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Good news is shipping from Texas is FAST.

Bad news is of the two C8's I tried it took me all of a few minutes to come to the conclusion that they are without a doubt the worst vaping device I ever tried. They don't leak. But then again, how can it if it doesn't wick? Just nasty burned, choke on em hits with 50/50 juice that's not particularly thick @ 3.4v.

Pulled one apart, trimmed the wicks short Phoenix style, and even with the plug removed it still wicks like a brick. Better, but still basically useless.

Is a shame because they really look nice, and have the appearance of a quality device. The ones I opened have tiny little openings for the wick. So much so that even with the plug removed there is not a bubble to be seen. Knowing how the Phoenix is put together, I probably can get these to work when I have some time to break out the tools.

No doubt, I have a couple of particularly bad ones. Off to go wash my mouth out with some wonderful Phoenix vape!
 

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Big Screen D,

Sorry to hear you are having issues... but I'd suggest you try it with a standard mix ratio instead... something in the 80 PG / 20 VG or perhaps a 70 PG / 30 VG ration .... not a thicker 50/50... you may find it works better then...

I'd also recommend you not be so condescending in your descriptions ... be honest for sure but in a more mature manner... remember they said...

•Actively posting on ECF in a civil manner.
Engaging, informative and helpful feedback.

This isn't really the place for overly exaggerated complaints... use objective criticism so that GV gets the info they need to make an informed decision from.
 

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I'm getting some dry hits as well... but not as many as I was getting on the v1 of the C8 as I mentioned earlier...

Right now I've got both of the newer C8V3's filled... both using 80P/20V juices, one a darker one and another lighter and both are being vaped at 3.6v....

The darker juice is getting more dry hits than the lighter colored juice. On the darker one, I probably need a primer puff about every 3+ vapes... on the lighter colored one I can go around 5+ vapes before I need a primer puff or two. Neither have been modded since I feel it is important to get a good feel for them as they are out of the box. I will mod them later to see if it helps with the dry hits I'm currently getting.

I'm just now reaching the 1/2 way point through a tank on both... On the darker juice, I'm starting to have a harder draw than I am with the lighter juice. I haven't noticed anything similar on a Rebuildable Stardust.... but I do know that the coils with my darker juice will clog much quicker than the lighter one will... so the change in draw isn't a big suprise but it was unexpected.

I mentioned earlier that with the darker juice I was getting a fuller/richer flavor than on the Stardust and this still holds true. Oddly enough on the lighter juice ( a RY4 btw ) the sweeter carmel flavor is less pronounced than on the Stardust. Since the flavor on the older v1 changed after a tankful... I should reserve any further comments on this issue, still I find it odd that one area is enhanced and another muted more... Time will tell after a tank or so is vaped through each.
 

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Good news is shipping from Texas is FAST.

Bad news is of the two C8's I tried it took me all of a few minutes to come to the conclusion that they are without a doubt the worst vaping device I ever tried. They don't leak. But then again, how can it if it doesn't wick? Just nasty burned, choke on em hits with 50/50 juice that's not particularly thick @ 3.4v.

Pulled one apart, trimmed the wicks short Phoenix style, and even with the plug removed it still wicks like a brick. Better, but still basically useless.

Is a shame because they really look nice, and have the appearance of a quality device. The ones I opened have tiny little openings for the wick. So much so that even with the plug removed there is not a bubble to be seen. Knowing how the Phoenix is put together, I probably can get these to work when I have some time to break out the tools.

No doubt, I have a couple of particularly bad ones. Off to go wash my mouth out with some wonderful Phoenix vape!

This is basically my experience. I've used 80/20, 70/30 and 50/50, light and dark. They're not much better than the scorpions, at least mine aren't. I've used every voltage level on the zongle. I don't think that this is up to GV's standards.
 

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Big Screen D,

Sorry to hear you are having issues... but I'd suggest you try it with a standard mix ratio instead... something in the 80 PG / 20 VG or perhaps a 70 PG / 30 VG ration .... not a thicker 50/50... you may find it works better then...

I'd also recommend you not be so condescending in your descriptions ... be honest for sure but in a more mature manner... remember they said...

•Actively posting on ECF in a civil manner.
Engaging, informative and helpful feedback.

This isn't really the place for overly exaggerated complaints... use objective criticism so that GV gets the info they need to make an informed decision from.

Your post Sir is condescending. Not mine.

Simply put, the two that I have tried are horrid. As I said, they surly must be a couple of particularly bad ones.

I am sure that Bad and Danno prefer an honest description, rather than an attempt at sugarcoating the nastiness that these delivered. And that is not an exaggeration.
 

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Hey everyone.
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Fantastic! Great to hear from you!
 

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Gentlemen - to put it in the most formal terms I can come up with: BE NICE! We love you both.

My posts about my experiences are not "sugar coated"... they are honest and done without exaggeration. Your points can be made without the theatrics you are currently using.

Your post Sir is condescending. Not mine.

Simply put, the two that I have tried are horrid. As I said, they surly must be a couple of particularly bad ones.

I am sure that Bad and Danno prefer an honest description, rather than an attempt at sugarcoating the nastiness that these delivered. And that is not an exaggeration.
 

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just filled my first C8V3. After I placed the order I pulled out my lone unused V2 and I've run a couple tankfuls through it to prepare for a comparison. I really had to fight the urge to fill this one with Hush, and in an effort to give the best possible comparison, I'm running the same 75-25 home brew tobacco. This is the first 20 minutes with the V3-out of the box-first look.

The draw is nice, not too tight, not too loose - on par with the V2.

Flavor is not quite as good as the V2, but better than most. ( I expect this to improve)

No leaks thus far.

I find that I have to employ fewer primer puffs with the V3. (I use the method of priming these where you close the intake holes with your finger and thumb and take a solid drag) With the V2, I take a primer puff every 3 or so drags with no side effects. With the V3, its a primer puff after about 6 drags, but the first few drags after the primer are very weak on vapor, and I get a large amount of gurgling. I read some reviews that talked about gurgling and I thought that that would be preferable to the more frequent primer puffs on the V2, but now I don't think so.

Given that this review is very early in terms of my V3 use, I expect my findings to change, but as for now they are that the V3 falls short on flavor and vapor, and the extreme variance in vapor production is quite an annoyance.

(hey Bad, you got any V2's left?)
 

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This is basically my experience. I've used 80/20, 70/30 and 50/50, light and dark. They're not much better than the scorpions, at least mine aren't. I've used every voltage level on the zongle. I don't think that this is up to GV's standards.

Yeah Bonnie, sure looks that way I'm sad to say. Honestly though, they can not all be this way. I wasn't getting dry hits, but rather the same flavor one smells when dry-burning gunk.

You know me, I'll find a way to make em work. Off to the rebuilding table they go.
 

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(hey Bad, you got any V2's left?)

I think you have to direct that at Danno now since the warehouse was moved to Texas... I do remember a post about asking for some in the comments field of an order, but that has been a while back now and haven't heard if they finally ran out or not...
 

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I think you have to direct that at Danno now since the warehouse was moved to Texas... I do remember a post about asking for some in the comments field of an order, but that has been a while back now and haven't heard if they finally ran out or not...

touche, my friend. This whole switcheroo hasn't kicked in yet.

(sorry, Danno. btw.......got any V2's left?)
 

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Your post Sir is condescending. Not mine.

Simply put, the two that I have tried are horrid. As I said, they surly must be a couple of particularly bad ones.

I am sure that Bad and Danno prefer an honest description, rather than an attempt at sugarcoating the nastiness that these delivered. And that is not an exaggeration.

doubt yours are two particularly bad ones judging from how other people are experiencing the same thing. I've used the C8 V1's constantly so they are pretty dirty now, but i think they did have a lighter draw than these new ones. I think i'll try to clean one of the old ones out so I can make a fair comparison.
 

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Yeah Bonnie, sure looks that way I'm sad to say. Honestly though, they can not all be this way. I wasn't getting dry hits, but rather the same flavor one smells when dry-burning gunk.

You know me, I'll find a way to make em work. Off to the rebuilding table they go.

You know I think you may be correct with the dry hits vs burnt taste. I actually still get some vapor, but the burnt taste is crazy. I bought some of the original ones GV sold for $10 each and followed along that thread. The biggest complaint IIRC was juice dumps, which I didn't experience until later on. They had good flavor IMHO, but had to pull the "primer" draws quite a lot. Well, I find on the V3 I am priming equal to or more than I actually can use it. Constant burnt taste and after priming it is good to go for may be 2 draws, then fire to ashes all over again.
In my book these are slightly above Scorpion levels due to build quality and serviceability, but fall very short of being a good item. Not even decent. I would not recommend Chris and Dan to sell these on the main page, may be someone in the Alpha program can mod them to work very well though.
I have 5 to play with, if I can get these to work better I will pass on the info!
 

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You know I think you may be correct with the dry hits vs burnt taste. I actually still get some vapor, but the burnt taste is crazy. I bought some of the original ones GV sold for $10 each and followed along that thread. The biggest complaint IIRC was juice dumps, which I didn't experience until later on. They had good flavor IMHO, but had to pull the "primer" draws quite a lot. Well, I find on the V3 I am priming equal to or more than I actually can use it. Constant burnt taste and after priming it is good to go for may be 2 draws, then fire to ashes all over again.
In my book these are slightly above Scorpion levels due to build quality and serviceability, but fall very short of being a good item. Not even decent. I would not recommend Chris and Dan to sell these on the main page, may be someone in the Alpha program can mod them to work very well though.
I have 5 to play with, if I can get these to work better I will pass on the info!

Try pulling out the plug and see if you still get it. I found on the V2 (that had this plug) it would get too much of a vacuum in it and if I pulled it out to release the vacuum it would vape better. See if you leave it out entirely what happens (but could dump on you).
 

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I have been using my c8 for a few days now. They look great and they haven't leaked one bit. I have been using 70/30 pg/vg. The first few hits are great then terrible dry hits and primer puffs only work for a couple of hits. If I sent it down and leave it alone for a half hour or so it vapes fine for around 4 or 5 hits. Not liking these too much
 

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You know I think you may be correct with the dry hits vs burnt taste. I actually still get some vapor, but the burnt taste is crazy. I bought some of the original ones GV sold for $10 each and followed along that thread. The biggest complaint IIRC was juice dumps, which I didn't experience until later on. They had good flavor IMHO, but had to pull the "primer" draws quite a lot. Well, I find on the V3 I am priming equal to or more than I actually can use it. Constant burnt taste and after priming it is good to go for may be 2 draws, then fire to ashes all over again.
In my book these are slightly above Scorpion levels due to build quality and serviceability, but fall very short of being a good item. Not even decent. I would not recommend Chris and Dan to sell these on the main page, may be someone in the Alpha program can mod them to work very well though.
I have 5 to play with, if I can get these to work better I will pass on the info!

What voltage are you using?
Also, You could try covering both air holes & blowing into the mouthpiece to equalize pressure instead of popping the plug out.
 
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