don't trust any of 'the powers that be' and wouldn't put anything past them. Yes. I AM that paranoid and my peace of mind is worth spending a little extra now while I know my VG is still good to vape.

Exactly. I noticed the other night when I made 520 ml of juice that I'm running low on VG
and the PG will only last for another 2 or 3 extractions. So I'm in the market for a couple more gallons of each.

Regards,
Hazy

 

[Iron Molly]

VG is used in candy making and fancy cake icings. So I imagine food-grade will be available indefinitely.

Edited to add: By hobbyists, not just manufacturers.

 

[Jdurand]

Unless literally millions of smokers/vapers turn to DIY, I think maybe we are taking the paranoia to a whole new level here. I really doubt the government is going to start to alter every day items like PG and VG to shut down vaping.

 

[leftyandsparky]

Ah, but that's the VG they sell to food manufacturer's like Nabisco, Kraft-Heinz, et al.
not the stuff they sell to DIY soap suppliers.
The perfect example is how the Coca Cola Company imports
approximately 100 metric tons of dried **** leaf yearly which they "detoxify"
and extract flavors for their poisonous soft drink from..

PG is also in a lot of meds and cosmetics which require the manufacturers to
have special licenses to make.

I can buy vg for icing that I make and you can buy it wholesale gallon size, really the fda is not going to add things to vg thats a scare tactic.