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  1. Trapper Shrek

    Trapper Shrek Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 21, 2012
    NW Wisconsin
    This is a piggyback thread to this one here....
    Getting back into vaping

    So a little info on what I am trying to achieve.
    I would be doing MTL looking for good throat hit and good vape cloud.
    I used to run 18mg nic in 50/50 or 70/30
    Want removable batteries
    Not a huge device
    I am outside a lot. Usually working in the yard, garden or out fishing on shore or in my boat.
    Need something that is fairly durable.

    Here is a list of kits I am thinking about. Trying to keep it around $40 to $70. Upgrade to the Innokin Zenith MTL tank in the future. Please rate them to aid me in narrowing down what I should get. I dont want to buy something that will be regretted.

    Wismec Predator 228 Starter Kit
    Innokin Proton with Scion 2 Starter Kit
    SMOKTech H-Priv 2 Starter Kit
    SMOKTech MAG Starter Kit
    GeekVape Aegis Legend Starter Kit
    Wismec Reuleaux RX GEN3 Dual Starter Kit

    Here are what I have narrowed it down for just mods not in a kit
    GeekVape Aegis TC Box Mod
    Wismec Sinuous P80 Mod Only

    Also if you have any recommendations for good tanks besides the Zenith, I am all ears. I need something that is not prone to leaking and is easy to fill. 2 to 4ml
     
  2. dom qp

    dom qp Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Almost every mod you listed is overkill for a MTL vape. The exception is the Aegis, since you're outside a lot.

    I'd look for a single 18650 mod, doesn't need to be that powerful. Buy the tank separate.

    Because you need something durable, i'd keep away from anything that looks like a power tool (i.e. that looks like a dewalt power tool).

    Pico line fits in well here. Aegis, albeit big. UWELL Nunchaku would actually be a real good fit, but not sure if the zenith sits flush on it (don't own either).

    Edit: I looked around. In your price range I really think a PICO would fit. Aegis if you want super durability.
     
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  3. Trapper Shrek

    Trapper Shrek Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 21, 2012
    NW Wisconsin
    I looked at the Eleaf iStick Pico 75W TC Body Only but it will not fit the Zenith tank.
     
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  4. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    IF you go for the Aegis, make sure you get the Legend and not the original. The original had battery vent hole that (on the off chance batteries ever vented while vaping) directed battery venting gasses directly at your face. The new one has them pointed downward away from your face. Granted in a regulated mod battery venting shouldn't happen under most circumstances, but it can still happen, especially if battery wrappers get damaged, and IF it does happen, you don't what those gasses anywhere near your face.

    I cannot speak to the tank that comes in that "kit".
     
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  5. dom qp

    dom qp Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    You sure? I don't MTL or use a pico, but the pico 25 is 25mm and the zenith is 23mm.

    Hopefully someone who has both can confirm - @stols001 ?
     
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  6. Rangertrix

    Rangertrix Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 5, 2013
    Collinsville, OK
    The pico 21700 we recommended in your other thread will and it was under $30 for whole kit from a US shipper.
     
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  7. Rangertrix

    Rangertrix Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 5, 2013
    Collinsville, OK
    It won't fit the original Pico, it's 22mm max. It will fit on Pico 21700 and Pico 25.
     
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  8. Trapper Shrek

    Trapper Shrek Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 21, 2012
    NW Wisconsin
    Would it be better to get a 2 battery over a single? I just dont want to order a single batter and then want a dual in a month
     
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  9. Trapper Shrek

    Trapper Shrek Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 21, 2012
    NW Wisconsin
    Thanks for that by the way. What is the difference between the 25 and the 21700? Just the battery?
     
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  10. DeloresRose

    DeloresRose Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 25, 2014
    toledo ohio
    Singles hold up well for mtl. If it were me, I’d rather have two singles than one double.

    I like a back up. And these are inexpensive enough to do that with, and not be too bummed if you break one.
     
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  11. Rangertrix

    Rangertrix Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 5, 2013
    Collinsville, OK
    21700 is slightly larger but can use a 21700, 20700, or 18650 batteries. 21700 battery should last you 1 1/2 to 2 days with tanks and vaping style you're describing. I vape that way and I get about 2 days and I vape a LOT!
     
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  12. Rangertrix

    Rangertrix Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 5, 2013
    Collinsville, OK
    The Pico series have also proven to be tough little workhorses.
     
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  13. Rangertrix

    Rangertrix Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 5, 2013
    Collinsville, OK
    I get more vape time out of my single 21700 than I do my dual 18650's.
     
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  14. Letitia

    Letitia Citrus Junkie ECF Veteran

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    Apr 2, 2017
    West Frankfort, IL
    Pico 25 and 2x700 can accommodate up to 25mm tanks. So the Zenith would fit on either. The 2x700 will give longer battery life and serve you better imo.
     
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  15. Vapemesilly

    Vapemesilly Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2017
    Nevada
    I have two MTL devices sitting on single battery mods and the batteries last a good while. One is a Pico and you can't go wrong with the Pico.
     
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  16. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    I'm a huge fan of the original Uwell Crown. Easy top fill. Choice of four different coil resistances, each with their own suggested wattage range. For you, I suggest the 1.2 ohm coils. Wide range of air control, MTL to DTL. I have three standard size (4ml) and two mini's (2ml), none have ever leaked on me. My review is here: Tanks & RDA's Ratings & Explanations

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  17. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I want to say the Zenith is 24 mm but I could be wrong, it's possible it's a 23.5 mm diameter, either way it won't fit a regular pico but pico 25 ,yes.

    Anna
     
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  18. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    Ridgeway, Ohio
    I get more vape time with my single 18650 battery DNA mod than I do with my dual 18650 battery mod (not DNA) or three 18650 battery mod (non DNA). Same batteries, same age, same vendor source. There are no absolutes concerning battery time unless you take into account the battery efficiency usage of the regulating chip of the mod, the different specifications of batteries, the wattage settings you use, etc.
     
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  19. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    Single vs dual battery, especially for mtl use, really comes down to how big your pockets are. If you want something small then a Pico 25 is more than sufficient and you should get a solid day from a single battery. So long as you're vaping low wattage mtl, a dual just buys you more runtime if that matters to you.

    If you are looking specifically for a robust drop it in the fertilizer safe kind of mod then the Aegis is an excellent selection. But it is bulky compared to other choices.

    Best way to settle the choice is to simply buy both. If you just buy one now, you'll just end up buying the other at some point anyway. The vape rule of have backups of backups justify almost any purchase. ;)
     
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  20. Trapper Shrek

    Trapper Shrek Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 21, 2012
    NW Wisconsin
    I am going to go with the Pico 21700 for now and probably the Aegis in a few weeks as a backup. Thank you everyone for all the help. Now to figure out all the new fancy juices. LOL
     
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